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[KneeTheCap]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...
*snip*
hilarious similarities
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Now while your post is correct and all, it touches the IT a bit. Do tell me, how many similarities and coincedences it takes to form a pattern? 

[RavenEyry]

Seems from your description the catalyst/guardian was originally just their to provide information and allow you to make an informed decision. I wonder why it was changed to a bullsh*tter with an agenda?

[The Heretic of Time]

protognosis wrote...

Rif & Hanar y'all need to chill the f*** out.

Also, Avina AI catalyst would've provided Amazing synergy with the series. The first real info dump Shepard receives was from Avina...the last info dump Shepard encounters is the Catalyst. It would've also been amusing if Avina was the Catalyst.

I'm sure as hell a lot of less people would have trust issues with the Catalyst if it looked and acted similar to Avina. I mean hell, even I, a "literalist" as you people like to call me, had trust issues with the Catalyst the first time I saw him. The way he looks and acts is just too ridiculous.

[The Heretic of Time]

KneeTheCap wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...
*snip*
hilarious similarities
*snip*

Now while your post is correct and all, it touches the IT a bit. Do tell me, how many similarities and coincedences it takes to form a pattern? 

I wouldn't know. You tell me.

[Lyria]

RavenEyry wrote...

Seems from your description the catalyst/guardian was originally just their to provide information and allow you to make an informed decision. I wonder why it was changed to a bullsh*tter with an agenda?

I do honestly think it was changed to fit the symbolism in the beginning with the ventbrat. Bioware wanted to shoehorn into the story more symbolism and someone saw the Wintersun albumn and said, "dude this would be awesome" while consuming copious amounts of whiskey and/or maple syrup.

[Rifneno]

protognosis wrote...

Rif & Hanar y'all need to chill the f*** out.

Also, Avina AI catalyst would've provided Amazing synergy with the series. The first real info dump Shepard receives was from Avina...the last info dump Shepard encounters is the Catalyst. It would've also been amusing if Avina was the Catalyst.

I'm chilled. I never was anything else. I gave a curt "shut up" in my earlier post because I could sense a "wut? ur delusional" incoming. You know, like that one he gave people over the shuttle scream. It was more a pre-emptive "leave me alone" than a "get out of my thread". He took it as the latter, but I didn't really care enough to clear it up. When he started going on about how he wished the catalyst was a woman, that was serious lol material and I couldn't help but poke some fun at it. Because c'mon, "it would've been better if it was a nice woman instead of a Casper the anti-social ghost"? What's the difference whether the person pissing all over 6 years of storylines is doing it sitting down or standing up?

But hey... on topic for IT. Just started Ascension. This line popped out at me. "On some level he always knew when he was dreaming. There was a strange haze over everything, a bleary film that left the false reality feeling washed out and muted." Refers to Paul Grayson and his indoctrination dreams. Isn't there a low fog in Shepard's dreams? And the plants are "washed out and muted" of color.

[The Heretic of Time]

RavenEyry wrote...

Seems from your description the catalyst/guardian was originally just their to provide information and allow you to make an informed decision. I wonder why it was changed to a bullsh*tter with an agenda?

My guess: Because BioWare wanted to do an attempt at a "deep" and "thought provoking" ending full with "artistic integrity".

[Home run MF]

Simon_Says wrote...

I doubt Javik would quit until he's crawled a few yards past the limits of the physically possible. Primitves and friends be damned, he will have his vengeance!

I now have a morbid desire to see Javik getting burned and torn apart, yet still slaughtering reaper forces, culminating in a biotic kamikaze attack when he literally has nothing left but his teeth to fight with.

I know that if I was a reaper I'd be ****ting my shell if I saw that.

Anyway, I'm out for the night.

He was going to kill himself when everything was over, atleast he says so five minutes earlier, and then he chickens out? On the most epic battle and his chance at vengeance? That is as out of character as it gets

jasonh10 wrote...

I also found it a little odd that Javik was covered in red blood. Not sure what color prothean blood is, but I'm guessing not human red. From what I saw, though, all the other squad mates in the different variations were covered in red blood, so maybe it isn't their own. Couldn't tell what color it was on Garrus, though.

Liara's blood in that scene is dark purple/blue

protognosis wrote...

Also, Avina AI catalyst would've provided Amazing synergy with the series. The first real info dump Shepard receives was from Avina...the last info dump Shepard encounters is the Catalyst. It would've also been amusing if Avina was the Catalyst.

I can hear the Talimancers/Mirandamancers complaining already

Modifié par Home run MF, 08 août 2012 - 12:47 .

[Rifneno]

So they released a DLC that costs $2 worth of BW points. But the minimum quantity you can buy BWP in is $10.

... Is there some way I'm not seeing in which this isn't stupid?

[Lyria]

I just don't want this thread to get locked for stupid stuff.
The ****** for tat epeen contest between Hanar and everyone else is senseless.
We need to self police this thread to avoid locking it, m'kay.

So IT. I wonder if what TIM sought at Omega has something to do with reapers/control/indoctrination.

[MegumiAzusa]

Home run MF wrote...

jasonh10 wrote...

I also found it a little odd that Javik was covered in red blood. Not sure what color prothean blood is, but I'm guessing not human red. From what I saw, though, all the other squad mates in the different variations were covered in red blood, so maybe it isn't their own. Couldn't tell what color it was on Garrus, though.

Liara's blood in that scene is dark purple/blue

Also EDI certainly isn't covered in red blood
She gets her damaged skin from before.

[GethPrimeMKII]

protognosis wrote...

I just don't want this thread to get locked for stupid stuff.
The ****** for tat epeen contest between Hanar and everyone else is senseless.
We need to self police this thread to avoid locking it, m'kay.

So IT. I wonder if what TIM sought at Omega has something to do with reapers/control/indoctrination.

That depends. Are there unexplored regions of the Omega space station just like there are on the CItadel?

[The Heretic of Time]

Rifneno wrote...

When he started going on about how he wished the catalyst was a woman, that was serious lol material and I couldn't help but poke some fun at it. Because c'mon, "it would've been better if it was a nice woman instead of a Casper the anti-social ghost"? What's the difference whether the person pissing all over 6 years of storylines is doing it sitting down or standing up?

EVERYTHING would have been better than Casper the anti-social ghost.

I merely said that the leaked script gave me the impression that the Catalyst would have been a woman. Later I said I thought a woman Catalyst would have been better than Casper. How is that lol-material? 


Let me ask you a question, based on this comment of yours. Do you think the ending of Mass Effect 3 is the only thing wrong with Mass Effect 3? Do you think it is just the ending that pisses all over 6 years of storylines? Or do you think the whole of ME3 does that?

Where did it go wrong? At the beginning of ME3? Half-way through ME3 or at the end?


I think it already went wrong when BioWare decided to waste the whole middle-part of the trilogy (ME2) on a completely new enemy that didn't really add anything significant to the plot that we didn't already know. When Bioware introduced the Crucible I knew something was going wrong. It's not just Casper pissing all over 6 years of investment in a story, the whole of ME3 did.

[Lyria]

Rifneno wrote...

So they released a DLC that costs $2 worth of BW points. But the minimum quantity you can buy BWP in is $10.

... Is there some way I'm not seeing in which this isn't stupid?

You have to buy 20$ worth of BWP to get the dlc put out this month....they make you buy in 10$ increments so you go ahead and buy more than you need. Its like a scheme or something.

Edit: seriously autocorrect changed dlc to doc...wtf?

Modifié par protognosis, 08 août 2012 - 01:02 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Rifneno wrote...

So they released a DLC that costs $2 worth of BW points. But the minimum quantity you can buy BWP in is $10.

... Is there some way I'm not seeing in which this isn't stupid?

The 400 points package is $10 for you?

[RavenEyry]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Let me ask you a question, based on this comment of yours. Do you think the ending of Mass Effect 3 is the only thing wrong with Mass Effect 3? Do you think it is just the ending that pisses all over 6 years of storylines? Or do you think the whole of ME3 does that?

There are plenty of flaws, but 1 and 2 had flaws as well. I can easily overlook those because of the quality of the whole game. If 3 had a fitting and satisfying ending I'd have been completely fulfiled.

Also I think 2's plot is perfectly fine apart from a nasty case of 'second-part-of-a-trilogy-itis'.

[Lyria]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

protognosis wrote...

I just don't want this thread to get locked for stupid stuff.
The ****** for tat epeen contest between Hanar and everyone else is senseless.
We need to self police this thread to avoid locking it, m'kay.

So IT. I wonder if what TIM sought at Omega has something to do with reapers/control/indoctrination.

That depends. Are there unexplored regions of the Omega space station just like there are on the CItadel?

It would have to be. As Shepard only explored a small secton in ME2.

[MegumiAzusa]

protognosis wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

protognosis wrote...

So IT. I wonder if what TIM sought at Omega has something to do with reapers/control/indoctrination.

That depends. Are there unexplored regions of the Omega space station just like there are on the CItadel?

It would have to be. As Shepard only explored a small secton in ME2.

Why do you think he sought anything at Omega? It's the next thing that controls the passage to "his" new Collector base. Makes sense to acquire Omega as a FOB.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 08 août 2012 - 01:04 .

[RavenEyry]

protognosis wrote...

It would have to be. As Shepard only explored a small secton in ME2.

I think they meant generally unexplored, not not visited by Shepard.

[MaximizedAction]

RavenEyry wrote...

Seems from your description the catalyst/guardian was originally just their to provide information and allow you to make an informed decision. I wonder why it was changed to a bullsh*tter with an agenda?

Taking also into account all the interviews and statements from 2011, the final ME3 story turned out an almost completely different story.

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Seems from your description the catalyst/guardian was originally just their to provide information and allow you to make an informed decision. I wonder why it was changed to a bullsh*tter with an agenda?

Taking also into account all the interviews and statements from 2011, the final ME3 story turned out an almost completely different story.

[Home run MF]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

protognosis wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

protognosis wrote...

So IT. I wonder if what TIM sought at Omega has something to do with reapers/control/indoctrination.

That depends. Are there unexplored regions of the Omega space station just like there are on the CItadel?

It would have to be. As Shepard only explored a small secton in ME2.

Why do you think he sought anything at Omega? It's the next thing that controls the passage to "his" new Collector base. Makes sense to acquire Omega as a FOB.

Has anyone thought about the Omega 4 relay? Maybe it's the piece missing, it could control and stabilize the crucible's energy so the other relays can stand it without blowing up. 

[Lyria]

RavenEyry wrote...

protognosis wrote...

It would have to be. As Shepard only explored a small secton in ME2.

I think they meant generally unexplored, not not visited by Shepard.

Yeah....herp derp. Lolz.
Aria already had a deal with TIM to allow Cerberus access to the relay. There was no need to take Omega except to p!ss off Aria. Seems like there was something else to it.

[MegumiAzusa]

Home run MF wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

protognosis wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

protognosis wrote...

So IT. I wonder if what TIM sought at Omega has something to do with reapers/control/indoctrination.

That depends. Are there unexplored regions of the Omega space station just like there are on the CItadel?

It would have to be. As Shepard only explored a small secton in ME2.

Why do you think he sought anything at Omega? It's the next thing that controls the passage to "his" new Collector base. Makes sense to acquire Omega as a FOB.

Has anyone thought about the Omega 4 relay? Maybe it's the piece missing, it could control and stabilize the crucible's energy so the other relays can stand it without blowing up.

I can't see how that relay should do that.

[pseudonymic]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I think it already went wrong when BioWare decided to waste the whole middle-part of the trilogy (ME2) on a completely new enemy that didn't really add anything significant to the plot that we didn't already know. When Bioware introduced the Crucible I knew something was going wrong. It's not just Casper pissing all over 6 years of investment in a story, the whole of ME3 did.

i have to agree with this. correct me if i'm wrong in deducing this is what you're referring to, but i honestly thought the introduction of cerberus was unnecessary. we knew there were reapers. we knew that shepard's goal was to stop them, from ME1. the whole cerberus thing, despite its origins, has no real relevance to the story to me. the crucible plotline was in the same vein as the introduction of cerberus - a not so well thought out and abrupt interjection.

the catalyst was ridiculous in too many ways, but considering the whole "crucible" thing, it's right up there with it.

honestly, after ME1 i used to think somehow the story would culminate to liara being behind some sort of "earn your trust to screw you over" plan. it seemed only fitting with how directly involved with the reapers she'd been, and how ME2 begins with you basically being alive because of her. it was disappointing that it didn't take that turn, but despite liara haters abound, to me it still would've made more sense than holo-boy and the whole "let's play on shepard's sense of guilt" BS we were given. at least it was a familiar face, and one that many even came to really like.

with that said, there's one moment in ME3 between shepard and liara that makes me actually truly believe shepard is in the process of indoctrination. when they have a conversation where one of them says something about how to fight something that gets in your head, it's almost like validation to me that it is happening. bioware seems to like that sort of irony. funny enough, it would've fit with the idea of liara being part of this somehow, with all the mind melding she has done with shepard.