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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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BleedingUranium

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Restrider wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Yeah, I mean, Shepard is asleep for two days being studied by indoctrinated peopel. There's no way that could possibly mean anything sinister happens/is happening. ****ing idiots


Not only that, but he can hear Harbinger in his head BEFORE he get's knocked out, and has a long conversation with a giant transparent image of him in outer space AFTER. Yeah, sure, nothing is wrong with Shepard.  


But he's not having anymore visions! :whistle:

On this note:
What do people think about Sovereign's "YOU TOUCH MY MIND"?
It appeared to be normal holo-communication back on Virmire, but so did the discussion with Harbinger on that remote landing pad...


It's quite possible that was a mental link, like in Arrival, but Virmire at least had those blue hex-pattern things that project holographic things.

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Restrider wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Of course not!  I'm sure he's talking to that coffee maker because it's voice programmable or something.


You mean Traynor?


Hey!  Traynor's good for more than coffee.  She can.. umm...  Well she...  Oh damn, that's my pager, gotta go.

She knows how to shower with her underwears...
Well, femShep as well.


And yet, anatomically correct banshee!  WTH, BW!

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Restrider wrote...

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Would you kindly provide me with that sound comparision you found? Thanks in advance.


oops you :ph34r:'d me lol. Give me a sec and I'll repost it

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Ooh, estebanus just changed his profile pic to the one used by his sister while she was here.  I think I know what that might mean. :o

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Anyone can and should be able to post anything to anyone as long as it's IT related. If it's a personal attack it doesn't belong here. Be professional, both of you.


speaking of IT I have both art books. When I'm done with what I'm doing I'll look for the dreadnaught pics you posted earlier and see if I can find them


How are the art books?  I was considering getting another.  Only have that trial-sized one that came with the collector's edition at the moment, but it's nice.


i liked them. They are a bit of the behind the scenes of what they intended on doing with the game. Some of their thoughts were downright strange though. Some of it makes sense like the TIM being indoctrinated and wanting you to fight a monster but the. They changed the fighting monster part into fighting tIM's intelligence. They didn't take out the indoctrinated part


I don't know, I've always wondered if we'll actually end up fighting that thing after they do a reveal.

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Wow, this thread has become freaking enormous since I last was here!

How's it going, guys? It's been a while. It was pretty awesome in Cyprus. A bit hot though!

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanus' sister.

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estebanus wrote...

Wow, this thread has become freaking enormous since I last was here!

How's it going, guys? It's been a while. It was pretty awesome in Cyprus. A bit hot though!

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanus' sister.


Welcome back!

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Instead of lecturing a 7000+ page thread with hundreds of members about how to approach literary analysis, maybe you should actually provide some


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Rifneno wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Of course not!  I'm sure he's talking to that coffee maker because it's voice programmable or something.


You mean Traynor?


Hey!  Traynor's good for more than coffee.  She can.. umm...  Well she...  Oh damn, that's my pager, gotta go.

She knows how to shower with her underwears...
Well, femShep as well.


And yet, anatomically correct banshee!  WTH, BW!


Yeah, no kidding.  I miss ME1's romance cutscenes.  I mean, I like the more unique romance scenes that come in ME2 and ME3, but ME1's were so much more realistic.

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Rifneno wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, this thread has become freaking enormous since I last was here!

How's it going, guys? It's been a while. It was pretty awesome in Cyprus. A bit hot though!

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanus' sister.


Welcome back!

Hey, honey badger! What's up?

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estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, this thread has become freaking enormous since I last was here!

How's it going, guys? It's been a while. It was pretty awesome in Cyprus. A bit hot though!

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanus' sister.


Welcome back!

Hey, honey badger! What's up?


Literalists.  Some of them at least.  I mean, you've got to be high to believe some of that stuff.

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estebanus wrote...

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanusister.


Fixed that for ya.

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Well, my computer wants to install an update first

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estebanus wrote...

Wow, this thread has become freaking enormous since I last was here!

How's it going, guys? It's been a while. It was pretty awesome in Cyprus. A bit hot though!

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanus' sister.


I knew it!  I knew it the moment I saw the change in profile pic!  Welcome back.  I just wish you could have come back to a, heh, slightly nicer thread.  What can I say?  It's been an interesting couple of weeks.

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estebanus wrote...

Wow, this thread has become freaking enormous since I last was here!

How's it going, guys? It's been a while. It was pretty awesome in Cyprus. A bit hot though!

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanus' sister.


Hello again, I'm glad Cyprus went well! Happy holidays and all that. I'll let Bashee know you're back, he will also want to say hi.

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byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanusister.


Fixed that for ya.

haha! Yeah, that's me!

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BleedingUranium wrote...

cyrexwingblade wrote...

I do find the argument that Shepalyst validly copying Shepard is a violation of the Heisenberg principle a bit silly when we're saying the Reapers retain the knowledge and memories of their respective races after *reducing them to protein paste*.

The game-world is clear that Reaper tech can extrapolate organic mental processes in ways real science would either scream about or hide in a corner and cry over.

Using too much RL approach for a fictional and fringe-science scenario at best is just going to give you an anuerism. Much safer to just examine it literarily, and see about author-intent.


Except that it's established in-universe that you can't do that either.


Precisely. We have no idea whether the minds stored in a reaper are accurate representations of the species that created them or not. Legion only said they were "billions of organic minds, uploaded and conjoined". He didn't say whether or not they were perfect copies of actual people that had existed, or even if they were still sane. We only have the Bratalyst's word they they have been "preserved" in any meaningful way.

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Rifneno wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Of course not!  I'm sure he's talking to that coffee maker because it's voice programmable or something.


You mean Traynor?


Hey!  Traynor's good for more than coffee.  She can.. umm...  Well she...  Oh damn, that's my pager, gotta go.

She knows how to shower with her underwears...
Well, femShep as well.


And yet, anatomically correct banshee!  WTH, BW!


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Rifneno wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Anyone can and should be able to post anything to anyone as long as it's IT related. If it's a personal attack it doesn't belong here. Be professional, both of you.


speaking of IT I have both art books. When I'm done with what I'm doing I'll look for the dreadnaught pics you posted earlier and see if I can find them


How are the art books? I was considering getting another. Only have that trial-sized one that came with the collector's edition at the moment, but it's nice.


i liked them. They are a bit of the behind the scenes of what they intended on doing with the game. Some of their thoughts were downright strange though. Some of it makes sense like the TIM being indoctrinated and wanting you to fight a monster but the. They changed the fighting monster part into fighting tIM's intelligence. They didn't take out the indoctrinated part


I don't know, I've always wondered if we'll actually end up fighting that thing after they do a reveal.


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Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, this thread has become freaking enormous since I last was here!

How's it going, guys? It's been a while. It was pretty awesome in Cyprus. A bit hot though!

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanus' sister.


I knew it!  I knew it the moment I saw the change in profile pic!  Welcome back.  I just wish you could have come back to a, heh, slightly nicer thread.  What can I say?  It's been an interesting couple of weeks.

Months, more like :P

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estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanusister.


Fixed that for ya.

haha! Yeah, that's me!


:D

Welcome back!

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Hey Blur, I just had a thought. Does the Composer in Halo 4 remind you of anything in the ME universe? You know, any other devices that tried to preserve millions of organic minds and failed?

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estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, this thread has become freaking enormous since I last was here!

How's it going, guys? It's been a while. It was pretty awesome in Cyprus. A bit hot though!

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanus' sister.


I knew it!  I knew it the moment I saw the change in profile pic!  Welcome back.  I just wish you could have come back to a, heh, slightly nicer thread.  What can I say?  It's been an interesting couple of weeks.

Months, more like :P


Heh, yeah, you're right.  Maybe I just wish it had only been a couple of weeks.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Restrider :

Sufficient processing power to create enough redundancy to allow part of that processing power to be used for internal monitoring.

If your asking about quantum mechanics, them it's a simple matter of scale. Organic matter does not immediately decay because the uncertainty of particles does not directly interfere with order above a certain scale


I guess this would also include some sort of self-replication of the core-identity (if you want to call it that way).
Wouldn't that mean that it is theoretically possible to emulate such a network, since Heisenberg's uncertainty does not kick in for organic molecules?
Just theorizing here...

#71699
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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Well, my computer wants to install an update first


Windows Update.  IT IS THE HARBINGER OF YOUR PERFECTION.

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byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Oh, I suppose the newcomers may not know who I am, so let me reintroduce myself: I'm estebanusister.


Fixed that for ya.

haha! Yeah, that's me!


:D

Welcome back!

Thanks! It's great to finally be home with my family again!