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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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BansheeOwnage

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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Also Lilith was my nickname on that page for some time, somewhere around 2007/2008, that's why the folder is named that way.

Oh no! Megumi!

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IsaacShep wrote...

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Even if that were true it still wouldn't make any sense. At all.

What wouldn't make sense? Lying on the ground? People do lie on the ground and breathe quite often :P


I know that when I design my giant space magic batteries, I like to include personal explosion survival shields. I also include blocks of concrete, because concrete is pretty neat.:wizard:

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IsaacShep wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Literal interpretation must involve indoctrination. Otherwise the ending is just nonsense (breath scene).

It's not. Some Citadel/Crucible construction element shielded him from the blast so he survived. The end.


Don't you guys remember? It was the giant, red x-shaped force field!

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IsaacShep wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Even if that were true it still wouldn't make any sense. At all.

What wouldn't make sense? Lying on the ground? People do lie on the ground and breathe quite often :P

No disrespect or anything, I just don't think that makes sense. Shepard would most likely have been killed already by the exploding tube. Or bled to death. Or suffocated/froze because of the improbibility of the atmosphere suriving the explosion, or anyone finding him/her.

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So what do you guys think about the fan fiction guys? About to turn in for the night, and just wanted your opinions on it.

EDIT - Don't worry if I don't respond. Just means I logged out for the night. PS. Just in case...NIGHT!!

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 23 décembre 2012 - 04:36 .


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Lokanaiya wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Literal interpretation must involve indoctrination. Otherwise the ending is just nonsense (breath scene).

It's not. Some Citadel/Crucible construction element shielded him from the blast so he survived. The end.


Don't you guys remember? It was the giant, red x-shaped force field!

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Yes. But also:

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Pentagon on 9/11. Ever watched any documentaries on 9/11? Few people still survived from these impact areas because some pieces of furniture/office desks shielded them from the explosion. Similar in WTC towers

BansheeOwnage wrote...

No disrespect or anything, I just don't think that makes sense. Shepard would most likely have been killed already by the exploding tube. Or bled to death. Or suffocated/froze because of the improbibility of the atmosphere suriving the explosion, or anyone finding him/her.

They know where the Crucible fire sequence started, they would obviously start looking for Shep right there. Or they can use binoculars, it's not exactly a hidden place lol, it's right there under the Citadel Tower

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Huh. Look people say Shepard could be in the Citadle wards at the end. Um did they not see that in order Shepard to be in the wards, Shepard would have to fall from the Citadle tower, and go outside the force field ( if believe that crap), and survive a free fall that should crush all the bones in his/her body/ kill him/her.

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IsaacShep wrote...
 *snip*
Pentagon on 9/11. Ever watched any documentaries on 9/11? Few people still survived from these impact areas because some pieces of furniture/office desks shielded them from the explosion. Similar in WTC towers


Thats apples and oranges. The Citadel explosion is more like a nuclear blast than a plane exploding. It'd be like if some kind of archaeologist survived a nuke in a fridge. But that'd be ridiculous.

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IsaacShep wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Literal interpretation must involve indoctrination. Otherwise the ending is just nonsense (breath scene).

It's not. Some Citadel/Crucible construction element shielded him from the blast so he survived. The end.


The shear force of that explosion would flatten Shepard, sheild or no shield. The station would also take considerable damage from that explosion. Easily more than enough damage to ensure life support and other vital systems would fail.

And no, theres no way Shepard survived an explosion that massive and re-entry into Earth's atmosphere. 


EDIT**
You're not seriously trying to compare the explosions at the WTC and Pentagon to the Citadel's destruction are you? And they say we grasp at straws....

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 23 décembre 2012 - 04:46 .


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Byne it's Jones/ Han solo. He can survive a nuke explosion.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Pentagon on 9/11. Ever watched any documentaries on 9/11? Few people still survived from these impact areas because some pieces of furniture/office desks shielded them from the explosion. Similar in WTC towers


Nyreen's fate on Omega should give you all the indication you need for how likely it is for Shepard to survive the ending's explosion.

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I need to post the list again don't I?
... one sec let me find it.

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Reposting from long ago:

When viewing the following keep in mind several things:
The Citadel is massive. Shepard is at the base of the ring, essentially  under the Presidium Tower in the center of the Citadel where the  Crucible is docked. Shepard has hardly any armor and no kinetic barriers as proven by the blood spatter from Marauder Shields attack.

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This explosion more than envelops the area where Shepard was in the decision chamber, the sheer size of this explosion should let us assume that it  is LARGE and FATAL to anything near it.

A list of things Shepard would need to survive in the Destroy ending in order to take the famous breath:

1. Potentially fatal injuries already sustained. (Harbinger's death ray, Marauder Shields gunshot, excessive bleeding)
2. The initial explosion of the Destroy tube (the strength of this  explosion alone could outright kill Shepard at point blank range).
3. Being ground zero when the Red Wave is sent out (it's enough force to  move space debris and Reapers, it would most definitley hurt Shepard being that close).
4. The Red Wave itself. "You can wipe out all  Synthetic life if you want --- Even YOU are partly Synthetic," it's
entirely possible ALL of Shepard's implants would be deactivated on  contact with the Red energy.
5. The Citadel-Crucible explosion, image above.
6. The vastness of space without a helmet. Or air for that matter.
7. Re-entry into Earth's atmosphere without kinetic barriers or whole armor or a helmet (the sheer heat of freefall would vaporize Shepard if other things hadn't already.)
8. Impact with the ground, assuming anything is left of Shepard it would have to be scooped up with a shovel and bucket.

The infamous "Shepard Breath" scene I am 99% positive takes place on Earth,  see my sig for London Rubble/Breath scene Rubble comparison. Shepard is  in one piece, bloodied and battered, and takes a breath on Earth after  the list above, the only logical explanation is that Shepard never left Earth. Whether or not things occured in your head or in real life while you were uncosious is up in the air at this point.

As
said before, even if the Breath scene doesn't take place on Earth,
there's still 5 things that should kill Shepard even if he/she is such a
badass.


If I missed anything, feel free to add to the list.

#71864
Lokanaiya

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IsaacShep wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Literal interpretation must involve indoctrination. Otherwise the ending is just nonsense (breath scene).

It's not. Some Citadel/Crucible construction element shielded him from the blast so he survived. The end.


Don't you guys remember? It was the giant, red x-shaped force field!

*snip*

Yes. But also:

*snip*

Pentagon on 9/11. Ever watched any documentaries on 9/11? Few people still survived from these impact areas because some pieces of furniture/office desks shielded them from the explosion. Similar in WTC towers


Erm, I was joking. It was a reference to a discussion earlier in this thread...

#71865
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This thread is still alive? I had assumed people admitted defeat on this theory by now.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So Banshee does my post end up on the words of awsome thread?

Yes. It will be added in the next "batch" of posts because I don't want to make too many individual ones.

You did good MB - you did good. I'm... proud of you. Posted Image Only bad part was that you compared Byne to the kid. Posted Image

Edit: Posted Image Byne Halo is pretty easy. You just use a Banshee to decimate the other team. Posted Image


Why thank you, and hey I didn't mean for byne to be the Catalyst. But this is the Catalyst that makes sense.

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117. I see you just joined last week. Been here for about 10 months, and we are still here. Plus this is Mark 3, and when Chris comes back we will be on Mark 4.

Modifié par masster blaster, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:06 .


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byne wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
 *snip*
Pentagon on 9/11. Ever watched any documentaries on 9/11? Few people still survived from these impact areas because some pieces of furniture/office desks shielded them from the explosion. Similar in WTC towers


Thats apples and oranges. The Citadel explosion is more like a nuclear blast than a plane exploding. It'd be like if some kind of archaeologist survived a nuke in a fridge. But that'd be ridiculous.

If it was like a nuclear blast, then the Presidium would've been completly destroy yet we can clearly see that the structure is still intact after the explosion.

As for Indy surviving - yep, it's unrealistic. And? Dodging 8293745 bullets is also unrealistic yet action pratagonists do it all the time. You just have to accept it.

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masster blaster wrote...

117. I see you just joined last week. Been here for about 10 months, and we are still here. Plus this is Mark 3, and when Chris comes back we will be on Mark 4.


Lurker, obviously?

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masster blaster

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I am not a lurker. Well use to be about 9 months ago, but now I am a poster. And man I never thought I would actually post usefull information that helped open speculations.

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masster blaster wrote...

I am not a lurker. Well use to be about 9 months ago, but now I am a poster. And man I never thought I would actually post usefull information that helped open speculations.


He means he was a lurker masster. I dont know what the date he signed up on has to do with anything anyways.

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masster blaster wrote...

I am not a lurker. Well use to be about 9 months ago, but now I am a poster. And man I never thought I would actually post usefull information that helped open speculations.


I was referring to me. I've been a Mass Effect fan since ME1 was released, just because I didn't post here doesn't mean anything. I was genuinely surprised this thread still existed at this point, it's pretty clear this isn't true. I was expecting mostly ME4 speculation and DLC story talks around. Not a year old theory.


edit: and I didn't post to troll, before that starts up. I posted out of genuine surprise. Seriously though, if anybody has any more fun videos that have some new random theories throw me some links, watching those back then was fun and interesting, regardless of factivity.

Modifié par Vilyn117, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:14 .


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masster blaster

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Oh well meh. Good to know that I am semi right byne. 438 people come and lurk the IT thread an hour or 2.

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Hostility detected.
All units stand by engagement, keep a safe distance but continue operations.

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IsaacShep wrote...

byne wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
 *snip*
Pentagon on 9/11. Ever watched any documentaries on 9/11? Few people still survived from these impact areas because some pieces of furniture/office desks shielded them from the explosion. Similar in WTC towers


Thats apples and oranges. The Citadel explosion is more like a nuclear blast than a plane exploding. It'd be like if some kind of archaeologist survived a nuke in a fridge. But that'd be ridiculous.

If it was like a nuclear blast, then the Presidium would've been completly destroy yet we can clearly see that the structure is still intact after the explosion.

As for Indy surviving - yep, it's unrealistic. And? Dodging 8293745 bullets is also unrealistic yet action pratagonists do it all the time. You just have to accept it.


You don't need a nuclear blast to kill a human. An explosion a tenth as strong would still kill the guy. Accept it.