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[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

I've never seen a case where the Reapers made up an imposter wholesale from scratch. They're more likely to just turn the original against you. I find this imposter theory to be a little unbelievable.

Remember that the VS is not doing this voluntarily. They are made to do it through indoctrination which keeps them unaware of their true selves and allegiances.

Impostor is not the most fortunate description. It's more like a body snatcher. 

Then you might mean mole

[BatmanTurian]

KneeTheCap wrote...

I know you must have talked about this all what there is to talk about, but as this thread is thousands of pages long, I couldn't find it. So don't tar & feather me.

I am not sure if they have either patched this out, or changed this, but why is the corpse in the citadel, who's helmet gets removed, Coats? I'm sure this can be brushed off as a reused asset, but wouldn't it make more sense to reuse a random soldier from a random scene? Why him specifically? In that flycam video, it does seem like Coats. Or do I need better glasses?

And like I said, sorry if this has been changed, it's been a while since I last played this game...

Edit. ermh, in the citadel that is. The corpse. There. Yes.

It's coates, and don't worry. We don't tar and feather newcomers. We welcome them eagerly.

[masster blaster]

Restrider wrote...

byne wrote...

Restrider wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay so what I still find funny is that Joker is told to leave Shepard behind right. If you look at ME2 ending, then I doubt Joker would just leave Shepard for dead, heck he went outside the Normandy and gave Shepard covering firer, and saved Shepard from an explosin that was very close to blowing up the Normandy..Yet this Joker at the end does not go in and save Shepard. I mean come on how hard could it be right. Normandy made that small pick up, and got out with in a flash. Well if you hurry that goodbye.

Even in a literal POV, does anybody actually know where exactly Shepard is?
They only know that he is somewhere on the Citadel, which has the Presidium Ring and five Wards of 45 km length...

When looking for Shepard, one generally just goes to the center of the largest explosion. Shep is usually there.

I'd argue that it would be too late after the (big) explosion.
Sure it would be technically possible to have a hot pick-up after shooting the tube before the whole Crucible goes boom. But that would need perfect timing and the Normandy crew would need the exact location of Shepard. Both is not the case.
And after the explosion you should only be able to collect Shepard's ashes.
Edit: Pinnacle of this page. That's why I promote IT-Flavour on my favourite spot of pages.

Ya ad I doubt Shepard is even going to call everyone and say " Hey can you find this palce, that no organics has ever found except me.

Or crap okay I know this is literal thinking, but Catalyst says Shepard is the first organics, but not Synthetics to ever be where Shepard is now. That also goes for Synthesis/ indoctrinated agents.

Or the cycle that did create the crucible did pick an end which was a Synthetic, but um what ending did it pick/ Did it pick Destroy( no Reapers are still around) Did it pick Synthesis possible, but something could have gone wrong. Control most likely.

[paxxton]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

I've never seen a case where the Reapers made up an imposter wholesale from scratch. They're more likely to just turn the original against you. I find this imposter theory to be a little unbelievable.

Remember that the VS is not doing this voluntarily. They are made to do it through indoctrination which keeps them unaware of their true selves and allegiances.

Impostor is not the most fortunate description. It's more like a body snatcher. 

Then you might mean mole

Yes, that too. Waits until the last minute to strike from within, usually as a solution of last resort for the enemy.

Modifié par paxxton, 15 décembre 2012 - 10:56 .

[masster blaster]

Also what is the point when the child tells Shepard
Child: Even you are partly Synthetic.

Um so are you saying if I pick Destroy Shepard will die?

[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

Also what is the point when the child tells Shepard
Child: Even you are partly Synthetic.

Um so are you saying if I pick Destroy Shepard will die?

That. Or part of him.

[CmdrShep80]

Just want to be sure it was noticed

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Sound familiar? I was reading up on what is "Dark Souls" due to the petition to bring DS2 to the Wii U.

Dark Souls has a minimalistic plot. Events and their significance are often implicit and left to player interpretation rather than fully shown or explained. Much of the story and lore of the world is given to the player through dialogue from characters within the world, item descriptions, or the scarce cutscenes. It is up to the player to put the pieces together.

Best part?

Kaathe implies that the prophecy of the Chosen Undead espoused by Frampt is a lie crafted by the gods to trick the player into sacrificing himself in order to prolong the tyranny of the old order of deities; indeed, Kaathe implies that the deity status of Gwyn et al. is only granted to them by the primordial Flame so long as it is kindled. The player must come to his own conclusion regarding whether Frampt or Kaathe is telling the truth.

Next best part:

the ending. The player may choose to either sacrifice himself in order to re-kindle the Flame and prolong the rule of the existing order of deities or to let the Flame wither and die, ushering in the Age of Dark (or of Humanity as Kaathe would suggest), where the player character will become the "Lord of Dark."

Yet no one complained like they did in ME3

[Restrider]

masster blaster wrote...

Also what is the point when the child tells Shepard
Child: Even you are partly Synthetic.

Um so are you saying if I pick Destroy Shepard will die?

I assumed exactly that...

[masster blaster]

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Also what is the point when the child tells Shepard
Child: Even you are partly Synthetic.

Um so are you saying if I pick Destroy Shepard will die?

That. Or part of him.

Oh what if Shepard's already Indoctrinated mind is Destroyed, and what if it takes EDI's Death, The Geth's death, and seeing the galaxy rebuilding bring Shepard back to life. However if Anderson dies, then it lowers Shepard's moral into regaining his/her strength.

[masster blaster]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Just want to be sure it was noticed

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Sound familiar? I was reading up on what is "Dark Souls" due to the petition to bring DS2 to the Wii U.

Dark Souls has a minimalistic plot. Events and their significance are often implicit and left to player interpretation rather than fully shown or explained. Much of the story and lore of the world is given to the player through dialogue from characters within the world, item descriptions, or the scarce cutscenes. It is up to the player to put the pieces together.

Best part?

Kaathe implies that the prophecy of the Chosen Undead espoused by Frampt is a lie crafted by the gods to trick the player into sacrificing himself in order to prolong the tyranny of the old order of deities; indeed, Kaathe implies that the deity status of Gwyn et al. is only granted to them by the primordial Flame so long as it is kindled. The player must come to his own conclusion regarding whether Frampt or Kaathe is telling the truth.

Next best part:

the ending. The player may choose to either sacrifice himself in order to re-kindle the Flame and prolong the rule of the existing order of deities or to let the Flame wither and die, ushering in the Age of Dark (or of Humanity as Kaathe would suggest), where the player character will become the "Lord of Dark."

Yet no one complained like they did in ME3

I read it, but I wanted to play dark souls first before I read anything about it.

[The_Sloth25]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Not a chance. I don't think the beam is working in literal, but even if it was it apparently shoots people out in different random loactions according to Anderson. Following the random entrance, they'd have to go up the kid's elevator which only he can use, and he's dead. Unless Shepard has some sort of tranponder still working, which wouldn't make sense because someone should have been there to help already.

Or, maybe the fleets could just look at the bottom of the citadel, but I doubt that would happen, since apparently no one has in the last 50000 years to see what the hell the decision chamber is...

Well the beam was supposed to get bodies up there so maybe it's not random where you go but just where there's the most room or something.

[BansheeOwnage]

KneeTheCap wrote...

I know you must have talked about this all what there is to talk about, but as this thread is thousands of pages long, I couldn't find it. So don't tar & feather me.

I am not sure if they have either patched this out, or changed this, but why is the corpse in the citadel, who's helmet gets removed, Coats? I'm sure this can be brushed off as a reused asset, but wouldn't it make more sense to reuse a random soldier from a random scene? Why him specifically? In that flycam video, it does seem like Coats. Or do I need better glasses?

And like I said, sorry if this has been changed, it's been a while since I last played this game...

Edit. ermh, in the citadel that is. The corpse. There. Yes.

Welcome back. Yes, that is Coats for sure and we haven't talked about him in a while. You can even tell if you look carefully without flycam (you can see the top of his hair and forehead). Why would they use him? Hopefully, to make the scene make less sense at face value. They actually didn't need a head at all; it would have been easier to take the helmet off a headless corpse. So it is definitely strange.

[BansheeOwnage]

The_Sloth25 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Not a chance. I don't think the beam is working in literal, but even if it was it apparently shoots people out in different random loactions according to Anderson. Following the random entrance, they'd have to go up the kid's elevator which only he can use, and he's dead. Unless Shepard has some sort of tranponder still working, which wouldn't make sense because someone should have been there to help already.

Or, maybe the fleets could just look at the bottom of the citadel, but I doubt that would happen, since apparently no one has in the last 50000 years to see what the hell the decision chamber is...

Well the beam was supposed to get bodies up there so maybe it's not random where you go but just where there's the most room or something.

Possible, but after a while logic says (assuming there are 2 rooms) that it would simply teleport people to alternating rooms. Because there was more than enough room for more bodies in the one Shepard came out of.

Edit: It doesn't matter anyway though, because they would still need to get up the elevator... which they don't even know exists.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 15 décembre 2012 - 11:07 .

[401 Kill]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Possible, but after a while logic says (assuming there are 2 rooms) that it would simply teleport people to alternating rooms. Because there was more than enough room for more bodies in the one Shepard came out of.

Edit: It doesn't matter anyway though, because they would still need to get up the elevator... which they don't even know exists.

You would think they would know every in an out of the station where the Galactic government is located. 

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Possible, but after a while logic says (assuming there are 2 rooms) that it would simply teleport people to alternating rooms. Because there was more than enough room for more bodies in the one Shepard came out of.

Edit: It doesn't matter anyway though, because they would still need to get up the elevator... which they don't even know exists.

You would think they would know every in an out of the station where the Galactic government is located. 

You'd think, but the literal version begs to differ. Apparently, not even the reapers know about it, including Sovereign. They made it.

Edit: "it" referring to all of the endgame citadel stuff including the Guardian and his elevator.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 15 décembre 2012 - 11:13 .

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Possible, but after a while logic says (assuming there are 2 rooms) that it would simply teleport people to alternating rooms. Because there was more than enough room for more bodies in the one Shepard came out of.

Edit: It doesn't matter anyway though, because they would still need to get up the elevator... which they don't even know exists.

You would think they would know every in an out of the station where the Galactic government is located. 

You'd think, but the literal version begs to differ. Apparently, not even the reapers know about it, including Sovereign. They made it.

Whether literal or IT, the current cycle doesnt know **** about the Keeper tunnels. Never even bothered to send a drone in and map them. You'd think it'd be important to know about that kind of stuff.

[401 Kill]

Ah, I love how the Halo 4 commercials are still on!

[lex0r11]

The keepers will be behind all this. They always had this look..

Especially that last one before you see VentBoy™.

"Soon, Shepard.."

Modifié par lex0r11, 15 décembre 2012 - 11:18 .

[401 Kill]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Possible, but after a while logic says (assuming there are 2 rooms) that it would simply teleport people to alternating rooms. Because there was more than enough room for more bodies in the one Shepard came out of.

Edit: It doesn't matter anyway though, because they would still need to get up the elevator... which they don't even know exists.

You would think they would know every in an out of the station where the Galactic government is located. 

You'd think, but the literal version begs to differ. Apparently, not even the reapers know about it, including Sovereign. They made it.
Edit: "it" referring to all of the endgame citadel stuff including the Guardian and his elevator.

Yeah, the AI makes the Reapers strategy, including Sovereign in ME irrelevant. The keepers are useless as well, if the "leader" of the Reapers resides within the Citadel, it could just open the relay!

[byne]

lex0r11 wrote...

The keepers will be behind all this. They always had this look..

Especially that last one before you see VentBoy™.

"Soon, Shepard.."

Plus, theres that one keeper at the docking bay, who always gets in your way when you try to board the Normandy.

He's probably the leader.

[Humakt83]

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Modifié par Humakt83, 15 décembre 2012 - 11:20 .

[paxxton]

lex0r11 wrote...

The keepers will be behind all this. They always had this look..

Especially that last one before you see VentBoy™.

"Soon, Shepard.."

No motivational?

[401 Kill]

byne wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

The keepers will be behind all this. They always had this look..

Especially that last one before you see VentBoy™.

"Soon, Shepard.."

Plus, theres that one keeper at the docking bay, who always gets in your way when you try to board the Normandy.

He's probably the leader.

I got trapped in a corner by that keeper once and couldn't move...

[masster blaster]

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Possible, but after a while logic says (assuming there are 2 rooms) that it would simply teleport people to alternating rooms. Because there was more than enough room for more bodies in the one Shepard came out of.

Edit: It doesn't matter anyway though, because they would still need to get up the elevator... which they don't even know exists.

You would think they would know every in an out of the station where the Galactic government is located. 

You'd think, but the literal version begs to differ. Apparently, not even the reapers know about it, including Sovereign. They made it.
Edit: "it" referring to all of the endgame citadel stuff including the Guardian and his elevator.

Yeah, the AI makes the Reapers strategy, including Sovereign in ME irrelevant. The keepers are useless as well, if the "leader" of the Reapers resides within the Citadel, it could just open the relay!

Or turn off all force fields inside the Citadle, and let the organics die. Or use the Citadle weapons against the organics.

[masster blaster]

401 Kill wrote...

byne wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

The keepers will be behind all this. They always had this look..

Especially that last one before you see VentBoy™.

"Soon, Shepard.."

Plus, theres that one keeper at the docking bay, who always gets in your way when you try to board the Normandy.

He's probably the leader.

I got trapped in a corner by that keeper once and couldn't move...

The keepers can't be scanned. it's not allowed/ legal. wonder why/