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Wipper snappers!

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Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It's fun watching literalists complain about how it makes no sense for Shepard to be alive. "It's so stupid, he couldn't possible survive that!" Gee, if only there were some theory to explain it...


Its fun leading people by the nose to figure out their own conclusions.  And seeing them fail.

To be completely fair, that statement totally works both ways. It's also possible that the IT is completely wrong. I'm not saying it is though, if that's what you think I was implying.

Ah well, it's not as if I really care either way. If the IT is true, great, if not, fine. I won't get the chance to play Mass Effect for a long time, anyway.

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masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

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smokingotter1 wrote...

@mb I can't gotta go do some holiday errands.

Up in Alaska yall, happy holidays!


kk, oh and I got your online picture gift, a little hint every Otter likes to eat these.

Oysters?


crab cakes.



Blasphemy! 

Oh, and did you already open your presents, MB?


no. American. We only open one present on the eve before x mas.


Top.

Better luck next time Estebanus, and Banshee.

And what present did you get? Which one did you open?

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Andromidius wrote...

Wipper snappers!


I'll get off your front yard lawn when I feel like it, old man! :P

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estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It's fun watching literalists complain about how it makes no sense for Shepard to be alive. "It's so stupid, he couldn't possible survive that!" Gee, if only there were some theory to explain it...


Its fun leading people by the nose to figure out their own conclusions.  And seeing them fail.

To be completely fair, that statement totally works both ways. It's also possible that the IT is completely wrong. I'm not saying it is though, if that's what you think I was implying.

Ah well, it's not as if I really care either way. If the IT is true, great, if not, fine. I won't get the chance to play Mass Effect for a long time, anyway.


Of course.  But its still better to be wrong and try, then to be wrong and stubbornly refuse to even consider why there's a problem.

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Dwailing wrote...

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smokingotter1 wrote...

@mb I can't gotta go do some holiday errands.

Up in Alaska yall, happy holidays!


How'd you know where I live? ;):P Happy Holidays Everyone!!


Arian also lives in Alaska.  You two need to arrange a meeting at some point.  In my opinion, one of the coolest things that could ever happen, to me, anyway, would be meeting one you all in person.


Yeah...I don't know how that would work out. A 16 year old meeting an adult they met online. :pinched::lol: 


Wow, another 16 year old.  We might be the hope for the future of America, you know that, right? :D:lol:


so that's Loka, you. TJ, and I. 4, 16 year olds.

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The SR2 Normandy Estebanus.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Wipper snappers!


I'll get off your front yard lawn when I feel like it, old man! :P


Don't make me go get my rifle!

Yeah, I'm 27.  I can complain about being old.

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Dwailing wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

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smokingotter1 wrote...

@mb I can't gotta go do some holiday errands.

Up in Alaska yall, happy holidays!


How'd you know where I live? ;):P Happy Holidays Everyone!!


Arian also lives in Alaska.  You two need to arrange a meeting at some point.  In my opinion, one of the coolest things that could ever happen, to me, anyway, would be meeting one you all in person.


Yeah...I don't know how that would work out. A 16 year old meeting an adult they met online. :pinched::lol: 


Wow, another 16 year old.  We might be the hope for the future of America, you know that, right? :D:lol:

What is the average age here, anyway? I'm 28.

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estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

@mb I can't gotta go do some holiday errands.

Up in Alaska yall, happy holidays!


How'd you know where I live? ;):P Happy Holidays Everyone!!


Arian also lives in Alaska.  You two need to arrange a meeting at some point.  In my opinion, one of the coolest things that could ever happen, to me, anyway, would be meeting one you all in person.


Yeah...I don't know how that would work out. A 16 year old meeting an adult they met online. :pinched::lol: 


Wow, another 16 year old.  We might be the hope for the future of America, you know that, right? :D:lol:

What is the average age here, anyway? I'm 28.

I don't know, but there are a hell of a lot of 22 and 23 year olds. I'm 17.  Posted Image Feel older.

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Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It's fun watching literalists complain about how it makes no sense for Shepard to be alive. "It's so stupid, he couldn't possible survive that!" Gee, if only there were some theory to explain it...


Its fun leading people by the nose to figure out their own conclusions.  And seeing them fail.

To be completely fair, that statement totally works both ways. It's also possible that the IT is completely wrong. I'm not saying it is though, if that's what you think I was implying.

Ah well, it's not as if I really care either way. If the IT is true, great, if not, fine. I won't get the chance to play Mass Effect for a long time, anyway.


Of course.  But its still better to be wrong and try, then to be wrong and stubbornly refuse to even consider why there's a problem.


I always say, if a Literalist could give me an explanation of the ending that is more than just, "Lulz, Biowear is stoopid and layzie," I would reconsider my belief in IT.  However, that seems to be the only thing that any Literalist that I've met can suggest.  Now, that's not to say that all of them are that stupid and say it like that.  Some, like Hagar, Epyon, and GBGriffin, are extremely intelligent.  However, at it's core, that's the main Literalist argument.  That, or whatever drivel Seival is spewing at any given time.

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masster blaster wrote...

so that's Loka, you. TJ, and I. 4, 16 year olds.


You forget Banshee. (Well he is about 17 but whatever.)

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estebanus wrote...

What is the average age here, anyway? I'm 28.


I'm the wrong side of 30, so I'm probably the most decrepid old codger here.

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The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:

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TJBartlemus wrote...

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so that's Loka, you. TJ, and I. 4, 16 year olds.


You forget Banshee. (Well he is about 17 but whatever.)


And 401.  He's 16, too.

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Eryri wrote...

estebanus wrote...

What is the average age here, anyway? I'm 28.


I'm the wrong side of 30, so I'm probably the most decrepid old codger here.


No, that was DJBare.  What was he?  Fifty six?

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estebanus wrote...
Oh, I would totally love to see a real battle, but in this case, I think that the actual boss battle is actually concluded by killing Harbinger inside your mind. 

That said, It would be awesome to have a real final battle where you see all your war assets in action, and depending on your choices and EMS, you either gain a flawless victory or a bitter defeat, and everything inbetween. It could be made like the suicide mission, where you command squads around Earth, just like you commanded your companions during the suicide mission. 

It would be awesome. And the "leaked" script had you ordering elements of Hammer, Shield, and Sword fleets around during the final battle. I sure hope they add this in reality! I'll ask this question again: If the new MegaDLC is not IT, what could it be?

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Dwailing wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

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so that's Loka, you. TJ, and I. 4, 16 year olds.


You forget Banshee. (Well he is about 17 but whatever.)


And 401.  He's 16, too.


All we need now is 3 more 16, or 17 year olds, and we can form the IT Fellowship.

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:


Not bad. What is your current rank, and what is your new one going to be? If you don't mind telling us.

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Eryri wrote...

estebanus wrote...

What is the average age here, anyway? I'm 28.


I'm the wrong side of 30, so I'm probably the most decrepid old codger here.

It's okay. You're cool!

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:


http://tvtropes.org/...qualsAsskicking ?

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:

Wow, that's awesome! Major?

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I'll ask this question again: If the new MegaDLC is not IT, what could it be?


Some people are suggesting (bizarrely) that it's some sort of "Save Joker's Family" dlc, based on the fact that Seth Green is recording lines. I suspect that those suggesting that, weren't paying attention to the Asari in Huerta...:whistle:

Modifié par Eryri, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:44 .


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Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It's fun watching literalists complain about how it makes no sense for Shepard to be alive. "It's so stupid, he couldn't possible survive that!" Gee, if only there were some theory to explain it...


Its fun leading people by the nose to figure out their own conclusions.  And seeing them fail.

To be completely fair, that statement totally works both ways. It's also possible that the IT is completely wrong. I'm not saying it is though, if that's what you think I was implying.

Ah well, it's not as if I really care either way. If the IT is true, great, if not, fine. I won't get the chance to play Mass Effect for a long time, anyway.


Of course.  But its still better to be wrong and try, then to be wrong and stubbornly refuse to even consider why there's a problem.


I always say, if a Literalist could give me an explanation of the ending that is more than just, "Lulz, Biowear is stoopid and layzie," I would reconsider my belief in IT.  However, that seems to be the only thing that any Literalist that I've met can suggest.  Now, that's not to say that all of them are that stupid and say it like that.  Some, like Hagar, Epyon, and GBGriffin, are extremely intelligent.  However, at it's core, that's the main Literalist argument.  That, or whatever drivel Seival is spewing at any given time.

I believe that the reason why one can't come up with another interpretation of the endings is simply because it doesn't mae sense. There is no way to make sense of an ending that, at its core, is senseless, except if you say it was all a dream/hallucination as a side result of somebody trying to manipulate your mind. That is why the literal intepretation doesn't make sense: Because the ending simply doesn't. 
As a result of this, many believe that BioWare simply f*cked up, badly. Me, I'm not so sure one way or the other. I can certainly see the IT as a possibility simply because of BioWare's track record of writing great and compelling stories, but, when I look at their recent track record (DA 2, SWTOR), I find myself in conflict. 

TOP! F*ck yeah! Where's Banshee?!

Modifié par estebanus, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:44 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:

Wow, that's awesome! Major?

Yup!