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[paxxton]

Rifneno wrote...

DaveTheRave05 wrote...

The discussion veered off massively. Sooo....oops.

I think everything to do with IT more or less hangs on the next DLC, if it is indeed going to be the last SP content. With everyone who's ever written Mass Effect seemingly on board, and most of the major voice actors back, it's gonna be pretty big. Whether or not it's to do with IT is kinda hard to say, though everyone is putting their hope into it. There was that tweet (can't remember who tweeted it) about Bioware planning something so big that we'd all hold on to our copies of Mass Effect 3 forever, but I think for some, it's too little too late. So yeah, everything kinda rides on this DLC whichever way you look at it.

Oh, and if ME4 is the big IT twist or something along those lines....well I'd be out of this thread and these forums pretty sharpish. Wouldn't want to see the amount of **** that would hit the fan then.

I really don't know what to think.  I've been around since about page 300 of Mk 1, and I've seen so many "omg, this is it, we're gonna get the reveal!" moments (ESPECIALLY EC, my God that sucked) that I've completely lost the ability to get my hopes up.  So I don't expect the reveal in the next DLC.  If it happens, fan-****ing-tastic.  If not, meh.

People just need to stop for a moment and think about it. ME4 as a proper IT reveal would come much later than a DLC would. That's obvious since developing a DLC is relatively easily compared to creating a full-blown game. But leaving IT for ME4 BioWare could embrace the next-gen of hardware in the upcoming consoles and create something unique and fresh, a game that would blow everyone's minds. So the initial wait would be longer but the reward could be so much greater and more satisfying. We've already been waiting almost a year. We can wait another, and one more.

Also, having more time to develop the story means that we would get more content, more missions, more consistency and hence higher level of immersion.
 
ME3 is passé.  That was a joke.

[CmdrShep80]

@rif - some reasons not to have the reveal is to preserve the mystery of the game and keep the speculation going almost endlessly

[paxxton]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@rif - some reasons not to have the reveal is to preserve the mystery of the game and keep the speculation going almost endlessly

Nah, that's not a good reason. At least not without constant supply of new SP DLCs with  exciting content to speculate on.

[paxxton]

Is it just me or the thread is in constant slow-mo these days?

[Eryri]

At the risk of reigniting the Volus controversy, I thought I'd lob this little lore grenade into the mix. Their homeworld of Irune has a surface gravity of 1.5g, so they might actually be quite strong little blighters in standard gravity, which would explain their impressive turn of speed. (Runs away and hides).

Modifié par Eryri, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:15 .

[RavenEyry]

Eryri wrote...

At the risk of reigniting the Volus controversy, I thought I'd lob this little lore grenade into the mix. Their homeworld of Irune has a surface gravity of 1.5g, so they might actually be quite strong little blighters in standard gravity, which would explain their impressive turn of speed. (Runs away and hides).

They'd be hardy but no amount of strength will make those little legs run fast, or those little arms draw back enough for a solid punch.

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

Eryri wrote...

At the risk of reigniting the Volus controversy, I thought I'd lob this little lore grenade into the mix. Their homeworld of Irune has a surface gravity of 1.5g, so they might actually be quite strong little blighters in standard gravity, which would explain their impressive turn of speed. (Runs away and hides).

They'd be hardy but no amount of strength will make those little legs run fast, or those little arms draw back enough for a solid punch.

If they move their legs fast, they can be rapid.

[RavenEyry]

They wouldn't get tired quickly, but they wouldn't be able to go fast and would be at high risk of falling over.

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

They wouldn't get tired quickly, but they wouldn't be able to go fast and would be at high risk of falling over.

Then they could use a biotic power to turn themselves into a deadly rolling ball of lightning.

[GethPrimeMKII]

I recommend not getting hopes up about this being the last DLC and having it be the revelation we've been waiting for. Part of the reason IT lost support with EC was because we pumped so much hype into it being an IT reveal.

[Eryri]

paxxton wrote...

Is it just me or the thread is in constant slow-mo these days?

I suppose it's to be expected unless Bioware gives us some juicy leaks to chew over.

At the risk of setting ourselves up for disappointment, what's on everyone's wish list for the fabled "Reveal DLC"?
 Unfortunately, people have come up with such good ideas in this thread, that Bioware will have to work really hard to top them. 

I'm rather hoping for an epic one on one "battle at the centre of the mind" with Harbinger as an evil Shepard a la Superman 3. This would stun Harbinger long enough for either Shepard, or the rest of the team under player control to storm through his insides in the real world to reach his brain, fighting his internal defenses consisting of various collectors, then extracting the access code for the Citadel relay to darkspace.

We'd then pilot the Nornmandy itself in an epic space battle and go through the portal to the dark citadel, home of the true intelligence (which by the way would actually have a half-way intelligent reason for the harvest). There we'd break into more separate teams to engineer it's destruction, all the while fighting even more collectors, before a mad dash to get back through the portal before it closes. 

It would strike a huge blow to the reapers, but not destroy them all, leaving a few to make appearances in subsequent games.

The last scene would be Shepard marrying his or her LI in Westminster Abbey, in a ceremony officiated by Her Holiness the Space Pope. Edi would catch the bouquet and give a meaningful look to an uncomfortable Jeff.

The End.

Asking too much do you think? 

Seriously though, what's everyone else hoping to see?

Modifié par Eryri, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:36 .

[paxxton]

The EC added many new clues to look for. It strengthened IT, not weakened it. Also, the DLC made IT less obvious, but nowhere near invalid.

[paxxton]

Eryri wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Is it just me or the thread is in constant slow-mo these days?

I suppose it's to be expected unless Bioware gives us some juicy leaks to chew over.

At the risk of setting ourselves up for disappointment, what's on everyone's wish list for the fabled "Reveal DLC"?
 Unfortunately, people have come up with such good ideas in this thread, that Bioware will have to work really hard to top them. 

I'm rather hoping for an epic one on one "battle at the centre of the mind" with Harbinger as an evil Shepard a la Superman 3. This would stun Harbinger long enough for either Shepard, or the rest of the team under player control to storm through his insides to reach his brain, fighting his internal defenses consisting of various collectors, then extracting the access code for the Citadel relay to darkspace.

We'd then pilot the Nornmandy itself in an epic space battle and go through the portal to the dark citadel, home of the true intelligence, where we'd break into more separate teams to engineer it's destruction, all the while fighting even more collectors, before a mad dash to get back through the portal before it closes. 

The last scene would be Shepard marrying his or her LI in Westminster Abbey, in a ceremony officiated by Her Holiness the Space Pope. Edi would catch the bouquet and give a meaningful look to an uncomfortable Jeff.

The End.

Asking too much do you think? 

Seriously though, what's everyone else hoping to see?

LOL.

I like the idea of going to Dark Space. In fact I had high hopes before the release in March that the London beam shown in the launch trailer was a portal or energy source for the Reapers in Dark Space. I also liked the idea that ME4 would concentrate on battling indoctrination in Shepard's mind, reliving his past, only distorted by Harbinger.

[GethPrimeMKII]

paxxton wrote...

The EC added many new clues to look for. It strengthened IT, not weakened it. Also, the DLC made IT less obvious, but nowhere near invalid.

From Bioware's perspective it did what it was supposed to do. It quelled the horde of blood raged fans who hated the original endings and managed not to invalidate any interpretations. 

But you have to admit we jumped the gun in expecting this to be the IT reveal. Its a good thing it wasn't IMO, because there wouldn't be much to speculate if one interpretation was declared correct so early in the DLC cycle. Players wouldn't be able to "experience what Shepard feels" if BIoware didnt commit to indoctrinating its fans. 

I will admit that it's annoying seeing people site EC and Occams Razor as reasons why IT is debunked. If they understood the theory they wouldnt be spouting so much ignorance.

[Rifneno]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@rif - some reasons not to have the reveal is to preserve the mystery of the game and keep the speculation going almost endlessly

**** that. **** it in the ass with a chainsaw. Until they give us the real conclusion, the Reapers aren't beaten. That is not acceptable.

[paxxton]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The EC added many new clues to look for. It strengthened IT, not weakened it. Also, the DLC made IT less obvious, but nowhere near invalid.

From Bioware's perspective it did what it was supposed to do. It quelled the horde of blood raged fans who hated the original endings and managed not to invalidate any interpretations. 

But you have to admit we jumped the gun in expecting this to be the IT reveal. Its a good thing it wasn't IMO, because there wouldn't be much to speculate if one interpretation was declared correct so early in the DLC cycle. Players wouldn't be able to "experience what Shepard feels" if BIoware didnt commit to indoctrinating its fans. 

I will admit that it's annoying seeing people site EC and Occams Razor as reasons why IT is debunked. If they understood the theory they wouldnt be spouting so much ignorance.

True but IIRC even before the EC I said that IT should/would be left for ME4. Can't really blame people for wanting fast answers. If it were my decision, I would realease the IT DLC right away. Or include it on the game's disc. Why can't anything be easy?

[Eryri]

Rifneno wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@rif - some reasons not to have the reveal is to preserve the mystery of the game and keep the speculation going almost endlessly

**** that. **** it in the ass with a chainsaw. Until they give us the real conclusion, the Reapers aren't beaten. That is not acceptable.

Agreed. Speculating with you guys has been terrific fun, but 9 months of not knowing is quite enough. And there will be nothing to speculate about after the last bit of ME3's dlc comes out.

I really just want to play and enjoy ME again, and I can't do that with the endings as they are, unless I know something good is coming.

Modifié par Eryri, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:47 .

[paxxton]

Eryri wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@rif - some reasons not to have the reveal is to preserve the mystery of the game and keep the speculation going almost endlessly

**** that. **** it in the ass with a chainsaw. Until they give us the real conclusion, the Reapers aren't beaten. That is not acceptable.

Agreed. Speculating with you guys has been terrific fun, but 9 months of not knowing is quite enough. And there will be nothing to speculate about after the last bit of ME3's dlc comes out.

I don't know about you guys but I heard Reapers in the Breath Scene.

[GethPrimeMKII]

My biggest concern with this cliffhanger is the crucible. We don't know what it actually does, but its pretty obvious now that its a trap. How screwed are we? Stay tuned to find out.

[Rifneno]

paxxton wrote...

True but IIRC even before the EC I said that IT should/would be left for ME4. Can't really blame people for wanting fast answers. If it were my decision, I would realease the IT DLC right away. Or include it on the game's disc. Why can't anything be easy?

Fast?  FAST?  Some of us have been waiting for the conclusion to this story since 2007.  We've been waiting 9 months since when they promised us we'd have the conclusion.  In what bizarre alternate reality is this FAST to you?  As far as I'm concerned, if they make us wait another 2 years for ME4, BW deserves to go down in the flames they set for themselves.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

DaveTheRave05 wrote...

The discussion veered off massively. Sooo....oops.

I think everything to do with IT more or less hangs on the next DLC, if it is indeed going to be the last SP content. With everyone who's ever written Mass Effect seemingly on board, and most of the major voice actors back, it's gonna be pretty big. Whether or not it's to do with IT is kinda hard to say, though everyone is putting their hope into it. There was that tweet (can't remember who tweeted it) about Bioware planning something so big that we'd all hold on to our copies of Mass Effect 3 forever, but I think for some, it's too little too late. So yeah, everything kinda rides on this DLC whichever way you look at it.

Oh, and if ME4 is the big IT twist or something along those lines....well I'd be out of this thread and these forums pretty sharpish. Wouldn't want to see the amount of **** that would hit the fan then.

I really don't know what to think.  I've been around since about page 300 of Mk 1, and I've seen so many "omg, this is it, we're gonna get the reveal!" moments (ESPECIALLY EC, my God that sucked) that I've completely lost the ability to get my hopes up.  So I don't expect the reveal in the next DLC.  If it happens, fan-****ing-tastic.  If not, meh.

People just need to stop for a moment and think about it. ME4 as a proper IT reveal would come much later than a DLC would. That's obvious since developing a DLC is relatively easily compared to creating a full-blown game. But leaving IT for ME4 BioWare could embrace the next-gen of hardware in the upcoming consoles and create something unique and fresh, a game that would blow everyone's minds. So the initial wait would be longer but the reward could be so much greater and more satisfying. We've already been waiting almost a year. We can wait another, and one more.

Also, having more time to develop the story means that we would get more content, more missions, more consistency and hence higher level of immersion.
 
ME3 is passé.  That was a joke.

Greetings, I'm back.
While this is a good idea, I don't think they'll use ME4 if they do an IT reveal. Just because since the days of ME1 Bioware has stated that Shepard's story would be a trilogy, not a quadogy or whatever it's called. Now, they can do a full-blown expansion pack and thus get passed the 2 GB DLC limit, and that way it's still a trilogy and leaves ME4 open for the new protagonist.

[paxxton]

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

True but IIRC even before the EC I said that IT should/would be left for ME4. Can't really blame people for wanting fast answers. If it were my decision, I would realease the IT DLC right away. Or include it on the game's disc. Why can't anything be easy?

Fast?  FAST?  Some of us have been waiting for the conclusion to this story since 2007.  We've been waiting 9 months since when they promised us we'd have the conclusion.  In what bizarre alternate reality is this FAST to you?  As far as I'm concerned, if they make us wait another 2 years for ME4, BW deserves to go down in the flames they set for themselves.

Well, I don't count the expected time for a game to be developed (2 years between ME1 and ME2, 2 years between ME2 and ME3) because the other games had a clear-cut endings. Sure, there was Shepard repeating constantly that the Reapers were coming but it was more of a creeping danger in ME2 than an immediate threat.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:55 .

[Eryri]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Now, they can do a full-blown expansion pack and thus get passed the 2 GB DLC limit, and that way it's still a trilogy and leaves ME4 open for the new protagonist.

That's what I'm hoping for. I'd be perfectly fine with a new protagonist in ME4, especially if we can pick their species. Just so long as Shepard gets the ending he deserves first.

Modifié par Eryri, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:56 .

[demersel]

Guys, your point is moot, since the MP - is a training sim, that prepares the troops for the front lines - anything is game in there.

[paxxton]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

DaveTheRave05 wrote...

The discussion veered off massively. Sooo....oops.

I think everything to do with IT more or less hangs on the next DLC, if it is indeed going to be the last SP content. With everyone who's ever written Mass Effect seemingly on board, and most of the major voice actors back, it's gonna be pretty big. Whether or not it's to do with IT is kinda hard to say, though everyone is putting their hope into it. There was that tweet (can't remember who tweeted it) about Bioware planning something so big that we'd all hold on to our copies of Mass Effect 3 forever, but I think for some, it's too little too late. So yeah, everything kinda rides on this DLC whichever way you look at it.

Oh, and if ME4 is the big IT twist or something along those lines....well I'd be out of this thread and these forums pretty sharpish. Wouldn't want to see the amount of **** that would hit the fan then.

I really don't know what to think.  I've been around since about page 300 of Mk 1, and I've seen so many "omg, this is it, we're gonna get the reveal!" moments (ESPECIALLY EC, my God that sucked) that I've completely lost the ability to get my hopes up.  So I don't expect the reveal in the next DLC.  If it happens, fan-****ing-tastic.  If not, meh.

People just need to stop for a moment and think about it. ME4 as a proper IT reveal would come much later than a DLC would. That's obvious since developing a DLC is relatively easily compared to creating a full-blown game. But leaving IT for ME4 BioWare could embrace the next-gen of hardware in the upcoming consoles and create something unique and fresh, a game that would blow everyone's minds. So the initial wait would be longer but the reward could be so much greater and more satisfying. We've already been waiting almost a year. We can wait another, and one more.

Also, having more time to develop the story means that we would get more content, more missions, more consistency and hence higher level of immersion.
 
ME3 is passé.  That was a joke.

Greetings, I'm back.
While this is a good idea, I don't think they'll use ME4 if they do an IT reveal. Just because since the days of ME1 Bioware has stated that Shepard's story would be a trilogy, not a quadogy or whatever it's called. Now, they can do a full-blown expansion pack and thus get passed the 2 GB DLC limit, and that way it's still a trilogy and leaves ME4 open for the new protagonist.

Sure they can. But a full game (and a change of plans) would be nice and welcome.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 décembre 2012 - 06:00 .