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[paxxton]

Any idea on what the next MP OP might be? Where on the game's timeline?

[HellishFiend]

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


You did a good job fending off the few trolls who dared to enter the thread. Entertaining for lurkers everywhere.

lol, thanks. I tried. Air quotes and troll faces for everyone!

I have noticed both a distinct lack of Hellish and increase in trolls in the last few weeks.

You need to remedy both of those things, Hellish.

Yeah, you should come back and start with Shepdog77.

You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

[AxStapleton]

Bioware just had a power outage thanks to being hit by lightning.

[Hrothdane]

AxStapleton wrote...

Bioware just had a power outage thanks to being hit by lightning.

Thor wants Bioware to stop acting like his brother and get its **** together.

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


You did a good job fending off the few trolls who dared to enter the thread. Entertaining for lurkers everywhere.

lol, thanks. I tried. Air quotes and troll faces for everyone!

I have noticed both a distinct lack of Hellish and increase in trolls in the last few weeks.

You need to remedy both of those things, Hellish.

Yeah, you should come back and start with Shepdog77.

You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

[BlazingZephyr]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

(I posted this a few hours ago but nobody was on and it got overlooked so I am reposting it again because there are more people around). Before you read on, I already checked the beacon in the rejection ending and it doesn't make the same noise. However, I still believe many of the points are still valid because of the fact that it sounds like a beacon at all (read and you will have context for this).

I was listening to the Synthesis "I am alive, and I am not alone" song again and I noticed something. I may be grasping but it was pretty clear to me so here goes. 

Throughout this song there is a regular *boop* noise that comes up pretty frequently. This noise immediately made me think  BEACON. As soon as I heard the sound I immediately thought of a beacon, it is just the sound that I associate with beacons.

This added noise is one of the only things that seperates the "I am alive, and I am not alone" song from the "Uncharted worlds" song (which repersents the unknown, this does not correlate with the message in Synthesis by the way). Seeing as it is basically the same song, would there be extra significance to this added sound? I thought maybe.

I am at my desk at work right now and I don't have a pair of headphones that will reach so I was wondering if someone could help me out. Could someone cross check the noise from the SYNTHESIS "I am alive and I am not alone" and see if it is the same noise the beacon makes in the REJECT ending.

If this checks out I think it would further validate Turbo's "Leviathan is testing Shepard's resiliance" theory. Why? It is clear that if Leviathan was putting Shepard through a test to see if he/she was worthy of his help then Leviathan would NOT want Shepard to either, do nothing (Reject), or side with the reapers (synthesis). Shepard must instead take action (either control or destroy, with destroy being preferable).

It was hypothesized in Turbo's theory that rejection would cause Leviathan to abandon Shepard and the cycle while Synthesis causes Leviathan to KILL Shepard. What does this mean? The cycle will FAIL. What happens when the cycle fails? They people store information in BEACONS. This beacon (please check for me) might be there in both Syntehsis, and Reject.

Deeper speculation? This would also mean that either Synthesis, or the Crucible does NOT work. The use of the Crucible would bring about undesireable effects. This would invalidate Control. But, in this theory, Shepard just needs to make a choice to act against the reapers. Whether or not the Crucible actually works would not matter because this would all just be a test from Leviathan.

Thoughts?

Edit: formatting got messed up
Edit again: not sure if anyone posted it already but the firefight pack was released without Leviathan.

It seems as though you were ignored again.

Anyway, I personally think that the noises are not related, even though I partly agree with the "Levy Test" theory.

Also, firefight and Levy DLC were SUPPOSED to be separate.

[TSA_383]

AxStapleton wrote...

Bioware just had a power outage thanks to being hit by lightning.

Here's hoping they save frequently 

[CoolioThane]

IT is a valid possibility for the game.

In my opinion it is true.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

BlazingZephyr wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
*snip*

It seems as though you were ignored again.

Anyway, I personally think that the noises are not related, even though I partly agree with the "Levy Test" theory.

Also, firefight and Levy DLC were SUPPOSED to be separate.

It is a long post and I fall victim to ignoring long posts too sometimes. It also takes a lot of energy to speculate to hard on long posts. The only reason I think the noise is related is because it is the only thing differentiating about 3 different songs from sounding the same so I thought that it may have been added for a reason. I was really trying to find some prior information that might support the Levi theory. Should all this be true then it would also mean that the IT was planned and Bioware aren't actually bad writers. Not calling the writing in the ending bad but it just isn't...as good.

Edit: snipped the really long post

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 07 août 2012 - 10:40 .

[HellishFiend]

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

They need fuel to keep trolling, and people are providing it. Did you ever see what happened on the rare occassions when SubAstris's infamous "I have a question" posts were ignored? He went away. No troll is going to allow themselves to be counter-trolled by talking to themselves for pages on end. 

[GethPrimeMKII]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

They need fuel to keep trolling, and people are providing it. Did you ever see what happened on the rare occassions when SubAstris's infamous "I have a question" posts were ignored? He went away. No troll is going to allow themselves to be counter-trolled by talking to themselves for pages on end. 

Even Sub is more civil these days than a lot of the more recent trolls. 

[TJBartlemus]

TSA_383 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Bioware just had a power outage thanks to being hit by lightning.

Here's hoping they save frequently 

That worries me. What if they are working on the Leviathan and in part to the power outage it screws up what they have so far?  Here's to hoping they have a back up on all the stuff they make.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

TJBartlemus wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Bioware just had a power outage thanks to being hit by lightning.

Here's hoping they save frequently 

That worries me. What if they are working on the Leviathan and in part to the power outage it screws up what they have so far?  Here's to hoping they have a back up on all the stuff they make.

Maybe Bioware will just completely forget their scripts because they have it all saved on computers. They will then realize that they have no story material for any of the rest of the game so they come to the IT thread, which has all the material they need, and then proceed to make a better ending.

[AxStapleton]

TJBartlemus wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Bioware just had a power outage thanks to being hit by lightning.

Here's hoping they save frequently 

That worries me. What if they are working on the Leviathan and in part to the power outage it screws up what they have so far?  Here's to hoping they have a back up on all the stuff they make.

Many teams have probably started work on the next DLC by now considering Leviathan is probably in the Debugging or Certification stages.

Modifié par AxStapleton, 07 août 2012 - 10:45 .

[AxStapleton]

Hrothdane wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Bioware just had a power outage thanks to being hit by lightning.

Thor wants Bioware to stop acting like his brother and get its **** together.

Full of win.

+1:D

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

They need fuel to keep trolling, and people are providing it. Did you ever see what happened on the rare occassions when SubAstris's infamous "I have a question" posts were ignored? He went away. No troll is going to allow themselves to be counter-trolled by talking to themselves for pages on end. 

Yup, your method is troll-proof, but sometimes it funny to read what nonsense a troll has to say. Having said that I don't consider SubAstris to be a troll in a traditional sense. He's been with the IT thread since Mark I (even if only to challenge IT which only made it stronger).

[TJBartlemus]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

They need fuel to keep trolling, and people are providing it. Did you ever see what happened on the rare occassions when SubAstris's infamous "I have a question" posts were ignored? He went away. No troll is going to allow themselves to be counter-trolled by talking to themselves for pages on end. 

But arguing with trolls is so much fun. :innocent: If its a low level troll attacking, I consider it trolling a troll. High level trolls are a bit more frustrating however. Probably best just to hope that they leave to go back to their caves.

[HellishFiend]

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

They need fuel to keep trolling, and people are providing it. Did you ever see what happened on the rare occassions when SubAstris's infamous "I have a question" posts were ignored? He went away. No troll is going to allow themselves to be counter-trolled by talking to themselves for pages on end. 

But arguing with trolls is so much fun. :innocent: If its a low level troll attacking, I consider it trolling a troll. High level trolls are a bit more frustrating however. Probably best just to hope that they leave to go back to their caves.

I eventually gathered that some people actually enjoyed interacting with the trolls, so I stopped campaigning for people to handle them differently. But that only works if people are not being frustrated by them. If they are getting frustrated, obviously they are doing something wrong. 

[The Heretic of Time]

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

They need fuel to keep trolling, and people are providing it. Did you ever see what happened on the rare occassions when SubAstris's infamous "I have a question" posts were ignored? He went away. No troll is going to allow themselves to be counter-trolled by talking to themselves for pages on end. 

But arguing with trolls is so much fun. :innocent: If its a low level troll attacking, I consider it trolling a troll. High level trolls are a bit more frustrating however. Probably best just to hope that they leave to go back to their caves.

Do you consider me a low-level troll or a high-level troll?


I think I'm at least a lvl. 58 troll.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

Someone refresh me quick. Does a Shepard that picks control become a random AI that controls the reapers? Or does it become Harbinger?

[smokingotter1]

CoolioThane wrote...

IT is a valid possibility for the game.

In my opinion it is true.

This might inspire you from "The Empire Strikes Back" wiki:

"During production, great secrecy surrounded the fact that Darth Vader
was Luke's father. Like the rest of the crew, Prowse—who spoke all of
Vader's lines during filming—was given a false page that contained
dialogue with the revelatory line being "Obi-Wan killed your father."[13][20][21]
Hamill did not learn of the plot point until just before the scene was
filmed, astounding the actor; Kershner advised him to ignore Prowse's
dialogue and "use your own rhythm"."

I've been saying it again and again I do not believe most of the BW are in on the ending. Mac and Casey wrote the ending alone for a reason, there is a strong possibility that Priestly, Merizan, hell even Gamble are in the dark. There is absolutely no reason for even them to know the reveal. As long as Mac and Casey ensure the thematic elements are there they can trust that fans will start putting 2 and 2 together.

Just because you're an employee at Bioware and working on the ME3 project does not guarantee that you will see the forrest through the trees.

IT is a valid possibility? More like IT is the ending, I otter know.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 07 août 2012 - 11:03 .

[The Heretic of Time]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Someone refresh me quick. Does a Shepard that picks control become a random AI that controls the reapers? Or does it become Harbinger?

Shepard becomes the new Catalyst when he picks control. He's not a reaper himself.

[HellishFiend]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

They need fuel to keep trolling, and people are providing it. Did you ever see what happened on the rare occassions when SubAstris's infamous "I have a question" posts were ignored? He went away. No troll is going to allow themselves to be counter-trolled by talking to themselves for pages on end. 

But arguing with trolls is so much fun. :innocent: If its a low level troll attacking, I consider it trolling a troll. High level trolls are a bit more frustrating however. Probably best just to hope that they leave to go back to their caves.

Do you consider me a low-level troll or a high-level troll?


I think I'm at least a lvl. 58 troll.

You get 2 out of 5 troll faces.

 X X X

Or if you prefer to go by the air-quotes system, you get air quotes up. 



Is that better or worse than air quotes down or sideways? I'm not telling. 

[MaximizedAction]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

Someone refresh me quick. Does a Shepard that picks control become a random AI that controls the reapers? Or does it become Harbinger?

Uff, Harbinger? I don't know. But I think the ending allows for him to either become the replacement for the Catalyst or some AI, with Reaper tendencies (Shep's voice)

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 août 2012 - 11:02 .

[Hrothdane]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
You would have me deign to that level? Trolls like that would darwin themselves out of the thread without any help from anyone if people would stop bringing them kindling and lighter fluid. 

It's not your average one-time "mumbo-jumbo" troll. He's recurring.

They need fuel to keep trolling, and people are providing it. Did you ever see what happened on the rare occassions when SubAstris's infamous "I have a question" posts were ignored? He went away. No troll is going to allow themselves to be counter-trolled by talking to themselves for pages on end. 

But arguing with trolls is so much fun. :innocent: If its a low level troll attacking, I consider it trolling a troll. High level trolls are a bit more frustrating however. Probably best just to hope that they leave to go back to their caves.

Do you consider me a low-level troll or a high-level troll?


I think I'm at least a lvl. 58 troll.

That hasn't been high-level since vanilla, and especially not since the cap is going up to 90. Level 58 trolls still have to slog through Outland and Hellfire Peninsula.