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[paxxton]

Dwailing wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

byne wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I actually like the uniforms, but the dress makes Shep's hips look huge. The one from stolen memory was nice but the 3 version looks as awful and out of place as Aller's dress.

That dress is super weird. It has a zipper on the butt. I am not going to speculate as to why.

We don't need to speculate because let's face it, we know why.

It's obviously to make it easier to go to the bathroom! 

Edit: Oh come on!  Top with this?

Emergency Extraction Port

[Andromidius]

paxxton wrote...
Emergency Extraction Port

Emergency Induction Port

[estebanus]

401 Kill wrote...

demersel wrote...

While we are on the subject of outfits - have you noticed how shepard's hands look?

they are blackened and greyish - they are not hands of a healthy man. - pay attention - on all the outfits besides the admiral uniform. On admiral uniform male Shapard has Hackett's wrinkled old hands.

I have noticed this. Do femSheps hands seem unusual as well?

I don't think so. Want me to post a pic?

[401 Kill]

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

demersel wrote...

While we are on the subject of outfits - have you noticed how shepard's hands look?

they are blackened and greyish - they are not hands of a healthy man. - pay attention - on all the outfits besides the admiral uniform. On admiral uniform male Shapard has Hackett's wrinkled old hands.

I have noticed this. Do femSheps hands seem unusual as well?

I don't think so. Want me to post a pic?

Go for it.

[Xd2delo]

Andromidius wrote...


Destroy is the only ending which Shepard survives.  Its also the ending most IT'ers consider to be the 'correct' choice when it comes to whether or not Shepard resists the Indoctrination attempt.  Considering Shepard's state, days or weeks on hospital would be required - he/she is in a far worse state then the VS was, and they were seemingly out for weeks.

However, it can be suggested that in Control and Synthesis, assuming IT, Shepard would also still need medical attention.  And what better way to worm back into the camp of your enemy that as a wounded war hero?

Regardless, Shepard being in hospital would mean people want to visit.

The only other explainations for the message are:

1/ An easter egg.
2/ It was sent by the VS before the attack on Earth but was blocked due to Shepard being under arrest - i.e. 'they' didn't allow the visit - and was only recently released.

And I don't consider it a spoiler.  Considering we have the Breath Scene, the biggest 'spoiler' possible.

Initial caveat: I'm not trying to discuss the datapad message as proving or disproving IT, only in terms of whether or not it should be considered "admissible evidence" as it were, either way.  My conclusion is that it is not. 

I think in the literalist or IT version of Destroy, yes, Shepard would be in the hospital for a while.  But my point is that the message is sent some time afterwards. If literalism is true, that's consistent with high EMS Destroy, so that's fine.  If IT is true, however, this would imply that AT LEAST a few days has passed since Shepard was knocked out.  

Again, either the coalition fleet and most probably the Crucible is wiped out, they're improbably victorious, OR Shepard wakes up, something happens to resolve the Reaper war, and THEN he is hospitalized. 

In the first case, it's hard to see how the story could continue with a defeat of the Reapers.  The second case seems WILDLY improbable.  The third case is possible, but again, it constitutes a massive spoiler because it implies that after whatever IT DLC comes, or post wake up events occur, Shepard survives! 

So the message seems most consistent with a literalist interpretation of Destroy.  For that reason, I find it of limited relevance to these discussions, because, as has been noted, it seems exceedingly difficult to explain how Shep survives the Citadel's explosion, and that is what literalist Destroy implies has occurred.  So the most likely conclusion is that the message is part of a disinformation campaign.

I hadn't considered Control and Synthesis in the IT context and I definitely agree with what you say there; but does the message ever appear in those cases though?  I have no knowledge on the matter.  If it's sent at all when those two choices are made, it would appear to be corroborating IT strongly, because in both cases, Shepard's  body is destroyed in the literalist interpretation. 

So I think I agree with you for the most part, but I have the reservations noted above. 

[Andromidius]

Xd2delo wrote...

So the message seems most consistent with a literalist interpretation of Destroy. 

Except with the 'how does Shepard survive?' question.

Hense, IT.

[estebanus]

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

demersel wrote...

While we are on the subject of outfits - have you noticed how shepard's hands look?

they are blackened and greyish - they are not hands of a healthy man. - pay attention - on all the outfits besides the admiral uniform. On admiral uniform male Shapard has Hackett's wrinkled old hands.

I have noticed this. Do femSheps hands seem unusual as well?

I don't think so. Want me to post a pic?

Go for it.

Here you go. 

Doesn't seem to me like something's wrong with her hands. Maybe I can find a better one, where you see all of the hand.

[RavenEyry]

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

[dorktainian]

glitch or not?

If you leave the war-room running.....you slow right down (as if in the dream sequence)
Thanks for this to my son. Good spot laddo.

[estebanus]

RavenEyry wrote...

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

That's simply the default Shep. I made an extra playthrough without import, where I basically just royally f*ck up. You could say it's my low EMS playthrough.

[Xd2delo]

Andromidius wrote...

Xd2delo wrote...

So the message seems most consistent with a literalist interpretation of Destroy. 

Except with the 'how does Shepard survive?' question.

Hense, IT.

I'm not persuaded that it's relevant to that question, personally, but I can see how that makes sense. 
It seems MORE consistent, to me, with the literalist Destroy option, than with IT Destroy (for the reasons I mentioned above).
But (though it smacks of circular reasoning) that's, to me, why the message itself is not credible/must be treated as inconclusive.  
I think we're agreeing with each other from different sides of the board, so to speak. 

[estebanus]

dorktainian wrote...

glitch or not?

If you leave the war-room running.....you slow right down (as if in the dream sequence)
Thanks for this to my son. Good spot laddo.

that happens constantly when you run against a closed door or a wall. The walking animation keeps on going, only it's slowed down.

[Rifneno]

RavenEyry wrote...

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

No real life face model.  Male Shep gets one.  Pretty much all the squad mates get one.  But they didn't give a damn enough to get a real woman to model for FemShep's face.  They did for aliens, but not the human main character.  Most puzzling non-story thing of the series.

[RavenEyry]

Rifneno wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

No real life face model.  Male Shep gets one.  Pretty much all the squad mates get one.  But they didn't give a damn enough to get a real woman to model for FemShep's face.  They did for aliens, but not the human main character.  Most puzzling non-story thing of the series.

Default femshep fom 1 and 2 looked fine without a model. 3's one looks like a cartoon. Also not much like the promotional images.

[estebanus]

Rifneno wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

No real life face model.  Male Shep gets one.  Pretty much all the squad mates get one.  But they didn't give a damn enough to get a real woman to model for FemShep's face.  They did for aliens, but not the human main character.  Most puzzling non-story thing of the series.

Her face reminds me of something I'd expect on a cartoon character.

[Rifneno]

estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

No real life face model.  Male Shep gets one.  Pretty much all the squad mates get one.  But they didn't give a damn enough to get a real woman to model for FemShep's face.  They did for aliens, but not the human main character.  Most puzzling non-story thing of the series.

Her face reminds me of something I'd expect on a cartoon character.

Her face reminds me of something I'd expect to see in a nightmare where people look "almost" right but are just off enough to hint at the horrible truth.

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

No real life face model.  Male Shep gets one.  Pretty much all the squad mates get one.  But they didn't give a damn enough to get a real woman to model for FemShep's face.  They did for aliens, but not the human main character.  Most puzzling non-story thing of the series.

Her face reminds me of something I'd expect on a cartoon character.

I agree with Rifneno. BioWare should explain their reasoning in this matter.

Modifié par paxxton, 17 décembre 2012 - 09:51 .

[paxxton]

Rifneno wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

No real life face model.  Male Shep gets one.  Pretty much all the squad mates get one.  But they didn't give a damn enough to get a real woman to model for FemShep's face.  They did for aliens, but not the human main character.  Most puzzling non-story thing of the series.

Her face reminds me of something I'd expect on a cartoon character.

Her face reminds me of something I'd expect to see in a nightmare where people look "almost" right but are just off enough to hint at the horrible truth.

A cat.

[zigamortis]

I wish she looked like the promotional art. That femshep is hot. Not the in game though.

[estebanus]

RavenEyry wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Her hands are fine... what's wrong with her face?

No real life face model.  Male Shep gets one.  Pretty much all the squad mates get one.  But they didn't give a damn enough to get a real woman to model for FemShep's face.  They did for aliens, but not the human main character.  Most puzzling non-story thing of the series.

Default femshep fom 1 and 2 looked fine without a model. 3's one looks like a cartoon. Also not much like the promotional images.

I liked the origininal femshep face simply because that's how I'd expect a female special forces veteran to look like. I'm pretty sure long hair and make up don't go well with fighting. In fact, I know it doesn't. In the current military, female soldiers can at most have a very thin layer of makeup, and only when you're not out patrolling. They also can't have long hair, they either have to have ponytails or cut it short. 

The ME3 femshep looks like BioWare trying to make femshep look sexy, and failing miserably at it. 

[estebanus]

zigamortis wrote...

I wish she looked like the promotional art. That femshep is hot. Not the in game though.

I never wanted a hot femshep, personally. I wanted a believable one. One, where you can see she's a combat veteran just by looking at her face. I think that's what actually made the original femshep so popular.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Xd2delo wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Xd2delo wrote...

So the message seems most consistent with a literalist interpretation of Destroy. 

Except with the 'how does Shepard survive?' question.

Hense, IT.

I'm not persuaded that it's relevant to that question, personally, but I can see how that makes sense. 
It seems MORE consistent, to me, with the literalist Destroy option, than with IT Destroy (for the reasons I mentioned above).
But (though it smacks of circular reasoning) that's, to me, why the message itself is not credible/must be treated as inconclusive.  
I think we're agreeing with each other from different sides of the board, so to speak. 

How? Who is the VS going to send a message to? A pile of ash and dust?

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

I wish she looked like the promotional art. That femshep is hot. Not the in game though.

I never wanted a hot femshep, personally. I wanted a believable one. One, where you can see she's a combat veteran just by looking at her face. I think that's what actually made the original femshep so popular.

I miss the customizable scars in ME1.

Also, since I'm bored, what does your FemShep look like?

Here's mine:

[GethPrimeMKII]

I just want more customization options for my Shepards. I hate that PC users with their mods get to have all the fun.

[paxxton]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I just want more customization options for my Shepards. I hate that PC users with their mods get to have all the fun.

How is it different on PS3?

Modifié par paxxton, 17 décembre 2012 - 10:09 .