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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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BleedingUranium

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

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I admit it's inconsistant, but I'm still not sold on the idea.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

So would anyone recommend buying the dlc for me3 knowing that the ending is still horrendously bad and may not be fixed?


I would! Remember, they're only terrible from a certain point of view. We need more content, but not to complete the ending per se. We're not done the story in the same way ME2 didn't finish the story.

Perhaps i will then, hopefully the ending is rectified though. Preferably with IT

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I admit it's inconsistant, but I'm still not sold on the idea.


It's looking more and more consistent to me.

To be honest, I've always felt that letting him use the code was wrong. I've always had an uneasy feeling about it, ever since my first playthrough. The only reason I always did it was to have peace.

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Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.

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Gingerbread Man says it best:
http://ts4.mm.bing.n...817043&pid=15.1

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:08 .


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I'm popping some more painkillers and try to play some more SP. I'm going crazy looking at this computer screen. xD

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Rifneno wrote...

Regardless, the point was that they go so out of their way to NOT provide answers with that terrible, terrible DLC that they actually even withhold information from the player that the player's character gets. That's asinine.

Regardless the point is that it is inferred that it points the Warden to where she presumably is in DA3. And a way for the Warden to follow, else she wouldn't need to comment on that.

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Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


I never got the people who sympathized with the quarians.

"They attempted genocide for no reason at all, but it backfired! Poor them!"

No, not poor them. They got what they deserved.

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Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


It's not about who's the agressor in this conflict. I agree that the Quarians are the bad guys.

It's about the Geth being compromised. Not about 'who do you like better'.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Regardless, the point was that they go so out of their way to NOT provide answers with that terrible, terrible DLC that they actually even withhold information from the player that the player's character gets. That's asinine.

Regardless the point is that it is inferred that it points the Warden to where she presumably is in DA3. And a way for the Warden to follow, else she wouldn't need to comment on that.


No.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


It's not about who's the agressor in this conflict. I agree that the Quarians are the bad guys.

It's about the Geth being compromised. Not about 'who do you like better'.


If they're compromised, why did Legion, clearly the most compromised of all of them, fight against the Reapers?

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


I never got the people who sympathized with the quarians.

"They attempted genocide for no reason at all, but it backfired! Poor them!"

No, not poor them. They got what they deserved.


QFT.  I'm still annoyed that there's no way to execute the three admirals that were pro-war.

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


I never got the people who sympathized with the quarians.

"They attempted genocide for no reason at all, but it backfired! Poor them!"

No, not poor them. They got what they deserved.

But they are only machines...
and machines can be broken :devil:

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


I never got the people who sympathized with the quarians.

"They attempted genocide for no reason at all, but it backfired! Poor them!"

No, not poor them. They got what they deserved.

But they are only machines...
and machines can be broken :devil:


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MegumiAzusa wrote...
But they are only machines...
and machines can be broken :devil:

My Solo-Uber-Geth-Tooper disagrees :P

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byne wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


It's not about who's the agressor in this conflict. I agree that the Quarians are the bad guys.

It's about the Geth being compromised. Not about 'who do you like better'.


If they're compromised, why did Legion, clearly the most compromised of all of them, fight against the Reapers?


Legion doesn't know he's compromised. (Just like everyone else who is indoctrinated) He does everything with the best of intentions. The key here is that, once again, we're using the Reapers' gifts. It's all in the name of peace between synthetics and organics, but by using the Reaper code, we pave the road to hell with good intentions, and the Reapers will have the last laugh.

My theory is that the Reaper code in the Geth will rewrite itself over time. (We know that it can) At some point, the Geth who are uploaded into the suits of the Quarians, will take control of the Quarian bodies.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:18 .


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So... what weapon do you have in the decision chamber? Is it a Predator or a Carnifex?

I know that there is some weapon swapping, but with what weapon do you shoot the Guardian to trigger Refuse?

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

byne wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


It's not about who's the agressor in this conflict. I agree that the Quarians are the bad guys.

It's about the Geth being compromised. Not about 'who do you like better'.


If they're compromised, why did Legion, clearly the most compromised of all of them, fight against the Reapers?


Legion doesn't know he's compromised. (Just like everyone else who is indoctrinated) He does everything with the best of intentions. The key here is that, once again, we're using the Reapers' gifts. It's all in the name of peace between synthetics and organics, but by using the Reaper code, we pave the road to hell with good intentions.

My theory is that the Reaper code in the Geth will rewrite itself over time. (We know that it can) At some point, the Geth who are uploaded into the suits of the Quarians, will take control of the Quarian bodies.


Right.  Completely sabotaging their own plans in Rannoch was the Reaper's own work for their dastardly master plan to assume direct control of some quarian nerve stim programs.  Seems legit.

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Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
--snip--


So... what weapon do you have in the decision chamber? Is it a Predator or a Carnifex?

I know that there is some weapon swapping, but with what weapon do you shoot the Guardian to trigger Refuse?


The decision room weapon is a Carnipredifexator.

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Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
--snip--


So... what weapon do you have in the decision chamber? Is it a Predator or a Carnifex?

I know that there is some weapon swapping, but with what weapon do you shoot the Guardian to trigger Refuse?


The Carnifex. It only turns into a Predator when shooting the tube.

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@DoomsdayDevice: Are you going to cause trouble today?

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

byne wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


It's not about who's the agressor in this conflict. I agree that the Quarians are the bad guys.

It's about the Geth being compromised. Not about 'who do you like better'.


If they're compromised, why did Legion, clearly the most compromised of all of them, fight against the Reapers?


Legion doesn't know he's compromised. (Just like everyone else who is indoctrinated) He does everything with the best of intentions. The key here is that, once again, we're using the Reapers' gifts. It's all in the name of peace between synthetics and organics, but by using the Reaper code, we pave the road to hell with good intentions.

My theory is that the Reaper code in the Geth will rewrite itself over time. (We know that it can) At some point, the Geth who are uploaded into the suits of the Quarians, will take control of the Quarian bodies.

The upgrade code is only based off Reaper code, it's not an exact duplicate and thus not Reaper code. Think of it like the dinosaur DNA in Jurrasic Park. The DNA used is only based off dinosaur DNA, but also uses frog DNA, thus it's not dinosaur DNA.

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MegumiAzusa

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Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Regardless, the point was that they go so out of their way to NOT provide answers with that terrible, terrible DLC that they actually even withhold information from the player that the player's character gets. That's asinine.

Regardless the point is that it is inferred that it points the Warden to where she presumably is in DA3. And a way for the Warden to follow, else she wouldn't need to comment on that.


No.

Yes.

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DoomsdayDevice

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Rifneno wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

byne wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Because letting the quarians murder every single geth, who were NEVER the aggressors in their conflict, is clearly the better choice.


It's not about who's the agressor in this conflict. I agree that the Quarians are the bad guys.

It's about the Geth being compromised. Not about 'who do you like better'.


If they're compromised, why did Legion, clearly the most compromised of all of them, fight against the Reapers?


Legion doesn't know he's compromised. (Just like everyone else who is indoctrinated) He does everything with the best of intentions. The key here is that, once again, we're using the Reapers' gifts. It's all in the name of peace between synthetics and organics, but by using the Reaper code, we pave the road to hell with good intentions.

My theory is that the Reaper code in the Geth will rewrite itself over time. (We know that it can) At some point, the Geth who are uploaded into the suits of the Quarians, will take control of the Quarian bodies.


Right.  Completely sabotaging their own plans in Rannoch was the Reaper's own work for their dastardly master plan to assume direct control of some quarian nerve stim programs.  Seems legit.


Yeah, take out two enemy factions by turning both of them to your side, with the added surprise of being completely trusted by their allies.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

The upgrade code is only based off Reaper code, it's not an exact duplicate and thus not Reaper code. Think of it like the dinosaur DNA in Jurrasic Park. The DNA used is only based off dinosaur DNA, but also uses frog DNA, thus it's not dinosaur DNA.


Yeah, but we know Reaper code can rewrite itself.

paxxton wrote...

@DoomsdayDevice: Are you going to cause trouble today?


When do I ever cause trouble? :mellow:

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:24 .