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[Ageless Face]

Schachmatt wrote...
Your kidding, aren't you? Where has been any scream like this in the whole game? None? Right. And then, all of the sudden, coincidentaly, in the very moments the shuttles went down, we can hear a scream? From that distance, out of a closed shuttle? With an echoed hall effect? Year right. <_<

I'm usually very careful what I accept as evidence, but this scene is definatly not somebody else screaming out of nowhere.

Why would there be a scream like that in the whole game when there was nothing to scream about (Or at least I don't remember that kind of a scream. wouldn't even have noticed this scream if you haven't pointed it out)?. Many people could have screamed, not have to be only from the shuttle. The distance wasn't that great that if someone would have screamed loud enough you wouldn't hear it. As I said before, it doesn't have to be only the kid that screamed. In fact it sounds more like a woman to me.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Schachmatt wrote...

Has this been discussed before?

Good to see my video is still being remembered. 

[Arian Dynas]

Simon_Says wrote...

Also, Arian, why did you say I'm an authority on Hobbes? Cause no sir I aint. I just once brought up how Thane referenced Hobbes in ME2 to explain Rakhana's Malthusian Catastrophe. Hell I even thought he was misattributing the quote when I brought it up.

You're more of an authority than I on the subject. I haven't even read Leviathan.

Simon_Says wrote... 

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

There is wisdom in harnessing the strengths of your enemy weakness in falling for your enemy's propaganda.

My Shepard didn't fall for any propaganda. He just became the new god of the galaxy.

"If god did not exist, it would be necessary to invent one." - VoltraireVoltaire

I preffered the New Dark Age ending myself.

Kahlil Gibran said...

"Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors, But today we kneel only to truth"

"Now now my good man, this is no time for making enemies." - Voltaire

[Arian Dynas]

jasonh10 wrote...

I also found it a little odd that Javik was covered in red blood. Not sure what color prothean blood is, but I'm guessing not human red. From what I saw, though, all the other squad mates in the different variations were covered in red blood, so maybe it isn't their own. Couldn't tell what color it was on Garrus, though.

If his blood's derived from Iron, or some other red element (such as Cadmium) there's no reason at all why his blood should be red.

It's why Mr. Spock's blood is green, it's derived from copper, Iron oxyidizes and turns red, copper turns green. If his blood was derived from say, cobalt, his blood would be blue.

We also figured out at one point how Javik's "homeopathy" likely works. (coulda used a codex entry tho...)

[Arian Dynas]

TSA_383 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Very odd no one noticed it until a few weeks ago then. It seems obvious as soon as I saw the video when expecting it.

I noticed it in april 
Pretty sure others caught it before I did too

We did discuss it before, yes.

[RavenEyry]

Arian Dynas wrote...

jasonh10 wrote...

I also found it a little odd that Javik was covered in red blood. Not sure what color prothean blood is, but I'm guessing not human red. From what I saw, though, all the other squad mates in the different variations were covered in red blood, so maybe it isn't their own. Couldn't tell what color it was on Garrus, though.

If his blood's derived from Iron, or some other red element (such as Cadmium) there's no reason at all why his blood should be red.

It's why Mr. Spock's blood is green, it's derived from copper, Iron oxyidizes and turns red, copper turns green. If his blood was derived from say, cobalt, his blood would be blue.

We also figured out at one point how Javik's "homeopathy" likely works. (coulda used a codex entry tho...)

Turian blood is usually blue, though the animators cocked up in the krogan bomb mission. Garrus' blue blood is clearly visible after the gunship incident.

[MegumiAzusa]

I don't know why you argued with Heretic Hanar as long as you guys did. It's made quite clear that even the Guardian doesn't directly control a Reaper but only just a one or a few at a time. No real difference there.
Made a post about this before the discussion even started but again no one cared about it.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 08 août 2012 - 09:54 .

[Arian Dynas]

HagarIshay wrote...

Schachmatt wrote...
Yes, not to mention that it's impossible to hear any scream at all

If it's not the same shuttle of the kid to get shot down, then isn't it most likely the scream is from someone else? Might be someone close enough for Shepard to hear a scream?

I mean, that kid was certaintly not the only one in Vancouver (even if he was the only kid we saw). And seeing a shuttle getting blown up will make everyone scream. It might not even have been a kid...

1. It IS the Kid's Shuttle. You can watch and see it's the same he gets in.

2. It's not an issue of distance, those shuttles would be incapable of letting sound out, due to them being airtight. You wouldn't hear anything, let alone something as clear and high pitched as that kid.

And what other point would there be for that scream being there?

The major problem I've noticed your lot has, is trying to explain away events in game with "logical, real world explanations."

That just does not work here. Like, at all. This is not the real world, this is a work of fiction, and in this case, a videogame, there is no asset or anything of that sort that was not put there intentionally by the designers. There are no artifacts of an actor's preformance, except those intentionally integtrated, there are no fingerprints of a set, because they're all made in a computer. There is no reason to focus on something that is not part of the story.

Basically, we know that scream is the kid, because there is no logical reason to assume it's anyone else, WITH THE ASSUMPTION that what we are looking at is a piece of fiction. Which it is. The same goes for his apparent ability to teleport from place to place.

Basically, it's the reason we know that Joker's sister is dead, but Shepard doesn't. Because we can look at it and go; "Oh, Hillary, Tiptree. Must be Joker's sister." Shepard goes; "Huh. That's familiar, some girl at Tiptree named Hillary got killed. That sucks. Shouldn't say anything to Joker though, there's probably thousands of Hillarys at Tiptree, and she never gave a last name."

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 08 août 2012 - 09:59 .

[Arian Dynas]

Simon_Says wrote...

I doubt Javik would quit until he's crawled a few yards past the limits of the physically possible. Primitves and friends be damned, he will have his vengeance!

I now have a morbid desire to see Javik getting burned and torn apart, yet still slaughtering reaper forces, culminating in a biotic kamikaze attack when he literally has nothing left but his teeth to fight with.

I know that if I was a reaper I'd be ****ting my shell if I saw that.

Anyway, I'm out for the night.

Hmm.. consider this idea stolen.

[Arian Dynas]

RavenEyry wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

jasonh10 wrote...

I also found it a little odd that Javik was covered in red blood. Not sure what color prothean blood is, but I'm guessing not human red. From what I saw, though, all the other squad mates in the different variations were covered in red blood, so maybe it isn't their own. Couldn't tell what color it was on Garrus, though.

If his blood's derived from Iron, or some other red element (such as Cadmium) there's no reason at all why his blood should be red.

It's why Mr. Spock's blood is green, it's derived from copper, Iron oxyidizes and turns red, copper turns green. If his blood was derived from say, cobalt, his blood would be blue.

We also figured out at one point how Javik's "homeopathy" likely works. (coulda used a codex entry tho...)

Turian blood is usually blue, though the animators cocked up in the krogan bomb mission. Garrus' blue blood is clearly visible after the gunship incident.

There ya go.

Though, one could also make the case that his blood was a dark purple, anyone know of a metal that oxydizes purple?

[MaximizedAction]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Though, one could also make the case that his blood was a dark purple, anyone know of a metal that oxydizes purple?

Manganese can, I think. Interestingly, it also has blue and green oxydation states.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 08 août 2012 - 10:06 .

[Ageless Face]

Arian Dynas wrote...
1. It IS the Kid's Shuttle. You can watch and see it's the same he gets in.

2. It's not an issue of distance, those shuttles would be incapable of letting sound out, due to them being airtight. You wouldn't hear anything, let alone something as clear and high pitched as that kid.

And what other point would there be for that scream being there?

The major problem I've noticed your lot has, is trying to explain away events in game with "logical, real world explanations."

That just does not work here. Like, at all. This is not the real world, this is a work of fiction, and in this case, a videogame, there is no asset or anything of that sort that was not put there intentionally by the designers. There are no artifacts of an actor's preformance, except those intentionally integtrated, there are no fingerprints of a set, because they're all made in a computer. There is no reason to focus on something that is not part of the story.

Basically, we know that scream is the kid, because there is no logical reason to assume it's anyone else, WITH THE ASSUMPTION that what we are looking at is a piece of fiction. Which it is. The same goes for his apparent ability to teleport from place to place.

2. The scream could've been outside of the shuttle.

I don't see what's the problem is with explaining with real world explanations. There is no hidden meaning into every randon person we hear speaking inside the Citadel, for example. It's just voices in the backround. A random person screaming while a shuttle is getting blown up is certaintly logical and possible either in fiction or in the real world.

[Leonia]

Potassium can be purple (thought not a metal, I don't think) but yeah, now we're bring up "logical, real world explanations". Does it really matter what colour it is?

And Megumi I never ignore any of your posts, they're great reads

Modifié par leonia42, 08 août 2012 - 10:06 .

[Lyria]

Potassium chloride burns purple.....only thing I can think of.

[Arian Dynas]

Being but a simple Archaeology major, this is all Greek to me, but from what I can gather, Manganese oxydizes into a bright purple color when in the form of a compound of permaganate anion MnO4-

I think.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 08 août 2012 - 10:08 .

[Arian Dynas]

protognosis wrote...

Potassium chloride burns purple.....only thing I can think of.

Ohai Protognosis, long time no see.

[MegumiAzusa]

TSA_383 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Very odd no one noticed it until a few weeks ago then. It seems obvious as soon as I saw the video when expecting it.

I noticed it in april 
Pretty sure others caught it before I did too

Was mentioned in the first IT thread over and over, really nothing new.

[Arian Dynas]

HagarIshay wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
1. It IS the Kid's Shuttle. You can watch and see it's the same he gets in.

2. It's not an issue of distance, those shuttles would be incapable of letting sound out, due to them being airtight. You wouldn't hear anything, let alone something as clear and high pitched as that kid.

And what other point would there be for that scream being there?

The major problem I've noticed your lot has, is trying to explain away events in game with "logical, real world explanations."

That just does not work here. Like, at all. This is not the real world, this is a work of fiction, and in this case, a videogame, there is no asset or anything of that sort that was not put there intentionally by the designers. There are no artifacts of an actor's preformance, except those intentionally integtrated, there are no fingerprints of a set, because they're all made in a computer. There is no reason to focus on something that is not part of the story.

Basically, we know that scream is the kid, because there is no logical reason to assume it's anyone else, WITH THE ASSUMPTION that what we are looking at is a piece of fiction. Which it is. The same goes for his apparent ability to teleport from place to place.

2. The scream could've been outside of the shuttle.

I don't see what's the problem is with explaining with real world explanations. There is no hidden meaning into every randon person we hear speaking inside the Citadel, for example. It's just voices in the backround. A random person screaming while a shuttle is getting blown up is certaintly logical and possible either in fiction or in the real world.

2. Yes. It could have. In Shepard's auditory cortex. Because it wasn't real.

Wrong. There is, there ABSOLUTELY is, every quest you get for fetch quests and the like, background noise, Shepard eavesdropping on other, uninvolved conversations, all significant. Everything involved in arbiting arguments between two individuals, significant. Everything involved in just little easter eggs, like Joker's sister, SIGNFICANT.

The only thing that is not, is ambient noise. Which, seeing as it is explicitly singled out by the sound track, being the ONLY SOUND playing at the time, other than the music, is CLEARLY not ambient noise.

[MegumiAzusa]

leonia42 wrote...

And Megumi I never ignore any of your posts, they're great reads

Nice it's read, still no comment sucks as it was obviously being ignored.

[Lyria]

Arian Dynas wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Potassium chloride burns purple.....only thing I can think of.

Ohai Protognosis, long time no see.

Haihai! Yeah. I've lurked more lately than posted. New DLC makes me excited.

Speaking of which, have yall seen that thread with leaked dialogue (alleged) from Leviathan. I'd post a link but my cell is a no good for such things.

Edit: autocorrect is a f***Ing troll. Had to fix what was autocorrected.

Modifié par protognosis, 08 août 2012 - 10:19 .

[Arian Dynas]

protognosis wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Potassium chloride burns purple.....only thing I can think of.

Ohai Protognosis, long time no see.

Haihai! Yeah. I've lurked more lately than posted. New DLC makes me excited.

Speaking if which, have yall seem that thread with leaked dialogue (alleged) from Leviathan. I'd post a link but my cell is a no good for such things.

T'was likely TSA's thread on the subject. I try not to read that one, as much as I love our beloved chicken, no spoilers for me.

At least, not if I can help it.

[TSA_383]

Arian Dynas wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Potassium chloride burns purple.....only thing I can think of.

Ohai Protognosis, long time no see.

Haihai! Yeah. I've lurked more lately than posted. New DLC makes me excited.

Speaking if which, have yall seem that thread with leaked dialogue (alleged) from Leviathan. I'd post a link but my cell is a no good for such things.

T'was likely TSA's thread on the subject. I try not to read that one, as much as I love our beloved chicken, no spoilers for me.

At least, not if I can help it.

So that's why I've not seen any of you in there 
It's actually quite an interesting bit of dialogue - it pretty well confirms my suspicions about what the "catalyst" is and why it does what it does...

(also if the chicken thing was me, I have abandoned el clucko and now have this fancy cat. It even has a speculation monocle)

Modifié par TSA_383, 08 août 2012 - 10:24 .

[Lyria]

It bodes neither well nor ill as far as IT is concerned. But there is still potential for IT though the Leviathan being a proto reaper, thus pre "assume control" type behavior, could mean it can't indoctrinate as that might have been an adaptation the Catalyst needed to make harvesting easier in Reaper 1.1.

Honestly, I was hoping Leviathan dlc would take place early enough that Leviathan could blatantly indoctrinate Shepard thus informing the audience more obviously that Shepard is indoctrinated since the masses don't understand symbolism.

[TSA_383]

https://twitter.com/...511340235862017
Went looking to see if any of the developers had something interesting on twitter. Saw this.
So. Damn. Funny.

[MegumiAzusa]

Arian Dynas wrote...

The only thing that is not, is ambient noise. Which, seeing as it is explicitly singled out by the sound track, being the ONLY SOUND playing at the time, other than the music, is CLEARLY not ambient noise.

It's also interesting to note when with music on how it's nearly perfectly aligned with it. It has about the same volume and is nearly at the exact same time of another sound, but overlays it. Which is the reason you don't notice it at first.