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[byne]

Vilyn117 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I am not a lurker. Well use to be about 9 months ago, but now I am a poster. And man I never thought I would actually post usefull information that helped open speculations.

I was referring to me. I've been a Mass Effect fan since ME1 was released, just because I didn't post here doesn't mean anything. I was genuinely surprised this thread still existed at this point, it's pretty clear this isn't true. I was expecting mostly ME4 speculation and DLC story talks around. Not a year old theory.

Repeating falsehoods doesnt make them true. Priestly said IT was a valid interpretation, none of the DLC disproved IT, in fact Levithan strengthened it.

Anyhow, I'm off to sleep.

[Vilyn117]

byne wrote...

Vilyn117 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I am not a lurker. Well use to be about 9 months ago, but now I am a poster. And man I never thought I would actually post usefull information that helped open speculations.

I was referring to me. I've been a Mass Effect fan since ME1 was released, just because I didn't post here doesn't mean anything. I was genuinely surprised this thread still existed at this point, it's pretty clear this isn't true. I was expecting mostly ME4 speculation and DLC story talks around. Not a year old theory.

Repeating falsehoods doesnt make them true. Priestly said IT was a valid interpretation, none of the DLC disproved IT, in fact Levithan strengthened it.

Anyhow, I'm off to sleep.

Leviathin strengthened...it...lol. Sure.

[masster blaster]

Well sorry to dissapoint you 117. Although IT is alive. I could explain to you how it is, but it's up to you.

[Vilyn117]

masster blaster wrote...

Well sorry to dissapoint you 117. Although IT is alive. I could explain to you how it is, but it's up to you.

Tell me this new Leviathin stuff. And if Omega is part of it, tell me that too.

edit: and I'm only asking you to tell me because I really hpe you're not gonna tell me to read 2000pages worth of a thread to find anything relevenant.

Modifié par Vilyn117, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:17 .

[GethPrimeMKII]

The next thread needs to come with a disclaimer: Do not ask why this thread is still going or express surprise that it is still active.

Its just a sure-fire way of coming off like a hostile troll.

[Humakt83]

Vilyn117 wrote...

I was referring to me. I've been a Mass Effect fan since ME1 was released, just because I didn't post here doesn't mean anything. I was genuinely surprised this thread still existed at this point, it's pretty clear this isn't true. I was expecting mostly ME4 speculation and DLC story talks around. Not a year old theory.

IT is easily the most popular ending theory and for a good reason. People still discover new/old stuff that could be connected to the Shepard's indoctrination, foreshadows the endings or are just plain mysterious. DLCs have added more fuel to the fire.

Modifié par Humakt83, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:18 .

[Vilyn117]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

The next thread needs to come with a disclaimer: Do not ask why this thread is still going or express surprise that it is still active.

Its just a sure-fire way of coming off like a hostile troll.

How upset you are. Anyway krogan guy, you have the floor.

[Big_Boss9]

Vilyn117 wrote...

This thread is still alive? I had assumed people admitted defeat on this theory by now.

Ah yes, the occasional "Why is this thread still going post", we have dismissed this claim.

[Vilyn117]

Humakt83 wrote...

Vilyn117 wrote...

I was referring to me. I've been a Mass Effect fan since ME1 was released, just because I didn't post here doesn't mean anything. I was genuinely surprised this thread still existed at this point, it's pretty clear this isn't true. I was expecting mostly ME4 speculation and DLC story talks around. Not a year old theory.

IT is easily the most popular ending theory and for a good reason. People still discover new/old stuff that could be connected to the Shepard's indoctrination, foreshadows the endings and are just plain mysterious. DLCs have added more fuel to the fire.

I'm going to just throw out that there is a good chance it's mostly only popular on the forums...which is only a small section of people that play ME. There's presumably thousands of fans who never even heard of it, and take the story at normal face value.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Disclaimer number two should be: If you're new to this thread or unfamiliar with the theory, take the time to read the front page.

[Vilyn117]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Disclaimer number two should be: If you're new to this thread or unfamiliar with the theory, take the time to read the front page.

SPOILER ALERT: I want to be persuaded in discussion, not watch some videos.


Although videos are fun, krogan guy offered to talk. And thats more interesting.

Modifié par Vilyn117, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:22 .

[shepskisaac]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

You don't need a nuclear blast to kill a human. An explosion a tenth as strong would still kill the guy. Accept it.

The creators of ME3 made Shepard survive the explosion. Accept it.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:25 .

[GethPrimeMKII]

Vilyn117 wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Disclaimer number two should be: If you're new to this thread or unfamiliar with the theory, take the time to read the front page.

SPOILER ALERT: I want to be persuaded in discussion, not watch some videos.


Although videos are fun, krogan guy offered to talk. And thats more interesting.

NEWS FLASH: The front page is there for reference so that the theory doesnt need to e re explained from the beginning over and over.

[GethPrimeMKII]

IsaacShep wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

You don't need a nuclear blast to kill a human. An explosion a tenth as strong would still kill the guy. Accept it.

The creators of ME3 made Shepard survive the explosion. Accept it.

I've accepted the fact that you dont understand much about physics.

[Vilyn117]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Vilyn117 wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Disclaimer number two should be: If you're new to this thread or unfamiliar with the theory, take the time to read the front page.

SPOILER ALERT: I want to be persuaded in discussion, not watch some videos.


Although videos are fun, krogan guy offered to talk. And thats more interesting.

NEWS FLASH: The front page is there for reference so that the theory doesnt need to e re explained from the beginning over and over.

PLOT TWIST: We are only talking about leviathin and maybe omega if it applies.

[Humakt83]

IsaacShep wrote...

The creators of ME3 made Shepard survive the explosion. Accept it.

Nah, that is just your interpretation of the events that occurred. 

[masster blaster]

Okay 117.

Leviathan.

Proved that Shepard is not that strong when it came down to Leviathan getting into Shepard's head.

Leviathan takes the form of Ann, and to other people you meet in Levithan. Similar to how the Reaper leader takes the form of the child.

Levithan's ending is in Shepard's head.

Leviathan tells Shepard that his/her memorys give them voice.

Leviathan creates Ann's father's lab table inside Shepard's head. Similar to how the Citadle is made up of places Shepard has been to.

Leviathan yes proved that their is an intellengence/ leader of the Reapers, but it did not say where it is, nor it is the Catalyst.
Leviathan also lied to us about the Crucible. Leviathan's eyes look down to the left when Shepard ask about them knowing about the crucible, yet it only said that they watched it's creation, but always failed.

Leviathan in all proves that yes Shepard can be undergoing Indoctrination at the end. The brat/ Leader of the Reapers ( Harbinger which I believe is) is inside Shepard's head. How else does it know about that one child. His/her memorys being used against him/her to think everything is real.

Omega not much to say, never played it, so can some one explain Omega to 117.

[Gwyphon]

Leviathan also had a crazy amount of similarity to the ending in terms of lines, character placement, etc.

Examples such as when Shepard is woken in the illusion he's in the exact same position as when it occurs at the end of the game.

omega had a bunch of subtle call backs such as the reactor scene having THREE interrupts and a shiney blue figure telling you to pick them.

Modifié par Gwyphon, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:34 .

[masster blaster]

Oh and I also forgot that Shepard is in an Atlas under water at the end of Leviathan, yet when Leviathan get's into Shepard's head. Shepard is nolonger in the Atlas, and is on all fours.

Also Shepard thinks that Ann Bryson is really there with Shepard.

Shepard: Ann * cough* what are you doing here?

So Shepard can be fooled into thinking that the place he/she is at is real, yet never notice that he/she was in an Atlas under water.

[masster blaster]

Ooooh And one more thing Leviathan tells Shepard.

Leviathan: Your mind belongs to me now. Except this.

[shepskisaac]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I've accepted the fact that you dont understand much about physics.

OMG haha you're bringing "you don't get physics" argument to a discussion about an explosion that would never even look like it does in ME if this was real life and real space.

And again, deal already with the fact that the creators made Shep survive. If you don't like it and think it's unrealistic, fine (just don't forget how unrealistic the explosion itself is lol), but nothing you do will change that the creators had Shep survive.

Humakt83 wrote...
Nah, that is just your interpretation of the events that occurred. 

So now you've switched to "ohh in that case I say he died haha!"?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:38 .

[Vilyn117]

masster blaster wrote...

Okay 117.

Leviathan.

Proved that Shepard is not that strong when it came down to Leviathan getting into Shepard's head.

Leviathan takes the form of Ann, and to other people you meet in Levithan. Similar to how the Reaper leader takes the form of the child. [/u][u]

Levithan's ending is in Shepard's head.

Leviathan tells Shepard that his/her memorys give them voice.

Leviathan creates Ann's father's lab table inside Shepard's head. Similar to how the Citadle is made up of places Shepard has been to.

Leviathan yes proved that their is an intellengence/ leader of the Reapers, but it did not say where it is, nor it is the Catalyst.
Leviathan also lied to us about the Crucible. Leviathan's eyes look down to the left when Shepard ask about them knowing about the crucible, yet it only said that they watched it's creation, but always failed.

Leviathan in all proves that yes Shepard can be undergoing Indoctrination at the end. The brat/ Leader of the Reapers ( Harbinger which I believe is) is inside Shepard's head. How else does it know about that one child. His/her memorys being used against him/her to think everything is real.

Omega not much to say, never played it, so can some one explain Omega to 117.

I don't feel as strongly pulled by this evidence as with the original theory. Some of it just seems like...forced. I can never take anything regarding eyes seriously with Bioware, since that was also something brought up from TIM, but since the entirety of the game has horrible animations, I'm going to disregard that and settle with story plot. It does seem weird how shepard went from strong minded to be weak in Leviathin, but I took it as the original reapers...the organics, were simply better at it or stronger than they synthetic, faked, counterparts. Just like how a computer is weaker than a human brain.

And it's in his head...how so? The mech thing never happened? Is that what youre getting at?



Edit: And while this DLC showed that yes, they CAN get in shepards head, the rest of the DLC is simply taken at face value when SHepard is Shepard, if you know what I mean. When leviathin gets in shepards head, wouldnt he be aware that shepard was indoctrinated? Fighting control for shepard?

Modifié par Vilyn117, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:42 .

[masster blaster]

Issac So why didn't Shepard survive in ME2 opening? Ah yes the writers lazy Bioware. Pass. Honest did Anderson survive a gun shot wound no. Shepard is already beyond **** up. I doubt an explosion on the Citadle on that size could survive.

OMG that explsion reminds me of virmier.

Did Kadin, or Ash survived the explsion let's ask them.

What's that ya one of them is dead.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Omega has some very interesting its of foreshadowing. The scene in the reactor where Nyreen and Aria are trapped play out very much like the ending. Shepard is given a choice by Petrovesky to save Nyreen and Aria at the cost of several thousand lives or allow them to die to keep the many alive.

Sound familiar? Starbinger claims choosing destroy will cost the lives of all synthetics. But if you go for his other more preferred solutions you can save everybody and nobody has to die but Shepard.

It turns out Petrovsky was bluffing. Choosing the allow Aria and Nyreen to die to save the many allowed everyone to live. Falling for Petrovsky's bluff and choosing to save Aria and Nyreen results in the deaths of thousands due to life support system failures across the station.

The lesson learned is victory through sacrifice. You will gain nothing if you are unwilling to sacrifice anything.