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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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#71001
Restrider

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Eryri wrote...

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Submission = Refuse?
I think that is plainly wrong.
Refuse is militantly anti-submissive to the extent that you (in literal POV) refuse to use any option the Guardian/Reapers present you with and in the end you doom the galaxy.


I must admit I have a soft spot for Refuse. I like the way it rejects the catalyst's entire philosophy that organic / synthetic conflict is inevitable. If it wasn't for the slightly spiteful "you lose" epilogue, and lack of a breath scene it would be my favourite. At the moment though, high EMS destroy still edges it for me.

A breath scene in Refuse would totally give away that there is something fishy going on.
But I have to agree with Rifneno, who said that even then, most people would not believe in any form of IT.
If we are honest, a Refuse breath scene would only be a little bit more ridiculous than the Destroy breath scene.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Anyone here played DAO?

Amazing game Posted Image


only beat it once, it´s really incredible, i love my renegade warden
but i suck a it, even on easy, so i dont play it anymore

Modifié par Fur28, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:17 .


#71003
Hanako Ikezawa

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Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

demersel wrote...

By the way, Mass effect 3 won IGN's best RPG, and Gametrailer's best soundtrack (YAY!) ))

That's awesome! I'm so happy for them!


btw: do you prefer the one on top or this one for happy reactions:


the one on top it´s kind of annoying, so the bottom one

I like the bottom one more too, just trying another for the sake of diversity. It'll be the bottom one from now on.

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Happy end of the world all, any interesting discussions happen today?

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byne wrote...
DA:O is ****ing fantastic.


ASTERISKS?!!!  Careful, you can get banned from Xbox Live for that kind of language!  :lol:

Also, DAO was a great game.  Played it and all the DLC (even Darkspawn, damned OCD).  Not as good as BG2 n my opinion though.  But then... what is?

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Fur28 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Anyone here played DAO?

Amazing game Posted Image


only beat it once, it´s really incredible, i love my renegade warden
but i suck a it, even on easy, so i dont play it anymore


I suck at it too. I usually use the Duncan level up glitch and also use the item dupe glitch to get tons of mortal vessel tomes.

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byne wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Anyone here played DAO?

Amazing game Posted Image


DA:O is ****ing fantastic.



Gud games, gud game.


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ElSuperGecko wrote...

byne wrote...
DA:O is ****ing fantastic.


ASTERISKS?!!!  Careful, you can get banned from Xbox Live for that kind of language!  :lol:

Also, DAO was a great game.  Played it and all the DLC (even Darkspawn, damned OCD).  Not as good as BG2 n my opinion though.  But then... what is?


I've never played any Baldurs Gate games. I should some time.

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Sandal is Commander Shepard in disguise. He even used the M-622 Avalanche in the Deep Roads in DA2.

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Rifneno wrote...

Sandal is Commander Shepard in disguise. He even used the M-622 Avalanche in the Deep Roads in DA2.


Plot twist!

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Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

demersel wrote...

By the way, Mass effect 3 won IGN's best RPG, and Gametrailer's best soundtrack (YAY!) ))

That's awesome! I'm so happy for them!
http://ts4.mm.bing.n...695623&pid=15.1

btw: do you prefer the one on top or this one for happy reactions:
http://ts4.mm.bing.n...529803&pid=15.1


the one on top it´s kind of annoying, so the bottom one

Nah, the top one is more expressive. The bottom one is weird.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:26 .


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Rifneno wrote...

Sandal is Commander Shepard in disguise. He even used the M-622 Avalanche in the Deep Roads in DA2.

He also experiences visions of what the future will hold, just like Commander Shepard.

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paxxton wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

demersel wrote...
By the way, Mass effect 3 won IGN's best RPG, and Gametrailer's best soundtrack (YAY!) ))

That's awesome! I'm so happy for them!
btw: do you prefer the one on top or this one for happy reactions:

the one on top it´s kind of annoying, so the bottom one

Nah, the top one is more expressive. The bottom one is weird.

That's one for top and one for bottom. You guys aren't making this easy on me.

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I wonder if destroy killed my robot dog...

That would be sad.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

demersel wrote...
By the way, Mass effect 3 won IGN's best RPG, and Gametrailer's best soundtrack (YAY!) ))

That's awesome! I'm so happy for them!
btw: do you prefer the one on top or this one for happy reactions:

the one on top it´s kind of annoying, so the bottom one

Nah, the top one is more expressive. The bottom one is weird.

That's one for top and one for bottom. You guys aren't making this easy on me.


The top one looks like he's genuinely happy, the bottom one looks more like he's hopefully anticipating something.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

demersel wrote...
By the way, Mass effect 3 won IGN's best RPG, and Gametrailer's best soundtrack (YAY!) ))

That's awesome! I'm so happy for them!
btw: do you prefer the one on top or this one for happy reactions:

the one on top it´s kind of annoying, so the bottom one

Nah, the top one is more expressive. The bottom one is weird.

That's one for top and one for bottom. You guys aren't making this easy on me.

Hello my name is Mr.Sanchez a friend of Fur a i say the bottom one is better
Fur28: thank you Mr.Sanchez

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Fur28 wrote...

Hello my name is Mr.Sanchez a friend of Fur a i say the bottom one is better
Fur28: thank you Mr.Sanchez


He clearly isnt your friend if you arent on a first name basis, Fur. No cheating.

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byne wrote...

I wonder if destroy killed my robot dog...

That would be sad.

Again, CE-exclusive content. At least it wasn't worth the extra bucks, unlike the hoodie to some extent. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:34 .


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Restrider wrote...

A breath scene in Refuse would totally give away that there is something fishy going on.
But I have to agree with Rifneno, who said that even then, most people would not believe in any form of IT.
If we are honest, a Refuse breath scene would only be a little bit more ridiculous than the Destroy breath scene.


Good points. Perhaps we've only seen a premature version of Refuse?

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byne wrote...
The top one looks like he's genuinely happy, the bottom one looks more like he's hopefully anticipating something.

I see what you mean, and I can work with that. For example, top pic if Mass Effect wins something, and bottom pic when Bioware teases us with info. Is that what you mean?

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Restrider wrote...

Submission = Refuse?
I think that is plainly wrong.
Refuse is militantly anti-submissive to the extent that you (in literal POV) refuse to use any option the Guardian/Reapers present you with and in the end you doom the galaxy.


I think that the fact that the Starchild speaks will Harbinger's voice if we refuse is what we get in lieu of the breath--the only way that Shepard can defeat indoctrination is to cling to her belief that the Reapers must be destroyed.  Refuse is a decision to do nothing, which could defeat the part of Shepard that is being currently influenced by Harbinger.  The fact that the Starchild speaks in Harbinger's voice suggests that he is directly involved in this conversation, at any rate, as does the Starchild's use of the word "us" when discussing the Reapers' destruction, as noted by others.

It's also worth noting that the campaign completion achievements "Legend" and "Insanity" will not pop if you choose Refuse.

#71022
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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

byne wrote...
The top one looks like he's genuinely happy, the bottom one looks more like he's hopefully anticipating something.

I see what you mean, and I can work with that. For example, top pic if Mass Effect wins something, and bottom pic when Bioware teases us with info. Is that what you mean?


Pretty much, yeah.

#71023
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byne wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

Hello my name is Mr.Sanchez a friend of Fur a i say the bottom one is better
Fur28: thank you Mr.Sanchez


He clearly isnt your friend if you arent on a first name basis, Fur. No cheating.

i have the upmost respect towards Mr. Federico Sanchez Flores, and calling him for his first name is an insult to his Grandfather who fought in the war to gain that Last Name

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byne wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

Hello my name is Mr.Sanchez a friend of Fur a i say the bottom one is better
Fur28: thank you Mr.Sanchez


He clearly isnt your friend if you arent on a first name basis, Fur. No cheating.

Maybe Mister is his first name. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:36 .


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Fur28 wrote...

byne wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

Hello my name is Mr.Sanchez a friend of Fur a i say the bottom one is better
Fur28: thank you Mr.Sanchez


He clearly isnt your friend if you arent on a first name basis, Fur. No cheating.

i have the upmost respect towards Mr. Federico Sanchez Flores, and calling him for his first name is an insult to his Grandfather who fought in the war to gain that Last Name


So you call him by his middle name? Your story isnt adding up here.