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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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RavenEyry

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KneeTheCap wrote...

Did they offer any explanation why that message appears after the game? Or did they just brush it off as a bug? And what was the other one that does not fit?

If it's a bug I can't fathom when it was actually supposed to appear because it makes no sense anywhere. And no, I don't recall seeing any comment whatsoever from Bioware.

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I'VE GOT IT! I Think I remember who I was confusing Dorktanian with; I don't have a clue why, but I think it was Fingertip.


Isnt he the former IT zealot turned literalist troll? He sucks hard.


That's an understatement and a half.

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RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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Shall we discuss what we think might happen after the breath scene?


Considering the two messages from that app that dont fit in at any point in the game and you only get after beating the game, Shep probably goes to the hospital.

The question remains: what type of hospital?

A Silent Hill hospital obviously. Husks in short skirts everywhere.

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...
Shall we discuss what we think might happen after the breath scene?


Considering the two messages from that app that dont fit in at any point in the game and you only get after beating the game, Shep probably goes to the hospital.

The question remains: what type of hospital?

Sacred Heart.


Shep can't do this all on his own, oh no, he's no superman.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I'VE GOT IT! I Think I remember who I was confusing Dorktanian with; I don't have a clue why, but I think it was Fingertip.


Isnt he the former IT zealot turned literalist troll? He sucks hard.


That would be the one yes.

No, don't ask me how I got "Dorktanian" out of "Fingertip".


Considering you meant Fingertrip and not Dorktanian, you calling him a pest goes from being a bit mean and out of nowhere to far too nice and well deserved.

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Shall we discuss what we think might happen after the breath scene?


Considering the two messages from that app that dont fit in at any point in the game and you only get after beating the game, Shep probably goes to the hospital.

The question remains: what type of hospital?


Sacred Heart.


YES SCRUBS. Hell Yeah byne

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 Between silence and talking

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CoolioThane wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Shall we discuss what we think might happen after the breath scene?


Considering the two messages from that app that dont fit in at any point in the game and you only get after beating the game, Shep probably goes to the hospital.

The question remains: what type of hospital?


Sacred Heart.


YES SCRUBS. Hell Yeah byne


We could definitely use Dr. Cox, since renedouche Shepard stopped being funny in 3.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Who says face value was ever intended as a truly valid ending?. The literal ending fails at everything. Writing, closure, lore and themes, actual logic, gameplay, emotional impact (no not rage) and even just basic enjoyment is all absolute fail.

IT + Reveal fixes all of it. Some argue IT w/o reveal fixes everything but closure.

Regardless, do you think Bioware went full blown catastrophic head trauma retarded with the ending, or that the same company that has a penchant for twist endings is at it again?


So much this.

I don't think face value was ever intended to be legit. They're just pretending.

People complaining that an IT reveal would invalidate three out of four endings, simply don't understand that these endings aren't in line with any of the lore or logic in the story.

The point of the ending is that the Reapers are incredibly devious, and after everything we've seen throughout the trilogy, it is beyond naive to go along with what the so-called Reaper Overlord suggests.

And I absolutely can't believe Bioware is going to reward players for doing that.

As Javik says: "The galaxy has never rewarded the naive."

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 17 décembre 2012 - 05:23 .


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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

So much this.

I don't think face value was ever intended to be legit. They're just pretending.

People complaining that an IT reveal would invalidate three out of four endings, simply don't understand that these endings aren't in line with any of the lore or logic in the story.

The point of the ending is that the Reapers are incredibly devious, and after everything we've seen throughout the trilogy, it is beyond naive to go along with what the so-called Reaper Overlord suggests.

And I abolsutely can't believe Bioware is going to reward players for doing that.

As Javik says: "The galaxy has never rewarded the naive."


The problem is that these people think they're all precious little angels that can never and should never be wrong.  Heaven forbid there be consequences for making an idiot choice.

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The whole series of games is telling us to destroy the Reapers. Saren wanted synthesis, TIM wants Control. Both want to kill us as we are getting in the way. Both are indoctrinated.

Choose between: Control, Synthesis or Destroy.
Or don't choose you silly person: Refuse

How can anyone NOT pick Destroy. ****

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Rifneno wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

So much this.

I don't think face value was ever intended to be legit. They're just pretending.

People complaining that an IT reveal would invalidate three out of four endings, simply don't understand that these endings aren't in line with any of the lore or logic in the story.

The point of the ending is that the Reapers are incredibly devious, and after everything we've seen throughout the trilogy, it is beyond naive to go along with what the so-called Reaper Overlord suggests.

And I abolsutely can't believe Bioware is going to reward players for doing that.

As Javik says: "The galaxy has never rewarded the naive."


The problem is that these people think they're all precious little angels that can never and should never be wrong.  Heaven forbid there be consequences for making an idiot choice.


It's no different that making the wrong choices for people during the suicide mission. All you had to go on was your knowledge of each of the characters. It was a test to see if you paid attention throughout the game. Hell, Miranda even recommends herself for the bubble and can't do it, this is no different.

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I think what irks me the most are bad writing zealots suggesting that choices in this game don't have any major impact. Last I checked entire races either live or perish based on your decisions.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

It's no different that making the wrong choices for people during the suicide mission. All you had to go on was your knowledge of each of the characters. It was a test to see if you paid attention throughout the game. Hell, Miranda even recommends herself for the bubble and can't do it, this is no different.

Yeah you had to remember Miranda's ego in that scene. Someone who can do it brings up the idea and volunteers and then Miranda goes all "No! I can totally do it too!" Picking Miranda is clearly foolish but I doubt it stopped many people.

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I think what irks me the most are bad writing zealots suggesting that choices in this game don't have any major impact. Last I checked entire races either live or perish based on your decisions.


And the choice to save both races in another situation cannot even be pulled of unless you completed certain events in the game before and one choice in ME2 can make it much harder to save both races.

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CoolioThane wrote...

The whole series of games is telling us to destroy the Reapers. Saren wanted synthesis, TIM wants Control. Both want to kill us as we are getting in the way. Both are indoctrinated.

Choose between: Control, Synthesis or Destroy.
Or don't choose you silly person: Refuse

How can anyone NOT pick Destroy. ****

 

Well, some may pick control in order to have their Shepard live. Sort of. The kid does tell you that if you choose destroy, you die. 

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KneeTheCap wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

The whole series of games is telling us to destroy the Reapers. Saren wanted synthesis, TIM wants Control. Both want to kill us as we are getting in the way. Both are indoctrinated.

Choose between: Control, Synthesis or Destroy.
Or don't choose you silly person: Refuse

How can anyone NOT pick Destroy. ****

 

Well, some may pick control in order to have their Shepard live. Sort of. The kid does tell you that if you choose destroy, you die. 


Which just makes Shepard's survival in Destroy that much more of a complete mystery.

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KneeTheCap wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

The whole series of games is telling us to destroy the Reapers. Saren wanted synthesis, TIM wants Control. Both want to kill us as we are getting in the way. Both are indoctrinated.

Choose between: Control, Synthesis or Destroy.
Or don't choose you silly person: Refuse

How can anyone NOT pick Destroy. ****

 

Well, some may pick control in order to have their Shepard live. Sort of. The kid does tell you that if you choose destroy, you die. 


Selfishness is obviously the bad choice though, which is my point. People who don't pick Destroy are making a bad decision...and should live with it

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I think Bioware invalidated synthesis as an ending the moment they wrote it. Because putting circuitry on random **** was the best way to legitimize synthesis.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

I think Bioware invalidated synthesis as an ending the moment they wrote it. Because putting circuitry on random **** was the best way to legitimize synthesis.

Sentient hats for everyone!

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I think what irks me the most are bad writing zealots suggesting that choices in this game don't have any major impact. Last I checked entire races either live or perish based on your decisions.


Exactly.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

I think Bioware invalidated synthesis as an ending the moment they wrote it. Because putting circuitry on random **** was the best way to legitimize synthesis.


And Control is invalidated for anyone with a functional short term memory, and can recall Shepard's little speech from a mere 5 minutes earlier, explaining to TIM just what a horrendous idea it was.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

I think Bioware invalidated synthesis as an ending the moment they wrote it. Because putting circuitry on random **** was the best way to legitimize synthesis.


I know, right?  I honestly think the message with circuitry on leaves and **** was "this isn't real, this is too stupid to be real, you get that don't you?"

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I think the canon synthesis ending should be a montage of your crew facepalming

Exactly Rif. It's intentional and it's ludicrous. So it's intentionally ludicrous. Why would they so blatantly mock that ending? Hrrrmmmmm

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