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TJBartlemus

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What's wrong with SWTOR?

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masster blaster wrote...

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The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:


Not bad. What is your current rank, and what is your new one going to be? If you don't mind telling us.

I was a primærleutnant, the danish equivalent of an american first lieutenant (I think), and I'll be promoted to major. The ceremony will be held in January, although the exact date will be specified when I return to active duty.

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estebanus wrote...
Yup! 


Impressive rank.  In the British Army if you achieve the rank of Major you can officially use it as a title (i.e. instead of Mr or Mrs, just like Dr) after you retire.

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estebanus wrote...
I was a primærleutnant, the danish equivalent of an american first lieutenant (I think), and I'll be promoted to major. The ceremony will be held in January, although the exact date will be specified when I return to active duty.


No Captain rank?

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estebanus wrote...

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Wow, that's awesome! Major?

Yup! 


Hell of a christmas present, congratulations ^_^

Merry Christmas to y'all!

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Eryri wrote...

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I'll ask this question again: If the new MegaDLC is not IT, what could it be?


Some people are suggesting (bizarrely) that it's some sort of "Save Joker's Family" dlc, based on the fact that Seth Green is recording lines. I suspect that those suggesting that, weren't paying attention to the Asari in Huerta...:whistle:

I seem to agree. Posted Image People really need to pay more attention.

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Eryri wrote...

estebanus wrote...

What is the average age here, anyway? I'm 28.


I'm the wrong side of 30, so I'm probably the most decrepid old codger here.


32 here.  Just getting into those "not a kid anymore" aches and such.  Real fun. :unsure:

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TOP! F*ck yeah! Where's Banshee?!

:D I'll get it next time!

Also, very nice job being a major and only 28! Posted Image

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:53 .


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Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:


http://tvtropes.org/...qualsAsskicking ?

Not necessarily. Many people in command have higher ranks than I have, yet they'd probably not stand a chance against a normal soldier when it comes to a fight. Most of the guys in charge would probably ****** themselves in real combat, but they still outrank me.

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Rifneno wrote...

Eryri wrote...

estebanus wrote...

What is the average age here, anyway? I'm 28.


I'm the wrong side of 30, so I'm probably the most decrepid old codger here.


32 here.  Just getting into those "not a kid anymore" aches and such.  Real fun. :unsure:


I started getting those when I was 12.

Then I hit 25, and realised those aches were NOTHING.  I was invincible in my teens, and I didn't know it!

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estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

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It's fun watching literalists complain about how it makes no sense for Shepard to be alive. "It's so stupid, he couldn't possible survive that!" Gee, if only there were some theory to explain it...


Its fun leading people by the nose to figure out their own conclusions.  And seeing them fail.

To be completely fair, that statement totally works both ways. It's also possible that the IT is completely wrong. I'm not saying it is though, if that's what you think I was implying.

Ah well, it's not as if I really care either way. If the IT is true, great, if not, fine. I won't get the chance to play Mass Effect for a long time, anyway.


Of course.  But its still better to be wrong and try, then to be wrong and stubbornly refuse to even consider why there's a problem.


I always say, if a Literalist could give me an explanation of the ending that is more than just, "Lulz, Biowear is stoopid and layzie," I would reconsider my belief in IT.  However, that seems to be the only thing that any Literalist that I've met can suggest.  Now, that's not to say that all of them are that stupid and say it like that.  Some, like Hagar, Epyon, and GBGriffin, are extremely intelligent.  However, at it's core, that's the main Literalist argument.  That, or whatever drivel Seival is spewing at any given time.

I believe that the reason why one can't come up with another interpretation of the endings is simply because it doesn't mae sense. There is no way to make sense of an ending that, at its core, is senseless, except if you say it was all a dream/hallucination as a side result of somebody trying to manipulate your mind. That is why the literal intepretation doesn't make sense: Because the ending simply doesn't. 
As a result of this, many believe that BioWare simply f*cked up, badly. Me, I'm not so sure one way or the other. I can certainly see the IT as a possibility simply because of BioWare's track record of writing great and compelling stories, but, when I look at their recent track record (DA 2, SWTOR), I find myself in conflict. 

TOP! F*ck yeah! Where's Banshee?!


You know, it's odd, but I had heard that the storyline in SW:TOR was the best part of it.  And as for DA 2, I've yet to finish either DA: O or DA 2, so I can't comment from experience yet.

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Andromidius wrote...

Don't make me go get my rifle!

Yeah, I'm 27.  I can complain about being old.


Nope. Even I can't get away with that and I'm 29.

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estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:


http://tvtropes.org/...qualsAsskicking ?

Not necessarily. Many people in command have higher ranks than I have, yet they'd probably not stand a chance against a normal soldier when it comes to a fight. Most of the guys in charge would probably ****** themselves in real combat, but they still outrank me.


You're supposed to say yes, and you're being promoted because you're a badass.  Silly!

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Humakt83 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Don't make me go get my rifle!

Yeah, I'm 27.  I can complain about being old.


Nope. Even I can't get away with that and I'm 29.


You obviously haven't been mistreating yourself enough then!

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estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...

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The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:


http://tvtropes.org/...qualsAsskicking ?

Not necessarily. Many people in command have higher ranks than I have, yet they'd probably not stand a chance against a normal soldier when it comes to a fight. Most of the guys in charge would probably ****** themselves in real combat, but they still outrank me.


So, would this be a closer trope for you? http://tvtropes.org/.../MajorlyAwesome

Modifié par Dwailing, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:57 .


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ohmygodthatsawesome: this and this :wub:

Will buy those for myself as christmas presents, loved playing them on my old <3 Sega Mega Drive <3

Just realized I forgot to buy Jade Empire the other day <_<

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I'm nineteen years of age. Merry Christmas by the way. It's just turned the 25th in England :D

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Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:


http://tvtropes.org/...qualsAsskicking ?

Not necessarily. Many people in command have higher ranks than I have, yet they'd probably not stand a chance against a normal soldier when it comes to a fight. Most of the guys in charge would probably ****** themselves in real combat, but they still outrank me.


So, would this be a closer trope for you? http://tvtropes.org/.../MajorlyAwesome

I can't say. I simply follow orders, that's all.

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Merry Christmas in the UK now. Ahoy!

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estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

The SR2 Normandy Estebanusister.

Oh, that's so awesome! Now I'm jelly! 

Me, I got a beautiful ring from my parents, a video game from estebanus, and several books from my other brother. Oh, and I got a letter from command saying that I'll be promoted!:lol:


http://tvtropes.org/...qualsAsskicking ?

Not necessarily. Many people in command have higher ranks than I have, yet they'd probably not stand a chance against a normal soldier when it comes to a fight. Most of the guys in charge would probably ****** themselves in real combat, but they still outrank me.


So, would this be a closer trope for you? http://tvtropes.org/.../MajorlyAwesome

I can't say. I simply follow orders, that's all.


You know, you're supposed to say, "Yes."  Because you really are Majorly Awesome. :D

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estebanus wrote...
I can't say. I simply follow orders, that's all.


So modest!

...she's a stone cold warrior, for sure.

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You know, it's odd, but I had heard that the storyline in SW:TOR was the best part of it.  And as for DA 2, I've yet to finish either DA: O or DA 2, so I can't comment from experience yet.


I'm in the odd position of having played DA2 (it was on sale) but not DA:Origins. As such I was probably less disappointed than most by DA2, because I had no basis for comparison. The combat was fun and fast paced. The story was OK, a bit lacking in epic grandeur I suppose, but that game's real problem was its horribly recycled environments.

Identical warehouses. Identical cave systems, with a little bit of variety introduced by blocking off some areas with a crudely pasted in stone door, (with a tiny, unintenional gap you could see around). Dull, mud-coloured city scapes. Very claustrophobic, and not in an intentional, appropriate way. 

Modifié par Eryri, 25 décembre 2012 - 12:04 .


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Just realized I forgot to buy Jade Empire the other day Posted Image

Jade is not for sale! Posted Image

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Merry Christmas everyone.

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Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...
I was a primærleutnant, the danish equivalent of an american first lieutenant (I think), and I'll be promoted to major. The ceremony will be held in January, although the exact date will be specified when I return to active duty.


No Captain rank?

People who have gone through officers training go directly to major from first lieutenant. Everybody else with lower training has to become a captain first.