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[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Personally, I think all the "Take Earth Back" marketing was because that's all we'll be doing in ME3, that's what the post-end content will accomplish, but the rest of the galaxy will still need taking back.

Still, the focus on Earth is one of my biggest problems with the game. Up until the Reapers move the Citadel there, we have no legitimate reason for focusing on Earth to the detriment of every other part of the galaxy. Palaven went to **** at around the same time, but we dont gather fleets to take it back.

Earth really has no strategic importance, yet all the fleets gather behind you to take it back, just because thats what the trailer told them to do.

Well, we know the bulk of the reapers are there at the end, but even before that there are far more of them concentrated there than anywhere else. So that makes it the logical attack choice for the fleet.

[BleedingUranium]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Personally, I think all the "Take Earth Back" marketing was because that's all we'll be doing in ME3, that's what the post-end content will accomplish, but the rest of the galaxy will still need taking back.

Still, the focus on Earth is one of my biggest problems with the game. Up until the Reapers move the Citadel there, we have no legitimate reason for focusing on Earth to the detriment of every other part of the galaxy. Palaven went to **** at around the same time, but we dont gather fleets to take it back.

Earth really has no strategic importance, yet all the fleets gather behind you to take it back, just because thats what the trailer told them to do.

No, it's because it's where we need to go in order to hook up the Crucible to the Citadel.

Right, taking Earth back specifically isn't talked about that much before the end.

[DoomsdayDevice]

Hey Banshee, what's up with that signature? Jade?

From 'Down Under'? =P

[byne]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Right, taking Earth back specifically isn't talked about that much before the end.

Thats the entire reason you're gathering forces, though.

On Menae, you tell the Primarch, as he looks at Palaven on fire, that Earth is way worse off than his planet and he should commit forces to taking it back first. It doenst make much sense.

[DoomsdayDevice]

BleedingUranium wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Personally, I think all the "Take Earth Back" marketing was because that's all we'll be doing in ME3, that's what the post-end content will accomplish, but the rest of the galaxy will still need taking back.

Still, the focus on Earth is one of my biggest problems with the game. Up until the Reapers move the Citadel there, we have no legitimate reason for focusing on Earth to the detriment of every other part of the galaxy. Palaven went to **** at around the same time, but we dont gather fleets to take it back.

Earth really has no strategic importance, yet all the fleets gather behind you to take it back, just because thats what the trailer told them to do.

No, it's because it's where we need to go in order to hook up the Crucible to the Citadel.

Right, taking Earth back specifically isn't talked about that much before the end.

Yeah, Shepard does go to get help for Earth though, but it's safe to say that if the Citadel was anywhere else, we'd go there instead.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 21 décembre 2012 - 01:55 .

[masster blaster]

OMG zombies are attacking my friends house!.

[spotlessvoid]

I want that new dlc NOW

[Rifneno]

masster blaster wrote...

OMG zombies are attacking my friends house!.

Relax.  Just pretend you already believe in whatever religion they're selling and they'll go away.

[lex0r11]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Hey Banshee, what's up with that signature? Jade?

From 'Down Under'? =P

You should see the whole pictures. It's brilliant.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

OMG zombies are attacking my friends house!.

Neat.

[spotlessvoid]

Zom

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 21 décembre 2012 - 01:57 .

[masster blaster]

They they they....just took out a cop car oh my....one spotted me guys M???fmfklkl

[Rifneno]

masster blaster wrote...

They they they....just took out a cop car oh my....one spotted me guys M???fmfklkl

Huh... I think being zombified has improved masster's typing.

...  I should go.

[lex0r11]

spotlessvoid wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

OMG zombies are attacking my friends house!.

Those are teenage girls masster

Who still have one last 'special' thing on their bucket list unchecked.

[spotlessvoid]

I wonder how many idiots will die typing on their computers

[BleedingUranium]

masster blaster wrote...

They they they....just took out a cop car oh my....one spotted me guys M???fmfklkl

You're whining like a Quarian with a tummy ache! Go kill them!

[spotlessvoid]

This should be a word:

M???fmfklkl

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

They they they....just took out a cop car oh my....one spotted me guys M???fmfklkl

You're whining like a Quarian with a tummy ache! Go kill them!

I love that line.  Tali is just in disbelief that Shepard said it with her standing right there.

[DoomsdayDevice]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I wonder how many idiots will die typing on their computers

Heh, it's like you read my mind.

[spotlessvoid]

lex0r11 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

OMG zombies are attacking my friends house!.

Those are teenage girls masster

Who still have one last 'special' thing on their bucket list unchecked.

German hard candy?

[Hrothdane]

Was just reading tvtropes and ended up on this most interesting page....

[Dwailing]

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I just want to say one last thing before I call it a night. Since we've brought up the kid, has anyone thought about what the kid on Earth could actually represent? I mean, besides Shepard's guilt. Here's my hypothesis.

The kid is a hallucination from the start, and his dialogue is meant to symbolize that Sheoard is not ready to be fully indoctrinated. Yet. Think about it. Probably the main kid line is, "You can't help me." This could mean that Shepard is not yet ready. What does the kid then do when you see him at th end? He asks Shepard to help him find a new solution. Remember, it's, "We find a new solution," not, "You find a new solution." The kid is telling Shepard to do that which the kid did not permit before, give him help. And right after that? He talks about Destroy, how bad it is, and how it's not a solution to the kid's problem. It doesn't "help" him, which would be a big deal, subconsciously, to Shepard, who still blames himself for not being able to help the kid, as shown by the dreams.

Again, think back. What's the first thing Shepard says after hearing the kid describe Destroy? "There must be another way." Now, it's possible that Shepard is starting to reconsider wanting to destroy the Reapers because of the geth and EDI, but I think another part of it is that he doesn't want to "fail" the kid again.

Now, there might be one final layer here. It has to do with Synthesis. This, as we all know, is the kid's preferred ending. His final solution (See what I did there? Gotta love Godwin's Law.). Now, there's really not much more I can say beyond this. The kid gives the option because he knows Shepard doesn't want to fail him. And in Control, Shepard is still going to replace him. It's quite possible that Shepard is now having a hard time deciding what to do because he knows that either way, the kid ceases to exist. So, in order to speed Shepard on his merry, indoctrinated way, the kid gives a third choice. A choice where the kid does not die, and Shepard helps him to achieve his "perfect" solution. A choice custom tailored for Shepard, who more than anything else, at least at first, just longs for a chance to go back and help that poor boy from Earth.

Now, I apologize if this gets difficult to follow at any point. It IS 12:41 am here, and I'm rather tired. I just figured I should share this since it's been bouncing around in my head for a bit. I think tomorrow I'll put it in the form of a blog post, which will help me to refine it a bit.

Edit: YES!  Top with a great (I think) post that's on topic!  And it's a wall of text (At least on my phone), too.

I'm just reposting this since I really want opinions on this.

[spotlessvoid]

Hrothdane wrote...

Was just reading tvtropes and ended up on this most interesting page....

Carrie

[DoomsdayDevice]

Hrothdane wrote...

Was just reading tvtropes and ended up on this most interesting page....

Yeah, too bad Sith lords use red lightsabres.

[Dwailing]

lex0r11 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

OMG zombies are attacking my friends house!.

Those are teenage girls masster

Who still have one last 'special' thing on their bucket list unchecked.

You know what?  If the world's going to end, to quote Jack, "I'm gonna get laid."  Honestly, it's the only way to go out, if there's no hope for survival.  Of course, since the world isn't going to end, I don't think that's going to happen... and now I feel awkward for posting this.