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masster blaster wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

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How about I eat the cookies, and as for the angry faces I will put a smile on their face.


but if you eat the cookies there wont be any left for santa:o


I am Santa.


are you now.....*points gun at face* Where is the N64 i asked for when i was 6?


Ya about that, I lost it during a snow storm. So ya sorry, but I hoped you liked the corvet I got you instead.


I never asked for this
-2 weeks later-
reporting for CNN here at evergreen street were dozen of kids as all around the world cry because they didn´t receive any gifts this year, and between their tears all they ask is "where is Santa?"......sniff.... Santa if you´re out there please come back we belive in you we still believe....

-3 weeks later-
the body found by a whale hunter boat 4 days ago has been confirmed as the one of Mr.Claus everybody, today is a sad day for all kids around the globe...

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That's for the cookies.

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lex0r11 wrote...

I will lock you guys up in a group with Seival for 24 hours before unlocking it again if you put up another one. Maybe pyramids will help you in there.


pyramids have pointy ends, and Seival is made out of soft flesh..... yeah i´m sure i can live through that

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Oh so that's what happened to the old Santa. Ya I am his 7th millith clone you see. Santa can't be in all places at once, but hey that Santa was oh....Ya that was Santa clone 234876. Ya nice guy.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

I leave home for a for days and look what happens...

Really people? BUT check this out!!!
http://social.biowar...1776/3#14866730


What the?  I don't even?  I can't?  JESUS CHRIST ON A PIKESTAFF WHAT THE FRAK WAS THAT???!!! O_o O_o O_o

BTW, I hope this doesn't offend anyone.  I'm merely channeling my inner Arturo (I think that's how his name is spelled, it's been awhile since I looked at that fic.)

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh so that's what happened to the old Santa. Ya I am his 7th millith clone you see. Santa can't be in all places at once, but hey that Santa was oh....Ya that was Santa clone 234876. Ya nice guy.

OUR NUMBERS WILL DARKEN THE SKY OF EVERY WORLD.
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YOU CANNOT ESCAPE YOUR DOOM.Posted Image

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Oh come on Banshee that's kindergarden pyramid post.

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh so that's what happened to the old Santa. Ya I am his 7th millith clone you see. Santa can't be in all places at once, but hey that Santa was oh....Ya that was Santa clone 234876. Ya nice guy.

Have you beat, Banshee.Posted Image
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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

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Dwailing wrote...

So, I'm currently in the middle of a playthrough of ME2, and I've concluded something. Even though I know I'm primarily a Paragon, I'm going to destroy the geth heretics. Why? Because if this experience has taught me anything, it's that death is better than having your head screwed with. At least in the ME universe. And besides, when you listen to what ParagonShep says, it sounds like, at least at first, he supports destroying the geth heretics.  It seems like a bit of a last minute reversal of opinion at the end of the mission to reprogram them.

But they were reprogrammed by Sovereign, so you're undoing a rewrite by rewriting them to the way they were before Sovereign's rewrite rewroter them. basically, you're setting them free from Reaper control.


But its explained in 3 that rewriting the Heretics ends up biting you in the ass. The former heretics gave the reapers greater influence over the consensus, making the desicion to ally with the reapers for protection easier. 

They only do that because the Quarians threatened them with extermination. When you're backed into a corner and someone offers you a hand, you don't look at the hand but just take it.


Yeah, about that.

Why not run to, you know, more reliable allies for help? Why did it have to be the Reapers? Of all the species they could run to for help?

I mean, come on.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:06 .


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Not necessarily. PT can be either literal or non-literal. At its most basic level, it simply states that the ending will be expanded upon through DLC. As well, war assets could play an enormous role in an IT reveal.


An interesting link that says why they should *not* do an IT reveal under the section titled "So why won't Bioware just admit that this is what they meant"? Also talks about the usual stuff that we already know about IT.

It's up to them whether they do it or not, but if they do decide to do this, guaranteed, those who wanted the ending open to interpretation wouldn't be too pleased, like that guy who went nuts over people not getting the ending (posted the link a few months ago). He actually doesn't play this game anymore, because the EC was released, and that they caved to fan pressure. .

Modifié par magnetite, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:09 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Oh so that's what happened to the old Santa. Ya I am his 7th millith clone you see. Santa can't be in all places at once, but hey that Santa was oh....Ya that was Santa clone 234876. Ya nice guy.


so that means you´re still out there with more of your friends?.......it´ll be fun

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

So, I'm currently in the middle of a playthrough of ME2, and I've concluded something. Even though I know I'm primarily a Paragon, I'm going to destroy the geth heretics. Why? Because if this experience has taught me anything, it's that death is better than having your head screwed with. At least in the ME universe. And besides, when you listen to what ParagonShep says, it sounds like, at least at first, he supports destroying the geth heretics.  It seems like a bit of a last minute reversal of opinion at the end of the mission to reprogram them.

But they were reprogrammed by Sovereign, so you're undoing a rewrite by rewriting them to the way they were before Sovereign's rewrite rewroter them. basically, you're setting them free from Reaper control.


But its explained in 3 that rewriting the Heretics ends up biting you in the ass. The former heretics gave the reapers greater influence over the consensus, making the desicion to ally with the reapers for protection easier. 

They only do that because the Quarians threatened them with extermination. When you're backed into a corner and someone offers you a hand, you don't look at the hand but just take it.


Yeah, about that.

Why not run to, you know, more reliable allies for help? Why did it have to be the Reapers? Of all the species they could run to for help?

I mean, come on.

EDI states that the Geth have no allies to call on for support.

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Santa is a Reaper that explains it.

I can see it now. Catalyst is Santa, and his Reapers are his raindeer. The husks/ Indoctrinated people are the elfs. The Citadle is his sled, and dark spaces is his North pole.

Santabringer: submit to me Shepard, or I will put you on the naughty list.

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Santabringer: submit to me Shepard, or I will put you on the naughty list.


He'd be more like that crazy Santa from Futurama who's standards were set too high due to a programming error, so he puts everyone on the naugty list except for Zoidberg.

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masster blaster wrote...

Santa is a Reaper that explains it.

I can see it now. Catalyst is Santa, and his Reapers are his raindeer. The husks/ Indoctrinated people are the elfs. The Citadle is his sled, and dark spaces is his North pole.

Santabringer: submit to me Shepard, or I will put you on the naughty list.

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masster blaster wrote...

Santa is a Reaper that explains it.

I can see it now. Catalyst is Santa, and his Reapers are his raindeer. The husks/ Indoctrinated people are the elfs. The Citadle is his sled, and dark spaces is his North pole.

Santabringer: submit to me Shepard, or I will put you on the naughty list.


Shepard will confront the toughest decision yet: Saving the universe and having an orgy with every female in the universe or getting an autographed Blasto the Spectre action figure for x-mas

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Okay night guys/gals.

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magnetite wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Not necessarily. PT can be either literal or non-literal. At its most basic level, it simply states that the ending will be expanded upon through DLC. As well, war assets could play an enormous role in an IT reveal.


An interesting link that says why they should *not* do an IT reveal under the section titled "So why won't Bioware just admit that this is what they meant"? Also talks about the usual stuff that we already know about IT.

It's up to them whether they do it or not, but if they do decide to do this, guaranteed, those who wanted the ending open to interpretation wouldn't be too pleased, like that guy who went nuts over people not getting the ending (posted the link a few months ago). He actually doesn't play this game anymore, because the EC was released, and that they caved to fan pressure. .

Yeah, the 2 people who want it open will be displeased. Posted Image Not to sound aggressive; it is a joke. But far more poeple want the ending "fixed" that left as is.

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Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Santa is a Reaper that explains it.

I can see it now. Catalyst is Santa, and his Reapers are his raindeer. The husks/ Indoctrinated people are the elfs. The Citadle is his sled, and dark spaces is his North pole.

Santabringer: submit to me Shepard, or I will put you on the naughty list.


Shepard will confront the toughest decision yet: Saving the universe and having an orgy with every female in the universe or getting an autographed Blasto the Spectre action figure for x-mas

There's no difficult choice, the Blasto action figure for sure

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Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Santa is a Reaper that explains it.

I can see it now. Catalyst is Santa, and his Reapers are his raindeer. The husks/ Indoctrinated people are the elfs. The Citadle is his sled, and dark spaces is his North pole.

Santabringer: submit to me Shepard, or I will put you on the naughty list.


Shepard will confront the toughest decision yet: Saving the universe and having an orgy with every female in the universe or getting an autographed Blasto the Spectre action figure for x-mas

Are-you-kidding-me-that's-not-even WAIT! Every female??? Posted Image

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Santa is a Reaper that explains it.

I can see it now. Catalyst is Santa, and his Reapers are his raindeer. The husks/ Indoctrinated people are the elfs. The Citadle is his sled, and dark spaces is his North pole.

Santabringer: submit to me Shepard, or I will put you on the naughty list.


Shepard will confront the toughest decision yet: Saving the universe and having an orgy with every female in the universe or getting an autographed Blasto the Spectre action figure for x-mas

There's no difficult choice, the Blasto action figure for sure


but the priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiize..... who am i kidding Blasto all the way, orgies are for losers

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Santa is a Reaper that explains it.

I can see it now. Catalyst is Santa, and his Reapers are his raindeer. The husks/ Indoctrinated people are the elfs. The Citadle is his sled, and dark spaces is his North pole.

Santabringer: submit to me Shepard, or I will put you on the naughty list.


Shepard will confront the toughest decision yet: Saving the universe and having an orgy with every female in the universe or getting an autographed Blasto the Spectre action figure for x-mas

Are-you-kidding-me-that's-not-even WAIT! Every female??? Posted Image


yeah i could have said Female or male, but i´m an inconsiderate heterosexual bastard who uses a lesbian femshep:devil:
edit¨if you meant that your shepard wouldn´t do it with every female in the universe...... what if wrong with him/her
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Modifié par Fur28, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:22 .


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Well, I'm off for the night. I'll see you all tomorrow. Good discussion about the Heretics. It's definitely a difficult question, that probably has no true "right" answer.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

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They only do that because the Quarians threatened them with extermination. When you're backed into a corner and someone offers you a hand, you don't look at the hand but just take it.


Yeah, about that.

Why not run to, you know, more reliable allies for help? Why did it have to be the Reapers? Of all the species they could run to for help?

I mean, come on.

EDI states that the Geth have no allies to call on for support.


Surely if the Quarians were the aggressors, they could have found support with some of the organic races. They could have at least tried. You don't just surrender yourself to the Reapers like that.

But apparently submission was preferable to extinction for them. Sounds like a runtime error to me, because EDI explicitly states she does not believe that.

And with runtime error I mean Sovereign's influence still being there.

Some of you are assuming that synthetics can simply be un-indoctrinated, while organics can't. Yet somehow I don't believe the Reapers would make it that easy for us.

Remember how the Reaper code in the Geth consensus rewrites itself? And did you notice how the roots of the code actually can't be fully eradicated?

I think it's a major clue.

And I think making peace between Geth and Quarians might end up in disaster. You know, Reaper-code-based AI uploaded into Quarian suits? Zha'til anyone?

Call me paranoid, but I think Legion is going to bite the bullet in my current playthrough.

Luckily he makes it easy for you by attacking you from behind.

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But far more poeple want the ending "fixed" that left as is.


Hate to bring up that small vocal minority thing again, but the BSN only makes up a small portion of the total amount of people who actually play the game. In fact, most people are okay with the ending, bar a small portion of the playerbase who are vocal about it. Other thing is that if it was as bad as they say, then their sales would have suffered, both with the main game and the DLCs. So far, this game has sold 4.3 million copies and the DLCs have sold well.