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[DoomsdayDevice]

paxxton wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@DoomsdayDevice: Are you going to cause trouble today?

When do I ever cause trouble?

It's a joke. Based on your BSN name today seems like a perfect day to start.

lol

I already did

[MegumiAzusa]

Dwailing wrote...

Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


No, it was confirmed by flycam, it turns into a Predator during the explosion.

To be more precise: it renders both models. You can see both the Carnifex AND the Predator rendered at the same time, although the Predator is more visible.

If that is true, I would consider it as a glitch. Let's be honest, there are glitches and not everything is IT proof.

It might be a glitch, but the question is, why use the Predator noise in the first place?  The Carnifex noise is awesome on it's own, it doesn't need Predator sound effects overlayed on it to give it the punch for that scene.  That would be like overlaying the sound of a Beretta on a Desert Eagle being fired.

The sounds are not created by the weapon but a special sound file plays.

[DoomsdayDevice]

Right, I'm off to play some SP, guys.

I'll spare you my Geth theories for now.

[Restrider]

Rifneno wrote...

Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


No, it was confirmed by flycam, it turns into a Predator during the explosion.

To be more precise: it renders both models. You can see both the Carnifex AND the Predator rendered at the same time, although the Predator is more visible.

If that is true, I would consider it as a glitch. Let's be honest, there are glitches and not everything is IT proof.

And you'd be wrong.  The game is programmed to load the predator's model into the system RAM when you go to destroy.  Only destroy.  It's intentional.

I wouldn't go so far to call it intentional.
Sure, it is coded that way that the Predator has to be loaded into the RAM in the only scene where you actually use a gun. I have no idea how the development of that scene was exactly, how many different versions were made and merged and how thoroughly the QA was (taking into account other glitches of the game, such as the Journal, it was not 100% thorough). But I personally would not count it as 100 % intentional.
I'll have to use Megumi's favourite line here. We simply do not know.

Does this debunk IT? No.
Could it be indeed intentional? Yes, I just think it is unlikely.

[401 Kill]

paxxton wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@DoomsdayDevice: Are you going to cause trouble today?

When do I ever cause trouble?

It's a joke. Based on your BSN name today seems like a perfect day to start.

If there ever was a Doomsday. It would've been today...

"It would've been today.":crying:

[Dwailing]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Yeah, that is what we keep telling ourselves. But Reaper code can rewrite itself.

lolwut.  Are you talking about during the geth consensus mission?  Where the geth were still hooked up to an actual, live Reaper?  Big mystery why the code would come back.

That IS a good point.

The question is if the Reaper is needed for the code to rewrite itself.

Yeah.

I'm just seeing some patterns here. I know my opinion isn't popular, and I'm not 100% on it, but there's too much in the way of being completely similar to synthesis for me to ignore it.

Maybe the parallels are there to show the difference between good Synthesis and what we see in the ending.  Because the concept of Synthesis is not a bad one.  It's just the way it's done in the ending that's horrible galactic genetic rape.

[Rifneno]

Restrider wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


No, it was confirmed by flycam, it turns into a Predator during the explosion.

To be more precise: it renders both models. You can see both the Carnifex AND the Predator rendered at the same time, although the Predator is more visible.

If that is true, I would consider it as a glitch. Let's be honest, there are glitches and not everything is IT proof.

And you'd be wrong.  The game is programmed to load the predator's model into the system RAM when you go to destroy.  Only destroy.  It's intentional.

I wouldn't go so far to call it intentional.

I would.  I did.  I will again.  It's intentional.

[CoolioThane]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


No, it was confirmed by flycam, it turns into a Predator during the explosion.

To be more precise: it renders both models. You can see both the Carnifex AND the Predator rendered at the same time, although the Predator is more visible.

If that is true, I would consider it as a glitch. Let's be honest, there are glitches and not everything is IT proof.

It might be a glitch, but the question is, why use the Predator noise in the first place?  The Carnifex noise is awesome on it's own, it doesn't need Predator sound effects overlayed on it to give it the punch for that scene.  That would be like overlaying the sound of a Beretta on a Desert Eagle being fired.

The sounds are not created by the weapon but a special sound file plays.

So? The point still stands

[paxxton]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@DoomsdayDevice: Are you going to cause trouble today?

When do I ever cause trouble?

It's a joke. Based on your BSN name today seems like a perfect day to start.

lol

I already did

Hah. Moderators were obviously indifferent to you warning everyone of the Apocalypse.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:51 .

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


No, it was confirmed by flycam, it turns into a Predator during the explosion.

To be more precise: it renders both models. You can see both the Carnifex AND the Predator rendered at the same time, although the Predator is more visible.

If that is true, I would consider it as a glitch. Let's be honest, there are glitches and not everything is IT proof.

And you'd be wrong.  The game is programmed to load the predator's model into the system RAM when you go to destroy.  Only destroy.  It's intentional.

Correct. It can't be unintentional, and it loads the Predator at the exact same moment the shockwave from the Destroy tube passes over it. It's clearly visible even without flycam.

[paxxton]

401 Kill wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@DoomsdayDevice: Are you going to cause trouble today?

When do I ever cause trouble?

It's a joke. Based on your BSN name today seems like a perfect day to start.

If there ever was a Doomsday. It would've been today...

"It would've been today.":crying:

Poor you. Didn't get your doomsday.

Here, have a cookie.

[Dwailing]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


No, it was confirmed by flycam, it turns into a Predator during the explosion.

To be more precise: it renders both models. You can see both the Carnifex AND the Predator rendered at the same time, although the Predator is more visible.

If that is true, I would consider it as a glitch. Let's be honest, there are glitches and not everything is IT proof.

It might be a glitch, but the question is, why use the Predator noise in the first place?  The Carnifex noise is awesome on it's own, it doesn't need Predator sound effects overlayed on it to give it the punch for that scene.  That would be like overlaying the sound of a Beretta on a Desert Eagle being fired.

The sounds are not created by the weapon but a special sound file plays.

I know that.  My point is that adding the sound of the Predator makes no sense unless there's some other purpose, like hinting that the Carnifex that Shepard is using isn't real.  The only other time I remember a sound effect being changed like that is in the scene where Wrex attacks Shepard on the Citadel if you didn't cure the Genophage.  They use the sound of the Graal Spike Thrower instead of the sound of the Claymore.  Why?  I don't know, maybe it's because they thought the sound of Spike Thrower had more punch in that scene.  However, I'm fairly certain, while this IS subjective, that the Carnifex sound has more than enough punch to carry that scene on it's own.

[BleedingUranium]

The first four shots are Carnifex shots, and the rest, from the moment Shepard straightens up and does the heroic face, are Predator shots. The gun changes into a Predator the moment the shockwave passes over it. Shepard also vanishes then, it's symbolic of leaving the dream.

[401 Kill]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Correct. It can't be unintentional, and it loads the Predator at the exact same moment the shockwave from the Destroy tube passes over it. It's clearly visible even without flycam.

Mans like many things, it makes absolutely no sense for this to happen in literal. The sound even starts out as a Carnifex, and morphs into a Predetor as the tube starts to explode. 

[401 Kill]

BleedingUranium wrote...

The first four shots are Carnifex shots, and the rest, from the moment Shepard straightens up and does the heroic face, are Predator shots. The gun changes into a Predator the moment the shockwave passes over it. Shepard also vanishes then, it's symbolic of leaving the dream.

I agree with this fully.

[MegumiAzusa]

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Restrider wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


No, it was confirmed by flycam, it turns into a Predator during the explosion.

To be more precise: it renders both models. You can see both the Carnifex AND the Predator rendered at the same time, although the Predator is more visible.

If that is true, I would consider it as a glitch. Let's be honest, there are glitches and not everything is IT proof.

It might be a glitch, but the question is, why use the Predator noise in the first place?  The Carnifex noise is awesome on it's own, it doesn't need Predator sound effects overlayed on it to give it the punch for that scene.  That would be like overlaying the sound of a Beretta on a Desert Eagle being fired.

The sounds are not created by the weapon but a special sound file plays.

So? The point still stands

Just giving additional information.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's done! The written part is finally done! All I have to do is add the pictures and it is complete!

[paxxton]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

It's done! The written part is finally done! All I have to do is add the pictures and it is complete!

What's "it"?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

It's done! The written part is finally done! All I have to do is add the pictures and it is complete!

What's "it"?

The huge comparison project that I've spent the past few weeks on for BSN.

[BleedingUranium]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Just giving additional information.

Oh, did you mean the shots aren't connected to the gun firing, but added in manually, like voice dubbing?

[BleedingUranium]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

It's done! The written part is finally done! All I have to do is add the pictures and it is complete!

What's "it"?

The huge comparison project that I've spent the past few weeks on for BSN.

Nice! Good job

[paxxton]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

It's done! The written part is finally done! All I have to do is add the pictures and it is complete!

What's "it"?

The huge comparison project that I've spent the past few weeks on for BSN.

Very nice. Looking forward to it.

[MegumiAzusa]

BleedingUranium wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Just giving additional information.

Oh, did you mean the shots aren't connected to the gun firing, but added in manually, like voice dubbing?

Yes.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

It's done! The written part is finally done! All I have to do is add the pictures and it is complete!

What's "it"?

The huge comparison project that I've spent the past few weeks on for BSN.

Very nice. Looking forward to it.

BleedingUranium wrote...
Nice! Good job

Thanks. like I said, I still have to hunt down pictures to help illustrate rthe points so I have a couple-few hours to go, but the hard part is over. I hope you guys will enjoy it, and it comes with a special announcement when it's done.

Edit: Yeah, top with my project nearly completed. This is surely an auspicious day.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 22 décembre 2012 - 12:22 .

[BleedingUranium]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Just giving additional information.

Oh, did you mean the shots aren't connected to the gun firing, but added in manually, like voice dubbing?

Yes.

Cool! I didn't know that  Definitely intentional then.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 22 décembre 2012 - 12:19 .