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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Which door on Horizon?


I don't recall which door it was, but there was a door where if you walked through it, the game would crash.

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Biggest glitch I remember was a husk getting stuck in a wall on Thessia twice. Had to do the turret section on foot to stop it happening.

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magnetite wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Which door on Horizon?


I don't recall which door it was, but there was a door where if you walked through it, the game would crash.


Happens to me all the time on Illium, when you try to go to through the door under Liara's office.
To avoid it from crashing, you have to go to Eternity Bar first.
Happened to me on two different computers at the same position!

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Destroy can never be a trap because it's the one thing Starbinger doesn't want you to pick. He's like a used car salesman trying to steer you away from the cheapest car so you can buy the expensive car because the commission would benefit him.

Unless you really think he's using reverse-psychology, and all indications seem to be he's not since he's actively steering you towards Synthesis.


Steering you towards Synthesis would be reverse-psychology.
He wants you to pick, if you pick then you're in the game and if you're in the game then you will be indoctrinated.
Because if he didn't steer towards an option then you might think all the options were false because he wasn't trying hard enough to convince you on what you thought the Reapers would want.


Unrelated;
A delusional Shepard without knowing would pick refuse and a delusional Shepard without knowing would accept choices from the Reapers.


I'm sorry, but this is the most illogical thing I've ever read, and I've seen more than a few lolcats and timecube rants in my time.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

I'm sorry, but this is the most illogical thing I've ever read, and I've seen more than a few lolcats and timecube rants in my time.

They've been trolling for ages. I gave up trying to use logic on them.

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Guys, your point is moot, since the MP - is a training sim, that prepares the troops for the front lines - anything is game in there.


its not a training sim. That would be pinnacle station. Mp is actually other characters in the spec ops team and their little battles against the forces that are out to destroy the galaxy


Despite it being improbable combinations of soldiers using improbable (or impossible) weapons, fighting enemies in warzones where they aren't, or even all mashed together...?

Either its a training sim, or its completely outside the universe canon.


It's no more non-canon than Shepard wearing Reckoner-Knight armour or pink and lime green custom armour, carrying a Geth Pulse Rifle, Collector Sniper Rifle, Raider, Blood Pack Punisher, and Cerberus Talon. With Javik carrying a Vindicator and Phalanx, Garrus carrying an Adas and Indra, Ashley wearing her casual into battling, or any number of other retarded things you can do in SP.

All MP characters are canon, and places they fight are canon, but not when you get into the specifics. There are things you can choose to do in both SP and MP that make no sense, but that doesn't make them non-canon.

And saying MP Volus can't fight because all the other Volus we've seen can't is like saying (after ME1) that Geth couldn't possibly be anything other than evil robots that want to kill everyone. Comparing regular Volus to MP Volus is like comparing regular humans to Tony Stark/Iron Man, which is pretty much exactly what these Volus are. As for increased move speed, have you ever heard of Crysis's nanosuit?

MP doesn't suck, and is actually my favourite MP game, and MP Volus do not break lore. Rif is wrong and will never admit it, because as much as I like him, that's just how he is.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 19 décembre 2012 - 08:02 .


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ME1 geth didn't have any physical impairments stopping them being non-evil.

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Restrider wrote...

magnetite wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Which door on Horizon?


I don't recall which door it was, but there was a door where if you walked through it, the game would crash.


Happens to me all the time on Illium, when you try to go to through the door under Liara's office.
To avoid it from crashing, you have to go to Eternity Bar first.
Happened to me on two different computers at the same position!

LOL. People seem to have all sorts of weird experiences with ME3.

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I will have to look for those bugs when playing ME3. Please, make a checklist for me. You can include ME2's bugs as well.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 décembre 2012 - 08:04 .


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Blur, you're never going to convince me that MP volus arent the living embodiment of stupidity.

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RavenEyry wrote...

ME1 geth didn't have any physical impairments stopping them being non-evil.


Pick any other example you like, my point is that just because we haven't heard of something doesn't make it impossible. It's like the argument that Shepard can't be being indoctrinated at the end because we have no evidence that indoctrination causes life-like hallucinations with a kid and choices (etc).

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byne wrote...

Blur, you're never going to convince me that MP volus arent the living embodiment of stupidity.

*sniff* Lost shields. Posted Image

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byne wrote...

Blur, you're never going to convince me that MP volus arent the living embodiment of stupidity.


It's not like they just throw on a little body armour, they're the Volus equivalent of Tony Stark: they're really rich (even by Volus standards) and have custom made super advanced suits, the best that can be made.

And Vorcha have space fighters, it's called adding to the lore, it doesn't break it.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 19 décembre 2012 - 08:07 .


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Best thing is still "Let's get paid." when starting an objective based round, and "By your credits." as acknowledgement.

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Let's give a real life example. In the British military people with sunken chests can only be in support roles, not front line, commandos, etc. Likewise, short fat people that die from the slightest punctures can't be chosen for special insertion missions behind the lines, but they can try to mess with enemy finances using their leet banking skills and such.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Blur, you're never going to convince me that MP volus arent the living embodiment of stupidity.


It's not like they just throw on a little body armour, they're the Volus equivalent of Tony Stark: they're really rich (even by Volus standards) and have custom made super advanced suits, the best that can be made.

And Vorcha have space fighters, it's called adding to the lore, it doesn't break it.


I didnt say they break the lore. At a stretch I could see a volus pouring ****loads of cash into a suit that could maybe work well enough to fight, but they'd be extremely stupid to do so, when said money could be better used elsewhere.

Like I said, its stupid. You could buy a ton of guns for however much cash it costs to get a volus combat suit.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

ME1 geth didn't have any physical impairments stopping them being non-evil.


Pick any other example you like, my point is that just because we haven't heard of something doesn't make it impossible. It's like the argument that Shepard can't be being indoctrinated at the end because we have no evidence that indoctrination causes life-like hallucinations with a kid and choices (etc).

Liara, no combat training, does nothing but study for 100 years, no one questions her ability in an elite squad. It all makes sense now.
To lesser extend Tali.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Best thing is still "Let's get paid." when starting an objective based round, and "By your credits." as acknowledgement.


They're certainly supposed to be funny, but they're not a joke in the way some people say they are. Vorcha and Batarians are funny too, so that's not an argument against Volus.

Not necessarily directed at you, Megumi Posted Image

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When you think about it you're always fighting the reapers no matter what faction you're up against. The collectors are easy enough to explain. Cerberus troops are indoctrinated cannon fodder, and the Reapers still retain control over a sizable population of geth. Enough to still be considered a threat.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Blur, you're never going to convince me that MP volus arent the living embodiment of stupidity.


It's not like they just throw on a little body armour, they're the Volus equivalent of Tony Stark: they're really rich (even by Volus standards) and have custom made super advanced suits, the best that can be made.

And Vorcha have space fighters, it's called adding to the lore, it doesn't break it.

Also listen to the Volus on Illium and the upgrades he wants to purchase.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Best thing is still "Let's get paid." when starting an objective based round, and "By your credits." as acknowledgement.


They're certainly supposed to be funny, but they're not a joke in the way some people say they are. Vorcha and Batarians are funny too, so that's not an argument against Volus.

Not necessarily directed at you, Megumi Posted Image

Hilarity is just inherent to who they are.

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byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Blur, you're never going to convince me that MP volus arent the living embodiment of stupidity.


It's not like they just throw on a little body armour, they're the Volus equivalent of Tony Stark: they're really rich (even by Volus standards) and have custom made super advanced suits, the best that can be made.

And Vorcha have space fighters, it's called adding to the lore, it doesn't break it.


I didnt say they break the lore. At a stretch I could see a volus pouring ****loads of cash into a suit that could maybe work well enough to fight, but they'd be extremely stupid to do so, when said money could be better used elsewhere.

Like I said, its stupid. You could buy a ton of guns for however much cash it costs to get a volus combat suit.


True, but remember, they do suck in direct combat. Everything they have going for them is super awesome gadgets and some biotics, they die in about a second.

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Lunch break!
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What have I missed?

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BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Blur, you're never going to convince me that MP volus arent the living embodiment of stupidity.


It's not like they just throw on a little body armour, they're the Volus equivalent of Tony Stark: they're really rich (even by Volus standards) and have custom made super advanced suits, the best that can be made.

And Vorcha have space fighters, it's called adding to the lore, it doesn't break it.


I didnt say they break the lore. At a stretch I could see a volus pouring ****loads of cash into a suit that could maybe work well enough to fight, but they'd be extremely stupid to do so, when said money could be better used elsewhere.

Like I said, its stupid. You could buy a ton of guns for however much cash it costs to get a volus combat suit.


True, but remember, they do suck in direct combat. Everything they have going for them is super awesome gadgets and some biotics, they die in about a second.

Yes, also again, listen to the Volus on Illium.

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

When you think about it you're always fighting the reapers no matter what faction you're up against. The collectors are easy enough to explain. Cerberus troops are indoctrinated cannon fodder, and the Reapers still retain control over a sizable population of geth. Enough to still be considered a threat.


Yep. Every single person you fight in MP is indoctrinated, and almost every single person in SP. The only non-indoctrinated people you kill in SP that I remember are the two Vorcha in the Blood Pack mission. And Mordin, Wrex, Legion and Falere if you betray them.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 19 décembre 2012 - 08:16 .