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[401 Kill]

RavenEyry wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...
Top right, what is foreshadow pointing to? Reaper anatomy? Mating?

Don't know but that sheet is always interesting. "Why did he have to die?" It's like they anticipated the confusion that would be caused.

And as for the end of the first Matrix, didn't it have someone proving the world wasn't real?

Yes. I'm glad that I have seen the first Matrix, because in the notes, it would seem that what Shepard sees is infact something the Reapers have projected.

[lex0r11]

RavenEyry wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yes, you Sir! Step forward.

Explain to these fine people here your disposition.

Sunny!

Very good.

Anyone else?

[RavenEyry]

masster blaster wrote...

Raven I am American, and my parents want to raze me right.

Then they might want to work on your spelling, raze is the opposite of what you presumably meant.

[401 Kill]

masster blaster wrote...

Raven I am American, and my parents want to raze me right.

USA! USA!

[Lokanaiya]

masster blaster wrote...

Raven I am American, and my parents want to raze me right.

They want to raze you?

I'm pretty sure you mean raise.

[lex0r11]

Arcian wrote...

Is there any actual substance to this thread or has it devolved into chatroom nonsense?

Anything you want to talk about related to IT?

I'd be happy to discuss.

[RavenEyry]

Arcian wrote...

Is there any actual substance to this thread or has it devolved into chatroom nonsense?

It changes hour by hour.

[401 Kill]

Arcian wrote...

Is there any actual substance to this thread or has it devolved into chatroom nonsense?

There is a talk on how in the notes of the ending, the Matrix is mentioned, and we are discussing how that relates to IT, and how that affects the endings.

[demersel]

lex0r11 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yes, you Sir! Step forward.

Explain to these fine people here your disposition.

Sunny!

Very good.

Anyone else?

I think that human body is beautifull, and interest in it and in the process of love making is much more healthy and normal than fascination with violence, murder and death. 

[zigamortis]

masster blaster wrote...

Raven I am American, and my parents want to raze me right.

Raise*

[zigamortis]

And what's so wrong with porn?

[masster blaster]

What I like is that in Destroy endinng the organics take control/ it is now in their power to either start the cycle over again, or end it, and when they create Synthetics. They will befriend the Synthetics, and treat them as friends/ equals.

Where as in Control the people don't take control because Shepanger is ruling the galaxy with an army of Reapers/ their forces. What he says is what he says, and who every trys to attack the many ( which really could mean the organics/ Synthetics, or the Reapers. My beat is the Reapers) they will be either killed, preserved into a husk, or be killed.

In Synthesis organic, and Synthetics don't take control, but Reapers help the galaxy rebuild. But what I find funny is that in Control the Reapers are doing the repairs to the galaxy all by themself. Mean that the Reapers don't need Organics, and Synthetics help. Where as in Synthesis Reapers are being helped by the Organics, and Synthetics.

Now isn't it funny that in Destroy the Organics take control of the galaxy. In Control the Reapers take control of the galaxy, yet in Synthesis everyone takes control of the galaxy.

[demersel]

Have you guys noticed that in the normady evac scene in the EC, after the squadmate says "don't send me away!" - when shepard responds - there is only his words, and almost no other sound. And Shepard's expression is very weird. As is the Angle - it is straight front shot as if you're looking in the mirror and seeing Shepard there.

[RavenEyry]

demersel wrote...

Have you guys noticed that in the normady evac scene in the EC, after the squadmate says "don't send me away!" - when shepard responds - there is only his words, and almost no other sound. And Shepard's expression is very weird. As is the Angle - it is straight front shot as if you're looking in the mirror and seeing Shepard there.

First the friends get sent away, then Anderson dies. No barriers left when Mr. Sparkle starts his assault.

[demersel]

zigamortis wrote...

And what's so wrong with porn?

It has become dull and unispired in the last decade. To obsessed with graphicality. Especially compared to the 70s and 80s. 

[demersel]

RavenEyry wrote...

demersel wrote...

Have you guys noticed that in the normady evac scene in the EC, after the squadmate says "don't send me away!" - when shepard responds - there is only his words, and almost no other sound. And Shepard's expression is very weird. As is the Angle - it is straight front shot as if you're looking in the mirror and seeing Shepard there.

First the friends get sent away, then Anderson dies. No barriers left when Mr. Sparkle starts his assault.

Exactly my point. That whole scene feels like a first barrier falling. It is like it starts on the outside, but digs deeper and deeper - same as you go deeper and deeper into the citadel. (the citadel represents shepard's mind)

If taken that way then the catalyst chamber is the very core of shepard's brain, his cortex. Then it spreads through the breain - the galaxy is the representation.   - slides and rebuilding of the normandy is shepard letting go, and his body and brain restarting. 

In destroy he doesn't let go. And his core (the normandy and it's crew) - does not let go. It ends with the normandy flying again. And the very next thing we see - Shepard takes a breath in the rubble. 

[BleedingUranium]

spotlessvoid wrote...


Top right, what is foreshadow pointing to? Reaper anatomy? Mating?

Reaper anatomy > Seed of Reapers > Weakness for Reapers

Also, at the top: "symbolic"

And: "Brave New World + end of first Matrix"

[BatmanTurian]

Check out this thread: Shepard didn't die in the explosion here is why


WHOOSH, right over their heads.

BSN: Missing the point since March 2012.

[demersel]

Arcian wrote...
Well, for one, I don't think BioWare is clever enough to have crafted the game to fit the IT mold, as some IT-supporters seem to believe. The IT, as it appears to me, is the product of fans trying to make sense out of the poorly made mess that is Mass Effect's endings.

That is wrong, and you are misinformed on this issue. 

Arcian wrote...
In ways, it makes a lot of sense - but looking at it from a practical viewpoint, making the IT real would essentially be admitting that they deliberately included a broken ending just to sell the real ending as DLC later on.

Which they can easily do the way gaming business works these days. I mean the EA was already voted the worst company in America last year - why is it so hard to grasp that NOTHING is beneath them now, and NOTHING gan do any damage to their reputation. 

Arcian wrote...
Not to mention invalidating Control/Synthesis.

Oh, poor Control/Synthesis - we sure don't want to upset THEM. 

Arcian wrote...
And it's quite clear that the IT wasn't intended, given the release of the EC.

That is wrong, again you are misinformed.

Arcian wrote...
But... as much as it pains me to admit it (and it really does), the IT could be a way out for them to right all the wrongs with the endings both pre and post-EC. It's either that or declaring the endings non-canon, and I don't ever see the latter happening.

Wait a couple more months and you'll see it happening. 

[BleedingUranium]

Arcian wrote...

Well, for one, I don't think BioWare is clever enough to have crafted the game to fit the IT mold, as some IT-supporters seem to believe. The IT, as it appears to me, is the product of fans trying to make sense out of the poorly made mess that is Mass Effect's endings. In ways, it makes a lot of sense - but looking at it from a practical viewpoint, making the IT real would essentially be admitting that they deliberately included a broken ending just to sell the real ending as DLC later on. Not to mention invalidating Control/Synthesis. And it's quite clear that the IT wasn't intended, given the release of the EC.

But... as much as it pains me to admit it (and it really does), the IT could be a way out for them to right all the wrongs with the endings both pre and post-EC. It's either that or declaring the endings non-canon, and I don't ever see the latter happening.

Addressing one point: It would be no more a "broken ending" than ME1 and ME2 not finishing the Reaper story.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:08 .

[zigamortis]

Arcian wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Is there any actual substance to this thread or has it devolved into chatroom nonsense?

Anything you want to talk about related to IT?

I'd be happy to discuss.

Well, for one, I don't think BioWare is clever enough to have crafted the game to fit the IT mold, as some IT-supporters seem to believe. The IT, as it appears to me, is the product of fans trying to make sense out of the poorly made mess that is Mass Effect's endings. In ways, it makes a lot of sense - but looking at it from a practical viewpoint, making the IT real would essentially be admitting that they deliberately included a broken ending just to sell the real ending as DLC later on. Not to mention invalidating Control/Synthesis. And it's quite clear that the IT wasn't intended, given the release of the EC.

But... as much as it pains me to admit it (and it really does), the IT could be a way out for them to right all the wrongs with the endings both pre and post-EC. It's either that or declaring the endings non-canon, and I don't ever see the latter happening.

As much as i would like to think that this whole debacle was on accident it very well could have been, in the final cut app one of them said that they originaly had planed to do an indoctrination ending but couldn't get it to work in the way they wanted. While that could mean they completly scrapped the idea, which I don't think they did, it also could mean they just redid the indoctrination ending and left the clues throughout the game in order to keep it as a possibility.

[BatmanTurian]

You can't argue with someone who thinks there is nothing to this series but bad writing. There is a fundamental schism there of massive proportions that makes it impossible for Arcian to give Bioware the slightest bit of credit. And so this conversation and debate with him is as pointless as trying to debate with Seboist, the exception only being that Arcian is slightly nicer.

It is like being an atheist and arguing with a creationist or being a liberal and arguing with a conservative or being a socialist and arguing with a capitalist. The divide is just too great.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:18 .

[BleedingUranium]

zigamortis wrote...

As much as i would like to think that this whole debacle was on accident it very well could have been, in the final cut app one of them said that they originaly had planed to do an indoctrination ending but couldn't get it to work in the way they wanted. While that could mean they completly scrapped the idea, which I don't think they did, it also could mean they just redid the indoctrination ending and left the clues throughout the game in order to keep it as a possibility.

I'm curious, why would you rather IT not be true?