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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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@spot

:) i remember using that one a lot back in the original thread when we had a particularly annoying troll. He or she went by the name waldstr18 (hope i did not summon him/her by mentioning their name)

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Skillz1986 wrote...

@spot

:) i remember using that one a lot back in the original thread when we had a particularly annoying troll. He or she went by the name waldstr18 (hope i did not summon him/her by mentioning their name)


I might have heard of him

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Did anyone else find Hackett's message very interesting?

Also, could someone help me fix my font colours?

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Well, I got Minecraft today, and... I FOUND IRON! Yeah, I'm such a noob that Iron is still awesome. :P

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[quote]BleedingUranium wrote...
*snip*

The loss of life on our homeworlds makes it easy to believe that this moment is the end of the world or the end of the galaxy, but I cannot believe that. Since time was first recorded, there have been thousands of supposed prophets telling myths about when the end will come, and they have all been proven wrong. We will make it through this, too… but it will be a fight to get there.

Good work.

–Admiral Hackett[/quote][/quote]

I thought that last bit was interesting, in regards to ME endings and the Theories.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...
*snip*

The loss of life on our homeworlds makes it easy to believe that this moment is the end of the world or the end of the galaxy, but I cannot believe that. Since time was first recorded, there have been thousands of supposed prophets telling myths about when the end will come, and they have all been proven wrong. We will make it through this, too… but it will be a fight to get there.

Good work.

–Admiral Hackett


I thought that last bit was interesting, in regards to ME endings and the Theories.


Yeah, it is interesting.  And it could also be a reference to Chris, the devs, and all the times we've heard that the ending is the ending.

Edit: Of course, it could also just be a reference to, you know, the war.  We can't know for certain.

Modifié par Dwailing, 25 décembre 2012 - 07:57 .


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Remember that time when an actual developer said there wouldn't be any additional ending content? Me neither.

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BleedingUranium

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Dwailing wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...
*snip*

The loss of life on our homeworlds makes it easy to believe that this moment is the end of the world or the end of the galaxy, but I cannot believe that. Since time was first recorded, there have been thousands of supposed prophets telling myths about when the end will come, and they have all been proven wrong. We will make it through this, too… but it will be a fight to get there.

Good work.

–Admiral Hackett


I thought that last bit was interesting, in regards to ME endings and the Theories.


Yeah, it is interesting.  And it could also be a reference to Chris, the devs, and all the times we've heard that the ending is the ending.


This part too:

Earth remains the symbol of what we can accomplish and what we cannot accomplish – yet.

Dwailing wrote...

Of course, it could also just be a reference to, you know, the war. We can't know for certain.


Well, that's what it is, taken at face value Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...
*snip*

The loss of life on our homeworlds makes it easy to believe that this moment is the end of the world or the end of the galaxy, but I cannot believe that. Since time was first recorded, there have been thousands of supposed prophets telling myths about when the end will come, and they have all been proven wrong. We will make it through this, too… but it will be a fight to get there.

Good work.

–Admiral Hackett


I thought that last bit was interesting, in regards to ME endings and the Theories.


Yeah, it is interesting.  And it could also be a reference to Chris, the devs, and all the times we've heard that the ending is the ending.


This part too:

Earth remains the symbol of what we can accomplish and what we cannot accomplish – yet.

Dwailing wrote...

Of course, it could also just be a reference to, you know, the war. We can't know for certain.


Well, that's what it is, taken at face value Posted Image


You know, if this IS a message about the endings, then I do find that bit about Earth very interesting.  I feel like it means something, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

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Woah! Maybe Javik isn't so bad after all!

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Rifneno wrote...

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Woah! Maybe Javik isn't so bad after all!


Oh man, I don't hate Allers, but that is VERY funny.

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Merry Christmas everyone!!!

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Merry Christmas TJ!

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Happy Holidays All! Been taking a break from ME for awhile...just need some distance to contemplate things for awhile...but it sure is hard to stay completely away...hopefully my Shep will be back in the saddle before I know it, making sure the Reapers go down in flames!

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Happy Holidays All! Been taking a break from ME for awhile...just need some distance to contemplate things for awhile...but it sure is hard to stay completely away...hopefully my Shep will be back in the saddle before I know it, making sure the Reapers go down in flames!

Hell yeah!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Happy Holidays All! Been taking a break from ME for awhile...just need some distance to contemplate things for awhile...but it sure is hard to stay completely away...hopefully my Shep will be back in the saddle before I know it, making sure the Reapers go down in flames!

Hell yeah!


:devil:

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Andromidius wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

 Saw this on a literal video about why IT was bad. I thought it fit IT to a T instead of what they were saying about a demo of non-bad writing

Characters:

Chekov = Shepard
The Melkotions = the Reapers
Spock = the enlightened player Byne
Kirk and McCoy = the rest of us
Setting = decision chambers

Dude that's awesome! It's like the original Matrix.


i know and the saddest part was it was in a video from a guy trying to show why IT is not the correct interpretation for bad writing. Worse he ripped the acavyos vid gave credit and was basically doing it like an analysis o the acavyos vid lol


That was the straw that made me unsub him.  He had the answer to his questions, he knew the argument, he agreed with the argument...

And then says IT is wrong and stupid anyway.

Un-****ing-believable dishonesty.

That scene with Spock fits the premise of an indoctrination hallucination perfectly - if you know its false, and you know you can't trust what you can see, you can fight it and maybe break free from it (though how how long its impossible to tell) and you need complete conviction and willpower.

Wasn't he also the one who made the argument that if too much information is played over each other then it makes no sense, therefore the argument is wrong or incoherent?  Ignoring that if you played every passage from Grey's Antomy recited by the same person at the same time it would also make no sense?  Or that if something requires too much questions then it must be wrong, ignoring that's how human minds and science works?

URGH.  Pseudo-intellectuals.


"Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. Where the laws do not operate, there is no reality. All of this is unreal."

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Mr Spock, telling it like it is since the 1960s.

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Eryri wrote...
"Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. Where the laws do not operate, there is no reality. All of this is unreal."

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Mr Spock, telling it like it is since the 1960s.


:D

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We should grow an IT Spock

edit: DXHR movie teaser way too shiny, where's the orange and amber colors :?

Modifié par Norlond, 25 décembre 2012 - 09:28 .


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I've been venturing outside of this thread for the first time in ages, and it truly amazes me how many people are ****ing about certain things that don't make sense, but won't accept IT which makes them make perfect sense. Like that breath scene. Seriously, I'm just in awe of it.

On an unrelated note, I know there's rule 34, but there's just a crazy amount of prothean porn out there. And I'm not even looking for it, I'm just trying to find funny stuff and I keep getting prothean porn. So very wrong.

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Rifneno wrote...

I've been venturing outside of this thread for the first time in ages, and it truly amazes me how many people are ****ing about certain things that don't make sense, but won't accept IT which makes them make perfect sense. Like that breath scene. Seriously, I'm just in awe of it.

On an unrelated note, I know there's rule 34, but there's just a crazy amount of prothean porn out there. And I'm not even looking for it, I'm just trying to find funny stuff and I keep getting prothean porn. So very wrong.


Did you see this in that Cerberus thread we were in?

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Quarians: Conflicted about the Geth solution.
Geth: Committed Genocide against the Quarians


Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I'm not surprised people don't get the ending, when they can't even understand something like this. Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I've been venturing outside of this thread for the first time in ages, and it truly amazes me how many people are ****ing about certain things that don't make sense, but won't accept IT which makes them make perfect sense. Like that breath scene. Seriously, I'm just in awe of it.

On an unrelated note, I know there's rule 34, but there's just a crazy amount of prothean porn out there. And I'm not even looking for it, I'm just trying to find funny stuff and I keep getting prothean porn. So very wrong.


Did you see this in that Cerberus thread we were in?

DeathScepter wrote...

Quarians: Conflicted about the Geth solution.
Geth: Committed Genocide against the Quarians


Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I'm not surprised people don't get the ending, when they can't even understand something like this. Posted Image

I know. There is no problem with IT. It's the people. Posted Image

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Rifneno wrote...

On an unrelated note, I know there's rule 34, but there's just a crazy amount of prothean porn out there. And I'm not even looking for it, I'm just trying to find funny stuff and I keep getting prothean porn. So very wrong.


I'm surprised there isn't a, "Javik for ME4 LI," thread yet. *Cue a "Javik for ME4 LI" thread appearing*

Modifié par Dwailing, 25 décembre 2012 - 09:37 .


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Ho ho ho!


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Rifneno wrote...

I've been venturing outside of this thread for the first time in ages, and it truly amazes me how many people are ****ing about certain things that don't make sense, but won't accept IT which makes them make perfect sense. Like that breath scene. Seriously, I'm just in awe of it.


I don't much like going outside this thread. I get strangely conflicted. I was reading one thread where vehemently pro and anti - ending literalists were having a fierce argument, and I didn't know who to root for. On the one hand the anti-enders wanted post breath-scene dlc, as do I, but their bitterness and anger towards Bioware was quite depressing. On the other, the pro -enders were too far the other way. Bioware could do no wrong in their eyes, and the literal endings were perfect as they were.

I think this thread strikes a good balance. We're appreciative of what Bioware does right, but we're not afraid to provide constructive criticism when they don't hit their usual high standard.

Modifié par Eryri, 25 décembre 2012 - 09:40 .