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[dorktainian]

clevernoobs docu points out that when coates issues his 'retreat' order it counters andersons 'all in' order. the interesting thing here is when coates issues his 'retreat' order harbinger retreats.

[Arian Dynas]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

The problem I have with utopianism is that it implies an end to all innovation and growth, on both an individual and evolutionary scale.  Life should always be about improving oneself, I believe.  And as long as people have the desire to improve, there will be no utopia.  That's how things should be, I think

In a way, that's also the story in ME: it's a battle of enlightment philosophies.

The Reapers use a very advanced, but static position and utilize raw control to keep from being outdone.

On the other hand you have the varying cycles and races, which advance rapidly through an unseen order in the chaos, striving but becoming stronger out of necessity. Inevitably all those different minds competing and working together resulted in a serious challenge for a far older and more advanced community.

As it turns out, the Reapers are very wrong about evolution: there is no apex, it's cyclic and relative. That is their vulnerability.

Seconded. The very idea of a "eutopia" is one I simply do not buy.

[BleedingUranium]

Krimzie wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

do you know what would be awesome? if when shepard is lying there in the rubble and breaks free of indoctrination visions of members of the dead races from previous cycles past came to him and had a conversation with him, urging him to continue the fight for them....for the lost. strengthen his resolve.

I had a similar idea to that, Shepard could mental battle all of the Reapers, as in, battle their avatars, which each look like the conciousness they were made from. By killing their mind, Shepard would kill them. It'd be awesome and a cool way to defeat them.

There's probably a staging area for this, too. Daaaark spaaaace!  Or, you know, in Shepard's mind in a different plane of reality. Which could exist indark space. You... you never know...


Edit: Oooo, l likes it on top -- wait, wut.
 

Yeah, it could be done from the EvilCitadel, and Shepard's now had experience mind-battling a Reaper.

Oh, really?

dorktainian wrote...

clevernoobs docu points out that when coates issues his 'retreat' order it counters andersons 'all in' order. the interesting thing here is when coates issues his 'retreat' order harbinger retreats.

And Coats himself said earlier in the mission "You heard the Admiral, no retreat!"

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:17 .

[Auralius Carolus]

tangythang wrote...

Just when I had time to visit this thread again...
How is mass effect encourage school shooting, those that condemn doesn't even took their time to even google it first. Does people weren't even concerned of a 20 years old having access to a GUN?

People generally don't do their homework; they like to be spoonfed and they like cleanly wrapped answers.

For instance, games are blamed for desensitizing young minds, but yet the only analytical evidence, in regards to aggression, suggests that they do not desensitize, but have the potential to activate excess chemicals in the body, leading to a more relaxed state in younger individuals.

As to guns, it is not at all uncommon in America for youth and young adults to have access to firearms; most are supervised and highly trained, to the point that marksmanship is a safer activity that most contact sports. Interestingly, highly regulated areas have, statistically, equal or greater violent crime rates than looser areas, even on a nation-to-nation basis.

Even on the psychological level, most people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder, (Sociopaths), never have a problem with violent behavior, but yet anyone who's into crime dramas "knows" how dangerous they are.

The short of it? This crap is a whole lot more complicated than most media figures and politicians would like you to think.

Modifié par Auralius Carolus, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:27 .

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Byne wrote...

Yknow, for things that claim to be all about preserving organic life, the Reapers really dont try very hard.

An example from the planet Vana:

Vana description...

A large rock planet, Vana is covered in prodigious amounts of dry ice, leaving only thin traces of gas for its atmosphere. Uranium deposits drew batarian miners to Vana long ago, and when that was exhausted, they moved on to its magnesium. The Reapers have exterminated the colony here, punching holes in the domed cities and leaving its occupants to asphyxiate.

I like how apparently the Reapers didnt even turn them into Cannibals, they just poked holes in their city and left, presumably laughing evilly.

... Yeah, umm... that was me, sorry.

[Auralius Carolus]

... Cool Shepards don't walk into explosions; they turn around and walk away...

[Lokanaiya]

Auralius Carolus wrote...
For instance, games are blamed for desensitizing young minds, but yet the only analytical evidence, in regards to aggression, suggests that they do not desensitize, but have the potential to activate excess chemicals in the body, leading to a more relaxed state in younger individuals.

Do you know what study this is from?

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Byne wrote...

Yknow, for things that claim to be all about preserving organic life, the Reapers really dont try very hard.

An example from the planet Vana:

Vana description...

A large rock planet, Vana is covered in prodigious amounts of dry ice, leaving only thin traces of gas for its atmosphere. Uranium deposits drew batarian miners to Vana long ago, and when that was exhausted, they moved on to its magnesium. The Reapers have exterminated the colony here, punching holes in the domed cities and leaving its occupants to asphyxiate.

I like how apparently the Reapers didnt even turn them into Cannibals, they just poked holes in their city and left, presumably laughing evilly.

... Yeah, umm... that was me, sorry.

What?

[His Name was HYR!!]

 Hi. I'm trynna get some Destroyer votes.

There's no active Destroy support thread, but there's this thread, so GO GO GO -- HOLD THE LINE -- ENEMIES EVERYWHERE!!!

http://social.biowar...02/polls/42341/

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Byne wrote...

Yknow, for things that claim to be all about preserving organic life, the Reapers really dont try very hard.

An example from the planet Vana:

Vana description...

A large rock planet, Vana is covered in prodigious amounts of dry ice, leaving only thin traces of gas for its atmosphere. Uranium deposits drew batarian miners to Vana long ago, and when that was exhausted, they moved on to its magnesium. The Reapers have exterminated the colony here, punching holes in the domed cities and leaving its occupants to asphyxiate.

I like how apparently the Reapers didnt even turn them into Cannibals, they just poked holes in their city and left, presumably laughing evilly.

... Yeah, umm... that was me, sorry.

What?

No, I mean the holes.  That was me.  I killed the batarians.  It looked like fun.

And it was.

[spotlessvoid]

The fact that these shooters invariably are loaded up on psychotropic medication, which admittedly can exacerbate violent tendencies and eventually trigger psychotic breaks, seems to be irrelevant to our media. Regardless, Mass Effect has never been a game that rewards wanton death and destruction, so it's not even a logical candidate as scapegoat.

[BleedingUranium]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 Hi. I'm trynna get some Destroyer votes.

There's no active Destroy support thread, but there's this thread, so GO GO GO -- HOLD THE LINE -- ENEMIES EVERYWHERE!!!

http://social.biowar...02/polls/42341/

The results are interesting, change to save of not change and they die, but not so much the other two.

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Byne wrote...

Yknow, for things that claim to be all about preserving organic life, the Reapers really dont try very hard.

An example from the planet Vana:

Vana description...

A large rock planet, Vana is covered in prodigious amounts of dry ice, leaving only thin traces of gas for its atmosphere. Uranium deposits drew batarian miners to Vana long ago, and when that was exhausted, they moved on to its magnesium. The Reapers have exterminated the colony here, punching holes in the domed cities and leaving its occupants to asphyxiate.

I like how apparently the Reapers didnt even turn them into Cannibals, they just poked holes in their city and left, presumably laughing evilly.

... Yeah, umm... that was me, sorry.

What?

No, I mean the holes.  That was me.  I killed the batarians.  It looked like fun.

And it was.

Oh

Also, I now know how to link to specific posts

[BleedingUranium]

spotlessvoid wrote...

The fact that these shooters invariably are loaded up on psychotropic medication, which admittedly can exacerbate violent tendencies and eventually trigger psychotic breaks, seems to be irrelevant to our media. Regardless, Mass Effect has never been a game that rewards wanton death and destruction, so it's not even a logical candidate as scapegoat.

For a shooter, it's pretty much as far away from that a you can get.

Triple post

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:51 .

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

The fact that these shooters invariably are loaded up on psychotropic medication, which admittedly can exacerbate violent tendencies and eventually trigger psychotic breaks, seems to be irrelevant to our media. Regardless, Mass Effect has never been a game that rewards wanton death and destruction, so it's not even a logical candidate as scapegoat.

For a shooter, it's pretty much as far away from that a you can get.

Triple post

I wanna know what happens when these idiots find out about the Grissom Academy mission.  I bet it'll be hilarious.

[spotlessvoid]

Right, even "bad" Shepard is still the galactic hero.

[Lokanaiya]

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

The fact that these shooters invariably are loaded up on psychotropic medication, which admittedly can exacerbate violent tendencies and eventually trigger psychotic breaks, seems to be irrelevant to our media. Regardless, Mass Effect has never been a game that rewards wanton death and destruction, so it's not even a logical candidate as scapegoat.

For a shooter, it's pretty much as far away from that a you can get.

Triple post

I wanna know what happens when these idiots find out about the Grissom Academy mission.  I bet it'll be hilarious.

Chances are they will either never will or will (intentionally?) get it wrong and say that the point of the mission is to kidnap the kidds. <_<

[Rifneno]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

The fact that these shooters invariably are loaded up on psychotropic medication, which admittedly can exacerbate violent tendencies and eventually trigger psychotic breaks, seems to be irrelevant to our media. Regardless, Mass Effect has never been a game that rewards wanton death and destruction, so it's not even a logical candidate as scapegoat.

For a shooter, it's pretty much as far away from that a you can get.

Triple post

I wanna know what happens when these idiots find out about the Grissom Academy mission.  I bet it'll be hilarious.

Chances are they will either never will or will (intentionally?) get it wrong and say that the point of the mission is to kidnap the kidds. <_<

Of course.  These are the same dip****s who said ME1 was a "rape simulator".  Right before reminding us not to trust the Liberal Media™.

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

Of course.  These are the same dip****s who said ME1 was a "rape simulator".  Right before reminding us not to trust the Liberal Media™.

I still want to play whatever version of Mass Effect Fox had. The one that let me choose which women and how many women I wanted to have sex with. It sounded neat.

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Of course.  These are the same dip****s who said ME1 was a "rape simulator".  Right before reminding us not to trust the Liberal Media™.

I still want to play whatever version of Mass Effect Fox had. The one that let me choose which women and how many women I wanted to have sex with. It sounded neat.

"So that's why they added Thessia..."

[Rifneno]

"Popular Board Topics

What was first Playstation game were you were sexually attracted to a character?
PlayStation 3"

Gamefaqs. Always there to remind you that BSN is sane by comparison.

.... So anyway. I was thinking. London. Anderson was born there, you know. But how we kept wondering WHY London. We never really had an answer on why the Reapers were so focused on it. Then it hit me, and it was so simple I wanted to slap myself for not realizing it instantly. It didn't have to be London, they just needed a big name metropolis and they needed it as devastated and hopeless as it could possibly be. Why? One more thing to break down Shepard's will. Remember how the crew, especially James, comments about they were ready to die here on Earth if they had to, but to see it like this...? Seeing just how desperate and hopeless things were was having a major psychological effect. It's just one more thing hammering away at Shepard's incredible but still finite amount of willpower.

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

"Popular Board Topics

What was first Playstation game were you were sexually attracted to a character?
PlayStation 3"

Gamefaqs. Always there to remind you that BSN is sane by comparison.

That's not that bad. Created art, whether it be games, CGI movies, or paintings, etc can all look just like people. If it's because they don't exist in reality, then you should also complain about being attracted to celebrities, models, and the like, because it's effectively no different.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 16 décembre 2012 - 07:27 .

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

"Popular Board Topics

What was first Playstation game were you were sexually attracted to a character?
PlayStation 3"

Gamefaqs. Always there to remind you that BSN is sane by comparison.

That's not that bad. Created art, whether it be games, CGI movies, or paintings, etc can all look just like people. If it's because they don't exist in reality, then you should also complain about being attracted to celebrities, models, and the like, because it's effectively no different.

I'm saying what's going on that thread cannot possibly rate anything less than an 8 on the creepy meter.  There is no way that conversation could go well.

[dorktainian]

Rifneno wrote...

"Popular Board Topics

What was first Playstation game were you were sexually attracted to a character?
PlayStation 3"

Gamefaqs. Always there to remind you that BSN is sane by comparison.

.... So anyway. I was thinking. London. Anderson was born there, you know. But how we kept wondering WHY London. We never really had an answer on why the Reapers were so focused on it. Then it hit me, and it was so simple I wanted to slap myself for not realizing it instantly. It didn't have to be London, they just needed a big name metropolis and they needed it as devastated and hopeless as it could possibly be. Why? One more thing to break down Shepard's will. Remember how the crew, especially James, comments about they were ready to die here on Earth if they had to, but to see it like this...? Seeing just how desperate and hopeless things were was having a major psychological effect. It's just one more thing hammering away at Shepard's incredible but still finite amount of willpower.

they could have just left london as it is.....god what a s...thole.


**edit** yay top gain

Modifié par dorktainian, 16 décembre 2012 - 07:34 .

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

"Popular Board Topics

What was first Playstation game were you were sexually attracted to a character?
PlayStation 3"

Gamefaqs. Always there to remind you that BSN is sane by comparison.

That's not that bad. Created art, whether it be games, CGI movies, or paintings, etc can all look just like people. If it's because they don't exist in reality, then you should also complain about being attracted to celebrities, models, and the like, because it's effectively no different.

I'm saying what's going on that thread cannot possibly rate anything less than an 8 on the creepy meter.  There is no way that conversation could go well.

That, you're probably right about