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[Nmmumaw]

Hey guys. I've been reading along on this thread for a while, and I was thinking about something regarding the endings that I'd be interested in getting opinions on.

Unless I'm mistaken, the dispersal method for the beam o' color is basically the same for all the endings (unless they stated otherwise and I missed it). So why is it that when you choose destroy, it (supposedly) destroys all synthetics, but if you choose control, it (supposedly) only affects the reapers? Shouldn't Shepard be in control of every synthetic everywhere? I've been pondering on this for a while now >.>

[RavenEyry]

Nmmumaw wrote...

Hey guys. I've been reading along on this thread for a while, and I was thinking about something regarding the endings that I'd be interested in getting opinions on.

Unless I'm mistaken, the dispersal method for the beam o' color is basically the same for all the endings (unless they stated otherwise and I missed it). So why is it that when you choose destroy, it (supposedly) destroys all synthetics, but if you choose control, it (supposedly) only affects the reapers? Shouldn't Shepard be in control of every synthetic everywhere? I've been pondering on this for a while now >.>

According to EC control just replaces the catalyst so there shouldn't be a lightshow at all.

[Nmmumaw]

RavenEyry wrote...

Nmmumaw wrote...

Hey guys. I've been reading along on this thread for a while, and I was thinking about something regarding the endings that I'd be interested in getting opinions on.

Unless I'm mistaken, the dispersal method for the beam o' color is basically the same for all the endings (unless they stated otherwise and I missed it). So why is it that when you choose destroy, it (supposedly) destroys all synthetics, but if you choose control, it (supposedly) only affects the reapers? Shouldn't Shepard be in control of every synthetic everywhere? I've been pondering on this for a while now >.>

According to EC control just replaces the catalyst so there shouldn't be a lightshow at all.

I guess they just didn't want them to feel left out.

[BleedingUranium]

Nmmumaw wrote...

Hey guys. I've been reading along on this thread for a while, and I was thinking about something regarding the endings that I'd be interested in getting opinions on.

Unless I'm mistaken, the dispersal method for the beam o' color is basically the same for all the endings (unless they stated otherwise and I missed it). So why is it that when you choose destroy, it (supposedly) destroys all synthetics, but if you choose control, it (supposedly) only affects the reapers? Shouldn't Shepard be in control of every synthetic everywhere? I've been pondering on this for a while now >.>

"The Crucuble will not discriminate."

It's still another thing that doesn't make any sense. That's not even getting into how precise it much be to do what is described in Synthesis.

[Andromidius]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

On topic: It's weird that the reapers went to London specifically. They must have been planning it for a while. After all, that's the first place they hit on Earth.

We all forget  that Anderson was born in London. And for a long time, he is the leader of the resistance on Earth -I.E. a major thorn in reaper's backsides. It could be all about HIM - because the place is important for HIM and it breaks HIM the most. This might be how he got broken, for setting up Shepard up to the beam. 

London is a strange choice if the goal is not Anderson -- it's far from the most populated city. It also could have been luck of the draw for publicity purposes.

This is probably a stretch, but in English literature -- particularly the works of Wordsworth and Blake and other Romantics -- London is regarded as the haven of insanity, where crazies lurk and heathens copulate. Could be a stretch but I do know for a fact that  at least one of the writers is familiar with Wordsworth. 

"The title of this assignment is a reference to the poem "The Solitary Reaper" by William Wordsworth."

...my mind is blown.

And yes, seemingly London was the first target on Earth that the Reapers hit - there was a direct feed to London HQ during the intro scene right before Vancouver is attacked.

...and yet its remarkably well intact still...

But yeah, read that poem.  Especially the last bit.

BEHOLD her, single in the field, 

  Yon solitary Highland Lass! 

Reaping and singing by herself; 

  Stop here, or gently pass! 

Alone she cuts and binds the grain,         5

And sings a melancholy strain; 

O listen! for the Vale profound 

Is overflowing with the sound. 

 

No Nightingale did ever chaunt 

  More welcome notes to weary bands  10

Of travellers in some shady haunt, 

  Among Arabian sands: 

A voice so thrilling ne'er was heard 

In spring-time from the Cuckoo-bird, 

Breaking the silence of the seas  15

Among the farthest Hebrides. 

 

Will no one tell me what she sings?— 

  Perhaps the plaintive numbers flow 

For old, unhappy, far-off things, 

  And battles long ago:  20

Or is it some more humble lay, 

Familiar matter of to-day? 

Some natural sorrow, loss, or pain, 

That has been, and may be again? 

 

Whate'er the theme, the Maiden sang  25

  As if her song could have no ending; 

I saw her singing at her work, 

  And o'er the sickle bending;— 

I listen'd, motionless and still; 

And, as I mounted up the hill,  30

The music in my heart I bore, 

Long after it was heard no more.

[Rifneno]

Huh. I posted a theory about why London, and I come back and see we're talking about London, but nobody bothered to read it.

=/

[RavenEyry]

I must have missed that, I don't generally review missed pages.

[Rifneno]

RavenEyry wrote...

I must have missed that, I don't generally review missed pages.

"So anyway. I was thinking. London. Anderson was born there, you know. But how we kept wondering WHY London. We never really had an answer on why the Reapers were so focused on it. Then it hit me, and it was so simple I wanted to slap myself for not realizing it instantly. It didn't have to be London, they just needed a big name metropolis and they needed it as devastated and hopeless as it could possibly be. Why? One more thing to break down Shepard's will. Remember how the crew, especially James, comments about they were ready to die here on Earth if they had to, but to see it like this...? Seeing just how desperate and hopeless things were was having a major psychological effect. It's just one more thing hammering away at Shepard's incredible but still finite amount of willpower."

[RavenEyry]

That's good, I like the trap idea but using a well known city for it to hurt the enemies morale would make sense. I don't think Hull or Bath would've got quite the same emotional response.

[Norlond]

I read it, but you didn't answer "Why London?" you just answered "Why a capital/big city?" or did I miss something?
Anyway, do you think the impact on Shep & Friends minds is really that severe? Shep seemed more affected after being defeated on Thessia than after seing London

[Eryri]

Rifneno wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I must have missed that, I don't generally review missed pages.

"So anyway. I was thinking. London. Anderson was born there, you know. But how we kept wondering WHY London. We never really had an answer on why the Reapers were so focused on it. Then it hit me, and it was so simple I wanted to slap myself for not realizing it instantly. It didn't have to be London, they just needed a big name metropolis and they needed it as devastated and hopeless as it could possibly be. Why? One more thing to break down Shepard's will. Remember how the crew, especially James, comments about they were ready to die here on Earth if they had to, but to see it like this...? Seeing just how desperate and hopeless things were was having a major psychological effect. It's just one more thing hammering away at Shepard's incredible but still finite amount of willpower."

London has that effect on me already. The Reapers would barely have had to lift a finger / tentacle.

[BleedingUranium]

RavenEyry wrote...

That's good, I like the trap idea but using a well known city for it to hurt the enemies morale would make sense. I don't think Hull or Bath would've got quite the same emotional response.

The Reapers did this with a Turian colony too. I forget the name, but when they attacked it, they broadcast vids of it to the rest of the Turian planets, because that place was where the Turian equiviant of 9/11 for the US happened.

[RavenEyry]

Eryri wrote...

London has that effect on me already. The Reapers would barely have had to lift a finger / tentacle.

You sir have offended my honour and I demand recompense!

*Glove slap*

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

That's good, I like the trap idea but using a well known city for it to hurt the enemies morale would make sense. I don't think Hull or Bath would've got quite the same emotional response.

The Reapers did this with a Turian colony too. I forget the name, but when they attacked it, they broadcast vids of it to the rest of the Turian planets, because that place was where the Turian equiviant of 9/11 for the US happened.

Taetrus.  Some major Reaper trolling going on there.

[Norlond]

RavenEyry wrote...
You sir have offended my honour and I demand recompense!

*Glove slap*

Too much Simpsons?

[Eryri]

Not being an expert on orbital mechanics you'll have to forgive me if I'm talking out of my hat - but if the reapers were planning to park the Citadel in geostationary orbit, and use their beam to zap people up to be goo-ified, wouldn't it make more sense to pick a city closer to the equator?

London's a long way north, wouldn't the beam have to fire upwards at an angle to connect with the citadel, instead of straight up as in the beam run? Or doesn't it work like that?

[RavenEyry]

Norlond wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...
You sir have offended my honour and I demand recompense!

*Glove slap*

Too much Simpsons?

I knew how to demand a duel before it was on the Simpsons.

Because it was on Sharpe. (Wine in the face works too)

[RavenEyry]

Eryri wrote...

Not being an expert on orbital mechanics you'll have to forgive me if I'm talking out of my hat - but if the reapers were planning to park the Citadel in geostationary orbit, and use their beam to zap people up to be goo-ified, wouldn't it make more sense to pick a city closer to the equator?

London's a long way north, wouldn't the beam have to fire upwards at an angle to connect with the citadel, instead of straight up as in the beam run? Or doesn't it work like that?

The weather's too nice at the equator for soul crushing.

[Wayning_Star]

over analyze lately?!?

[Eryri]

RavenEyry wrote...

Eryri wrote...

London has that effect on me already. The Reapers would barely have had to lift a finger / tentacle.

You sir have offended my honour and I demand recompense!

*Glove slap*

. Now I'll have to run back to the family farm and grow tomacco! 

Apologies for the London thing. I was going to suggest my own home town of Birmingham would be a better choice to sap Shepard's will to live, but anything the Reapers could do to that place could only be an improvement!

[byne]

Wayning_Star wrote...

over analyze lately?!?

We should all just stop thinking and let the soothing waves of synthesis flow over us.

[Norlond]

Has anyone ever calculated how far above Earth the Citadel is placed?

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

over analyze lately?!?

We should all just stop thinking and let the soothing waves of synthesis flow over us.

*Green goo seeps through the thread*

[Rifneno]

Damnit, this game gets into your head and you can't get it out. I'm playing Skyrim, going through a dwemer ruin, and I see a chaurus reaper. I hear Sovereign going, "Reaper. A label created by the dwemer to give voice to their destruction." <sigh>

[Eryri]

Norlond wrote...

Has anyone ever calculated how far above Earth the Citadel is placed?

"A geostationary orbit, or Geostationary Earth Orbit (GEO), is a circular orbit 35,786 kilometres (22,236 mi) above the Earth's equator and following the direction of the Earth's rotation. An object in such an orbit has an orbital period equal to the Earth's rotational period (one sidereal day), and thus appears motionless, at a fixed position in the sky, to ground observers."

From Wikipedia. It would have to be a geostationary orbit to remain above London at all times.

Modifié par Eryri, 16 décembre 2012 - 01:39 .