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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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#701
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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I just noticed that it's almost 1/2 year since the indoctrination theory was born, and we're still here, strong as ever...

Nostalgia wave incoming!

LOL. How did you get to that conclusion? It's still 1.5 month to go.

Checj the original thread. It was started 5 months ago.

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estebanus wrote...

I just noticed that it's almost 1/2 year since the indoctrination theory was born, and we're still here, strong as ever...

Nostalgia wave incoming!



Pretty damn amazing right? [/Kaidan] And commander - it's been an honour. [/Joker] Stand strong, stand together. Banshee out.

#703
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Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

That's... very interesting. I'd expected you to be older...

#704
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Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

Nice. Thought I was the youngest one here. Guess not Posted Image

#705
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This is truly the only theory I know of to have survived this long since ME3's release. Truly, 'tis not a vain accomplishment, no?

#706
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

Nice. Thought I was the youngest one here. Guess not Posted Image

How old are you?

#707
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estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

That's... very interesting. I'd expected you to be older...

In all honestly I'm not in the least bit surprised about the overabundance of maturity and intellect in the thread. That's why I like it so much. Posted Image

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I am 15 and I have to wait until the 1st of October to become 16.

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"Take heart in this, celebrate, and relax tonight. Tomorrow morning, we will get down to business"

Am I the only one who thinks this might be a small hint to wait until tomorrow for something new to be coming out, or am I just reading into this to much?

http://blog.bioware....rwatch-success/

Modifié par L0NEWOLF25, 31 juillet 2012 - 08:15 .


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The fact that conventional victory was 'not possible' was bashed into Shepard's and the players head so well that most believe it.

I don't. I never did. And neither did Shepard. Beating the Reapers 'conventionally' is so up for interpretation that it never made sense to me. Also, if you recall, Shep never intended to do any such thing.

"Unconventional thinking just may be the only way to save Palavin... and Earth."

What is Conventional? The diversity of this cycle in itself is not conventional... though we only have a cycle sample size of one to infer that previous cycles adopted the same doctrine of war.

What about tech? Tech, for the most part is based on Reaper tech. Some of it, however is not... and whatever is not seems to be adamantly targeted and destroyed by Reaper forces. Luckily, if you read up on the planets, there is still some of this tech around that is dormant... like another collider that is still intact... old but it intact... like power grid specs - remember those? Oh and an H-3 facility... few station.

These can all be re-purposed and refurbished to aid in a war effort that is far from conventional according what may be a 'Reaper' definition. We already know that using Reaper tech against Reapers is not healthy or such a good idea - it's a form of control. Leave that up to Leviathan if it's willing to help. At lease it may be able to 'control' the tech properly.

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estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

That's... very interesting. I'd expected you to be older...


I'll take that as a compliment.

#712
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

That's... very interesting. I'd expected you to be older...

In all honestly I'm not in the least bit surprised about the overabundance of maturity and intellect in the thread. That's why I like it so much. Posted Image

Oh, stop it! You're making me all misty-eyed...

#713
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Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

That's... very interesting. I'd expected you to be older...


I'll take that as a compliment.



As it was intended.

/Bhelen

#714
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Gotta run for a bit. I'll be back later, though.

#715
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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

Nice. Thought I was the youngest one here. Guess not Posted Image

How old are you?

16.

#716
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

Nice. Thought I was the youngest one here. Guess not Posted Image


How old are you? Brownie points to the one who guesses my age. :happy:

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L0NEWOLF25 wrote...

"Take heart in this, celebrate, and relax tonight. Tomorrow morning, we will get down to business"

Am I the only one who thinks this might be a small hint to wait until tomorrow for something new to be coming out, or am I just reading into this to much?

http://blog.bioware....rwatch-success/

IMO you're not reading into it too much, but I could be wrong. There is a lot of speculation to be done about this. I'll post something about it soon.

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Seems 15 is the youngest and I'm told 56 is the oldest, so we're a pretty varied bunch.

#719
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TJBartlemus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...
I get that sometimes. Posted Image  My only problem is that it can occasionally be a difficult to interact with other teenagers.  I just don't feel like I have anything to add to the conversation at times. Posted Image 

Oh, I know that feeling. There aren't many people around me that are interested in the same thing I am. I mean, I doubt any of my comrades would like to discuss Seneca, Aristoteles and Machiavelli with me...

I'll third this. And how exactly how old are you Dwailing?


I just turned 16 on the 24th.

Nice. Thought I was the youngest one here. Guess not Posted Image


How old are you? Brownie points to the one who guesses my age. :happy:

17! Posted Image

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Ha! All you amateurs! Generation 1990 is the best! We're even stronger than the power rangers!

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RavenEyry wrote...

Seems 15 is the youngest and I'm told 56 is the oldest, so we're a pretty varied bunch.

That's why we're gonna win this war. The Protheans were too similar. We stand a much better chance. Javik knew synthesis was bad. Making everyone the same doesn't help anyone.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 31 juillet 2012 - 08:24 .


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RavenEyry wrote...

Seems 15 is the youngest and I'm told 56 is the oldest, so we're a pretty varied bunch.


I thought I may have been 'one of' the oldest but you win.

"The diversity in this thread of both age and wisdom, all brought together by the Reapers."

"Actually, it was Shepard that did that."

...and through that diversity, we will find victory.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Seems 15 is the youngest and I'm told 56 is the oldest, so we're a pretty varied bunch.

That's why we're gonna win this war. The Protheans were too similar. We stand a much better chance. Javik knew synthesis was bad. Making everyone the same doesn't help anyone.

And Generation 1990 will be the tip of the spear!

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Turbo_J wrote...

The fact that conventional victory was 'not possible' was bashed into Shepard's and the players head so well that most believe it.

I don't. I never did. And neither did Shepard. Beating the Reapers 'conventionally' is so up for interpretation that it never made sense to me. Also, if you recall, Shep never intended to do any such thing.

"Unconventional thinking just may be the only way to save Palavin... and Earth."

What is Conventional? The diversity of this cycle in itself is not conventional... though we only have a cycle sample size of one to infer that previous cycles adopted the same doctrine of war.

What about tech? Tech, for the most part is based on Reaper tech. Some of it, however is not... and whatever is not seems to be adamantly targeted and destroyed by Reaper forces. Luckily, if you read up on the planets, there is still some of this tech around that is dormant... like another collider that is still intact... old but it intact... like power grid specs - remember those? Oh and an H-3 facility... few station.

These can all be re-purposed and refurbished to aid in a war effort that is far from conventional according what may be a 'Reaper' definition. We already know that using Reaper tech against Reapers is not healthy or such a good idea - it's a form of control. Leave that up to Leviathan if it's willing to help. At lease it may be able to 'control' the tech properly.


It has to be a pretty heavy onconventional strategy to win us the war. The battle for Earth, the key battle of this cycle, has us outnumbered about 1.5 - 1 in Sovereign class Reapers vs Dreadnoughts, an area where we in order to win would need a 3 - 1 ratio of Dreadnoughts to Sovereign class in order to win...and that is if we look at the numbers favorably, as in pre war number of Dreadnoughts.

Sure we can inflict casualties to the Reapers, heavier casualties than they probably had the last 1000 cycles combined, but beat them without something really incredible? Not in this cycle, they are too many.

At least that is my view by comparing the data we have.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 31 juillet 2012 - 08:25 .


#725
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BansheeOwnage wrote...
17! Posted Image


What? No other guesses? These brownies are starting to smell really good. I might just eat them myself.... :devil: