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[masster blaster]

Don't answer anything any to Heritac, if you are going to say IT this, or bad stuff about him okay.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

AxStapleton wrote...

plfranke wrote...

guys let masster be. he's obviously never going to stop doing the multiple posts so we might as well learn to live with it. on another note I would like it if the cerberus base was at least halfway a dream as kai leng's death seemed rushed. they should have shown a fight scene after you were done with the combat not just randomly cut to him laying on the ground.

Kai Leng is the most rushed character in the game. The only thing we gather as a player is that he is some kind of Cerberus elite "Anti-Shepard" and the only reason he ends up not looking like a usual thug is that he gets saved by mind-numbingly bad scenes. We see him on the Citadel, survives thanks to plot armor> then on Thessia, survives thanks to plot armor> gets a cameo in Sanctuary, could end up killing Miranda (or not if Miranda knows). I was glad when he died so he could stop poluting the story.

Im sorry but how were his survivals on the Citadel and Thessia plot armor´ish?

On the Citadel we simply stop his Elevator and he retreats through the keeper tunnels, tunnels which have been established as far back as ME2 to be maze like and unmapped.

On Thessia Shepard is climbing up as he makes his escape...

Sorry, but I dont really see the plot armor in those two scenes.

Sure he was not a good character, buti simply saw him as our battling face of Cerberus as they coukdnt exactly have TIM come running on his own.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Sweet firefight pack is up - too bad I can't test out the new guns, stupid work making me come in and...make...money.

Have fun guys!

[RavenEyry]

Kai does have plot armour, but so did Saren. I don't see why people get so pent up about it.

Also I think he's well written. It seems to me that he was supposed to think he was better than he really was and be all smug about it. We weren't supposed to like him.

[Home run MF]

I think they're talking about the cutscene plot armor, having 2 or 3 fights with him winning when you are beating his ass and then getting interrupted by a cutscene feels cheap.

[byne]

Home run MF wrote...

I think they're talking about the cutscene plot armor, having 2 or 3 fights with him winning when you are beating his ass and then getting interrupted by a cutscene feels cheap.

Same thing happened when you fought Saren on Virmire, though.

[GethPrimeMKII]

I don't see why people hate Kai Leng so much.

[Big_Boss9]

Kai Leng is a horrendous character who was completely mishandled in introduction and execution. Bioware isn't infallible. It happens.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

byne wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

I think they're talking about the cutscene plot armor, having 2 or 3 fights with him winning when you are beating his ass and then getting interrupted by a cutscene feels cheap.

Same thing happened when you fought Saren on Virmire, though.

Yeah and I dont really count the Citadel as "battling" Kai Leng, more like chasing if anything. Thessia i guess you are right, but considering he had to get covering fire from a gunship to win I dont really have a problem. When it came down to a straight fight he was defeated...the end. 

And yeah we were never supposed to like him the way i see it or even care much for him.

[Home run MF]

byne wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

I think they're talking about the cutscene plot armor, having 2 or 3 fights with him winning when you are beating his ass and then getting interrupted by a cutscene feels cheap.

Same thing happened when you fought Saren on Virmire, though.

Saren had a build up, a story that went in crescendo until the end of the game.
Kai Leng feels like a fool with a win button.

Off topic: They nerfed the Piranha 

[byne]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

byne wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

I think they're talking about the cutscene plot armor, having 2 or 3 fights with him winning when you are beating his ass and then getting interrupted by a cutscene feels cheap.

Same thing happened when you fought Saren on Virmire, though.

Yeah and I dont really count the Citadel as "battling" Kai Leng, more like chasing if anything. Thessia i guess you are right, but considering he had to get covering fire from a gunship to win I dont really have a problem. When it came down to a straight fight he was defeated...the end. 

And yeah we were never supposed to like him the way i see it or even care much for him.

To be fair, I saved the missile launcher you get from the fight right outside the temple, so I should have technically been able to shoot the gunship down, but other than that it doesnt bother me too much.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I don't see why people hate Kai Leng so much.

Me neither.

He was never supposed to be deep or meaningful or even very interesting, we had TIM for that. But they could not very well have TIM run around and show up personally because that is not TIM´s style, so we got Kai Leng who serves little purpose beyond beeing the sword of Cerberus so to speak.

I realized this from the start and maybe that is why he never bothered me.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 07 août 2012 - 09:09 .

[GethPrimeMKII]

Even taking the books into consideration, Kai Leng was never such a big deal. I don't see why people feel Bioware mishandled the character when he really isn't much different than his book appearance.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Even taking the books into consideration, Kai Leng was never such a big deal. I don't see why people feel Bioware mishandled the character when he really isn't much different than his book appearance.

Cant speak for that, never read the books sadly, but to me it was clear from moment one that he was not gonna be a new Saren and never was meant to be.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 07 août 2012 - 09:11 .

[masster blaster]

So Bioware nerfed a nother gun.okay I am going to go play my weapons pack I got today, so see ya. Reapers beware Shepard is packing heavy weapons now.

[AxStapleton]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


Im sorry but how were his survivals on the Citadel and Thessia plot armor´ish?

On the Citadel we simply stop his Elevator and he retreats through the keeper tunnels, tunnels which have been established as far back as ME2 to be maze like and unmapped.

On Thessia Shepard is climbing up as he makes his escape...

Sorry, but I dont really see the plot armor in those two scenes.

Sure he was not a good character, buti simply saw him as our battling face of Cerberus as they coukdnt exactly have TIM come running on his own.

Did you see the Thane Vs Kai Leng scene? The one where Shepard and squad just stand there watching when they could have been spending their time shooting Kai Leng. There were plenty of free shots in all that.

[RavenEyry]

AxStapleton wrote...

Did you see the Thane Vs Kai Leng scene? The one where Shepard and squad just stand there watching when they could have been spending their time shooting Kai Leng. There were plenty of free shots in all that.

They didn't want to hit Thane maybe?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

AxStapleton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


Im sorry but how were his survivals on the Citadel and Thessia plot armor´ish?

On the Citadel we simply stop his Elevator and he retreats through the keeper tunnels, tunnels which have been established as far back as ME2 to be maze like and unmapped.

On Thessia Shepard is climbing up as he makes his escape...

Sorry, but I dont really see the plot armor in those two scenes.

Sure he was not a good character, buti simply saw him as our battling face of Cerberus as they coukdnt exactly have TIM come running on his own.

Did you see the Thane Vs Kai Leng scene? The one where Shepard and squad just stand there watching when they could have been spending their time shooting Kai Leng. There were plenty of free shots in all that.

Dont know about that, Thane sadly died on the Collector Base in my run through so Major Kirahee took a point blank blast instead.

But as said above my guess would be that they were afraid of hitting Thane? They may be good shots, but not perfect (not even Garrus)

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 07 août 2012 - 09:20 .

[JasonSic]

masster blaster wrote...

So Bioware nerfed a nother gun.okay I am going to go play my weapons pack I got today, so see ya. Reapers beware Shepard is packing heavy weapons now.

Wow, I didn't even know that pack was released already until I read your post. Kind of lame they make you spend at least $5 though, on Origin anyway.

[Big_Boss9]

AxStapleton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


Im sorry but how were his survivals on the Citadel and Thessia plot armor´ish?

On the Citadel we simply stop his Elevator and he retreats through the keeper tunnels, tunnels which have been established as far back as ME2 to be maze like and unmapped.

On Thessia Shepard is climbing up as he makes his escape...

Sorry, but I dont really see the plot armor in those two scenes.

Sure he was not a good character, buti simply saw him as our battling face of Cerberus as they coukdnt exactly have TIM come running on his own.

Did you see the Thane Vs Kai Leng scene? The one where Shepard and squad just stand there watching when they could have been spending their time shooting Kai Leng. There were plenty of free shots in all that.

Not to mention the Skycar scene. And don't even get me started on that ridiculous e-mail.

[GethPrimeMKII]

AxStapleton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


Im sorry but how were his survivals on the Citadel and Thessia plot armor´ish?

On the Citadel we simply stop his Elevator and he retreats through the keeper tunnels, tunnels which have been established as far back as ME2 to be maze like and unmapped.

On Thessia Shepard is climbing up as he makes his escape...

Sorry, but I dont really see the plot armor in those two scenes.

Sure he was not a good character, buti simply saw him as our battling face of Cerberus as they coukdnt exactly have TIM come running on his own.

Did you see the Thane Vs Kai Leng scene? The one where Shepard and squad just stand there watching when they could have been spending their time shooting Kai Leng. There were plenty of free shots in all that.

Shooting directly at two people brawling? They'd have just as much chance at gunning down Thane.

[RavenEyry]

Big_Boss9 wrote...
And don't even get me started on that ridiculous e-mail.

I loved the e-mail. It really highlighted how pathetic Leng really is.

[AxStapleton]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...


Did you see the Thane Vs Kai Leng scene? The one where Shepard and squad just stand there watching when they could have been spending their time shooting Kai Leng. There were plenty of free shots in all that.

Shooting directly at two people brawling? They'd have just as much chance at gunning down Thane.

0:37, there is plenty of time here to start shooting.

[masster blaster]

Well when Kai Leng was down Thane could have killed him, but it's okay I got my revenge on Thane's killer. All though I wish renegade interuption could have blown his stupid head off, and Bioware nerfd another MP weapon so thank you complainers.

[MaximizedAction]

RavenEyry wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...
And don't even get me started on that ridiculous e-mail.

I loved the e-mail. It really highlighted how pathetic Leng really is.

Kai Leng, cereal killer!