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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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So I completed the operation. It was easy, and I notice they used the present from Vancouver for the mission objectives.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

At least wait 136 more pages. I want to see page 3,000 first


It'll be page 7508!

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demersel wrote...

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Dwailing wrote...

Oh just drop the frakking thing the BOTH of you.  You're BOTH equally to blame here.  Rif, you've been a jerk to Megumi before, but I agree that there's no excuse for what Megumi said before.  Megumi, you've taken a lot of crap, but in many ways, you ended up bringing this upon yourself.  So, if you two want to engage in pointless argumentation, TAKE IT TO PM!


I second this. Feel free to disagree about IT and Mass Effect points all day, but pleas do not post personal attacks here. If you want to do that, PM.


I vote they should make out or something.. :D


lol reminds me of the c&c intro. *slap* ...*slap*.... Kiss 

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masster blaster wrote...

So I completed the operation. It was easy, and I notice they used the present from Vancouver for the mission objectives.


So cool! I love the presents! And "Hero Of The Last Days" is the coolest banner so far!

Also, someone on PC needs to take a good screenshot of one of the MP indoctrination devices with a present model. It's so fittingPosted Image

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Blaster's right. Lets all just kill our slefs and start over. I think I'm going to kill my slef with kindness. Or a chainsaw. Regardless, when killing one's slef, it's important to make it personal. Begin.

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Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Oh just drop the frakking thing the BOTH of you.  You're BOTH equally to blame here.  Rif, you've been a jerk to Megumi before, but I agree that there's no excuse for what Megumi said before.  Megumi, you've taken a lot of crap, but in many ways, you ended up bringing this upon yourself.  So, if you two want to engage in pointless argumentation, TAKE IT TO PM!


I second this. Feel free to disagree about IT and Mass Effect points all day, but pleas do not post personal attacks here. If you want to do that, PM.


And that's exactly why I keep telling her to leave me the hell alone.  I will not be friendly to a piece of trash that made things personal in the way she did.  She can straight to hell.  And if you think she's got a right to keep pestering me after it, you can go right along with her as far as I'm concerned.


She has no right to keep pestering you, but if you don't want to listen to her, than don't frakking reply to her.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Anyone can and should be able to post anything to anyone as long as it's IT related. If it's a personal attack it doesn't belong here. Be professional, both of you.


speaking of IT I have both art books. When I'm done with what I'm doing I'll look for the dreadnaught pics you posted earlier and see if I can find them


How are the art books?  I was considering getting another.  Only have that trial-sized one that came with the collector's edition at the moment, but it's nice.

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I completed Arrival. And i have to say, that anyone who thinks that Shepard is not undergoing the process of indoctrination thoughout ME3 is an idiot.

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What if Legion was "We are not Legion" or Geth VI instead? Would you people still trust it to upload the Reaper code?

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

And I find this notion that I am basing this on nothing but wild 'what if' scenarios to be a little unfair and even a little insulting. No offense, but I have several times posted lists of arguments that were very valid, and didn't get addressed by anyone. Acting like I base this on nothing is really unfair, especailly when I address every single point everyone ever makes, and most of you ignore most of my points.

Just look at the replies I made to Dwailing and Byne earlier. Nobody asnwered my questions or addressed these arguments.


It seems Legion's puppy eye made fools of some people. Oh well, trusting another being is always a matter of faith anyway. And the long-term ramifications of that decision are uncertain at the best (as it is with several other things like curing Genophage or saving Rachni again).

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Has something of interest happened in the last 24 hours?

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Very funny spot. Yes if it came down to that I would.

Anyways what I always found weird was that the kid/ leader of the Reapers said the chaos/ the cycle will start all over. Soon your children will create Synthetics, and the cycle will begin again.

Yet this does not happen in Destroy. Everything that the brat tells us about what is going to happen happens in all three endings, except Destroy. Why is it that?

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

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Not to make this go on longer, but I was just thinking of this. 

you know what's scary?  If I take Shepard and jump into the pit called synthesis, then these two will have green circuits and like each other for all eternity never again to disagree with each other. 

Sooo I guess what I'm saying is enjoy the discussion and difference of opinions and the uniqueness of perspective. Right or wrong really doesn't matter but as long as you can come to an equitable end else because someone might be tempted to resolve it for you by jumping into a pit of synthesis thinking that's what you want


requoting cause it could happen


Really good point, but then again it would just be another example of the complete stagnation and homogenization.

Regarding that one o the reasons this cycle actually stands a chance is because of the differences in the races, that we were not united. This becomes clear when talking to Javik who mentions how the fact that the Protheans had conquored or destroyed all others, leaving only one goverment quickly turned against them.

The Reapers learned their strategies, their tech and adapted to it and the Protheans were immediately on a massive disadvantage.

But this cycle has a dozen species with different tactics, strategies, tech and ways to wage war and we are doing better.

Its a theme of the series as well, especially ME2 and ME3.

The team Shepard gathers in ME2 is diverse among species and goals, but Shepard has to amke them work together and in doing so creates a team able to overcome the impossible. in ME3 you take that to a galactic level uniting different races.

But in both cases the diversity makes strong. the cut dialogue with the Geth f you created peace between Geth and Quarians emphisize it. It mentions how the Quarians and Geth compliment each other well on the battlefield despite different tactcis, becoming stronger as a whole because of their differences.

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Humakt83 wrote...

It seems Legion's puppy eye made fools of some people. Oh well, trusting another being is always a matter of faith anyway. And the long-term ramifications of that decision are uncertain at the best (as it is with several other things like curing Genophage or saving Rachni again).


Good points in-universe, but because this is fiction, and fiction has story and theme, saving the Rachni queen, curing the Genophage (with Wrex), and uploading Legion's code will all be good, and the right decisions.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 22 décembre 2012 - 10:44 .


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Humakt83 wrote...

What if Legion was "We are not Legion" or Geth VI instead? Would you people still trust it to upload the Reaper code?


Wouldn't know, I've never dealt with the VI.  Only Legion.  And Legion is clearly doing it right.

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Restrider wrote...

Has something of interest happened in the last 24 hours?


Well, I've come to the conclusion that Rifneno and Megumi are both equally full of crap today.  But that really doesn't count as something of interest to anyone but myself.    Also, Shep80 has discovered that the start menu has sounds very similar to those from the breath scene playing.

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Rifneno wrote...

How are the art books?  I was considering getting another.  Only have that trial-sized one that came with the collector's edition at the moment, but it's nice.


This is an excellent one (the physical version):

https://digital.dark...ffect-universe/

It also contains all the art from CE versions.

Modifié par Humakt83, 22 décembre 2012 - 10:48 .


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Rifneno wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

What if Legion was "We are not Legion" or Geth VI instead? Would you people still trust it to upload the Reaper code?


Wouldn't know, I've never dealt with the VI.  Only Legion.  And Legion is clearly doing it right.


Same here. Maybe he's like Wreav, and it'd be a bad idea? I honestly don't know, though.

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Dwailing wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Has something of interest happened in the last 24 hours?


Well, I've come to the conclusion that Rifneno and Megumi are both equally full of crap today.


Careful, or you'll have to hear Blur ****ing about keeping it to PM's.

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Humakt83 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

How are the art books?  I was considering getting another.  Only have that trial-sized one that came with the collector's edition at the moment, but it's nice.


This is an excellent one (the physical version):

https://digital.dark...ffect-universe/

It also contains all the art from CE versions.


Niice. I think I'll grab a copy. Thanks.

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Rifneno wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Has something of interest happened in the last 24 hours?


Well, I've come to the conclusion that Rifneno and Megumi are both equally full of crap today.


Careful, or you'll have to hear Blur ****ing about keeping it to PM's.


You know Dwailing mentioned PMs first, right? Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

It seems Legion's puppy eye made fools of some people. Oh well, trusting another being is always a matter of faith anyway. And the long-term ramifications of that decision are uncertain at the best (as it is with several other things like curing Genophage or saving Rachni again).


Good points in-universe, but because this is fiction, and fiction has story and theme, saving the Rachni queen, curing the Genophage (with Wrex), and uploading Legion's code will all be good, and the right decisions.


And besides, it takes more work to gain peace between the quarians and the geth.  That usually equals better.  And before anyone applies that to Synthesis, remember that it takes even MORE work to get the breath scene.

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Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

It seems Legion's puppy eye made fools of some people. Oh well, trusting another being is always a matter of faith anyway. And the long-term ramifications of that decision are uncertain at the best (as it is with several other things like curing Genophage or saving Rachni again).


Good points in-universe, but because this is fiction, and fiction has story and theme, saving the Rachni queen, curing the Genophage (with Wrex), and uploading Legion's code will all be good, and the right decisions.


And besides, it takes more work to gain peace between the quarians and the geth.  That usually equals better.  And before anyone applies that to Synthesis, remember that it takes even MORE work to get the breath scene.


But itz just a stoopid eester eeg lulz

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So happy holidays ITers.

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Rifneno wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Has something of interest happened in the last 24 hours?


Well, I've come to the conclusion that Rifneno and Megumi are both equally full of crap today.


Careful, or you'll have to hear Blur ****ing about keeping it to PM's.


Well, you seem to like being brutally honest with your opinions.  I see no reason when dealing with you to NOT be brutally honest with mine.  You dish it out, be ready to take it back.

Edit: Top.

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masster blaster wrote...

So happy holidays ITers.


Happy holidays to everyone! Posted Image