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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Rifneno wrote...

WTF? I started another playthrough and I was in Vancouver pretty much taking in the sights. I can't get enough of those shots of the capital ships. The sheer scope of them is just incredible.


Sounds like you are in a superstitious awe. :devil:

Just like Vega on Palaven's moon.

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If you "love" the possibilities of anything bar destroy (even that is pushing it) you are mental imo

That's why Synthesis is called "Harmony of Man and Machine" by the devs. So you basically just called them mental.


Can you take that stick out from up your arse please? 

Are they going to call it "Wrong Choice 1", "Saren's Plan", "Indoctrination 1" or something...giving it away. That is what is "we see in the ending" - Doesn't rule out anything to do with IT. You're very depressing to listen to 


They actually did call control BadEnd01 or something like that.


That's the name for Control (Between that, and the creepy speech and creepy music, there's no way I'm choosing Control.).  I don't know if there's actually a file for Synthesis.

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Humakt83 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

WTF? I started another playthrough and I was in Vancouver pretty much taking in the sights. I can't get enough of those shots of the capital ships. The sheer scope of them is just incredible.


Sounds like you are in a superstitious awe. :devil:

Just like Vega on Palaven's moon.


There's a difference between superstitious awe and respecting your enemy.  Remember that chat Garrus and Javik have with that one crew member?

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CoolioThane wrote...

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CoolioThane wrote...

If you "love" the possibilities of anything bar destroy (even that is pushing it) you are mental imo

That's why Synthesis is called "Harmony of Man and Machine" by the devs. So you basically just called them mental.


Can you take that stick out from up your arse please? 

Are they going to call it "Wrong Choice 1", "Saren's Plan", "Indoctrination 1" or something...giving it away. That is what is "we see in the ending" - Doesn't rule out anything to do with IT. You're very depressing to listen to

I fail to see where I've got a stick up my arse or where I'm depressing.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

If you "love" the possibilities of anything bar destroy (even that is pushing it) you are mental imo

That's why Synthesis is called "Harmony of Man and Machine" by the devs. So you basically just called them mental.


Can you take that stick out from up your arse please? 

Are they going to call it "Wrong Choice 1", "Saren's Plan", "Indoctrination 1" or something...giving it away. That is what is "we see in the ending" - Doesn't rule out anything to do with IT. You're very depressing to listen to

I fail to see where I've got a stick up my arse or where I'm depressing.


Maybe that's the problem.

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Andromidius wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

If you "love" the possibilities of anything bar destroy (even that is pushing it) you are mental imo

That's why Synthesis is called "Harmony of Man and Machine" by the devs. So you basically just called them mental.


Can you take that stick out from up your arse please? 

Are they going to call it "Wrong Choice 1", "Saren's Plan", "Indoctrination 1" or something...giving it away. That is what is "we see in the ending" - Doesn't rule out anything to do with IT. You're very depressing to listen to

I fail to see where I've got a stick up my arse or where I'm depressing.

Maybe that's the problem.

Maybe the problem is not me? :D

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So recently I bludgeoned a caged priest to death with a rusted mace in the name of Molag Bal.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...
I fail to see where I've got a stick up my arse or where I'm depressing.


Everywhere. I for one, always picture you only like that. But I'm kinky that way. ))

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

So recently I bludgeoned a caged priest to death with a rusted mace in the name of Molag Bal.


That's okay, Boethia's a dick too.

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Dwailing wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

WTF? I started another playthrough and I was in Vancouver pretty much taking in the sights. I can't get enough of those shots of the capital ships. The sheer scope of them is just incredible.


Sounds like you are in a superstitious awe. :devil:

Just like Vega on Palaven's moon.


There's a difference between superstitious awe and respecting your enemy.  Remember that chat Garrus and Javik have with that one crew member?


Garrus respects the enemy. Vega sounds to me like he is in awe.

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masster blaster wrote...

Lex I haven't read the books, but my Aunt has them, and she said I could read them. I have however do watch the show, and I love it.

I've read the books, but I've never had the time to see the TV series. 

Seriously, read the books. They're absolutely awesome.

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One last off topic bit:

Assassin Khajiit's are awesome. I've named mine Ka'sumi

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 27 décembre 2012 - 01:20 .


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Hey guys, been away for a while ( indoctrinated lool )

Anyways just read some threads about a dlc coming out on 1st quarter 2013 being probably about indoctrination.. just wanted to ask if you guys can point me to something more substancial related to the next upcoming dlc .... My hopes are off the roof for this one :)

Is there any chance it can be like a epilogue?

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Ashep123 wrote...

One last time,
What does Shepard see in his dream after the kids burns (that the audience does not see) before he wakes up?


sorry I could t answer you cause of sleep. I was dreaming to see if I could answer it :P  Actually up until the fire scene we know. Everything after up till Shepard wakes up we don't know what he may have seen. It could have stopped there or something else worse came to wake him. Shepard never explains to anyone about his dreams nor does the game explain it. 

So two things. It could be nothing (likely it is) or it could be Shepard's worse nightmare beyond the kid burning. 

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Humakt83 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

WTF? I started another playthrough and I was in Vancouver pretty much taking in the sights. I can't get enough of those shots of the capital ships. The sheer scope of them is just incredible.


Sounds like you are in a superstitious awe. :devil:

Just like Vega on Palaven's moon.


There's a difference between superstitious awe and respecting your enemy.  Remember that chat Garrus and Javik have with that one crew member?


Garrus respects the enemy. Vega sounds to me like he is in awe.


Actually, I was talking about Rif. :P

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CoolioThane wrote...

Golly. IT must be false because more people don't believe in it (whether or not that be due to lack of knowledge about it, or to an ignorance and love of whining/complaining about anything).

Those open to it but still choose to believe literal make no sense to me. Literally I'm at a loss for words.


Though this thread has 451 believers of civil discussion about IT other great community things

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You know, some people claim Starbinger's logic isn't circular and makes perfect sense.

Okay, here's an analogy I just thought up.

The Police force realises that people keep being robbed, despite their best efforts to catch the theives and stop this from happening. So they come up with a plan to hire people to rob the houses of everyone with a certain amount of money so they won't be robbed by someone else. Every time someone gets a certain amount, they rob them as well. Only they get the people they robbed previously to do the robbing. And they randomly leave the money they've robbed out in the street for anyone to find. And when they pick up the money, they rob them of it as well.

That's the level of logic we're talking about here. Circular and insane and sadistic.

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Andromidius wrote...

I'm so sick of whatever Bioware did to Geth in MP. They are officially now my most hated opponant on Silver. They just don't stop coming, they cloak, bombers, they take too much punishment and dish it back out far too much. Seriously, what were the balance team thinking? I don't even get staggered anymore, they just kill me instantly!


gety were the race without instakills. Gotta add that somehow so they added swarm

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

I'm so sick of whatever Bioware did to Geth in MP. They are officially now my most hated opponant on Silver. They just don't stop coming, they cloak, bombers, they take too much punishment and dish it back out far too much. Seriously, what were the balance team thinking? I don't even get staggered anymore, they just kill me instantly!


gety were the race without instakills. Gotta add that somehow so they added swarm


You can add Sync-kills to my list of bull****.  I got Sync-killed twice last game (wave 10 and extraction, Reaper Gold) by Banshees with magnet-hands who grabbed me up even though i was well out of arm's reach!

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Have anyone ever came up with the idea that Starchild is Sovvy uploaded onto the Citadel ?? As an attempt to retake the control of the keepers ?? Idea just came to me ..
Maybe is destruction was just an ilusion and his plan was to try to retake control of the keepers and the citadel by rehacking them .. .. or probably im high XD !!

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Power Up wrote...

Have anyone ever came up with the idea that Starchild is Sovvy uploaded onto the Citadel ?? As an attempt to retake the control of the keepers ?? Idea just came to me ..
Maybe is destruction was just an ilusion and his plan was to try to retake control of the keepers and the citadel by rehacking them .. .. or probably im high XD !!


That idea has floated around, yes.

And its a viable concept too, in my opinion.  Makes a lot of sense.  Even gives Cerberus a reason to attack the Citadel, if they were there to communicate with Sovereign or alter the systems on the Citadel to allow it to take control and hand it over to the Reapers.

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Power Up wrote...

Have anyone ever came up with the idea that Starchild is Sovvy uploaded onto the Citadel ?? As an attempt to retake the control of the keepers ?? Idea just came to me ..
Maybe is destruction was just an ilusion and his plan was to try to retake control of the keepers and the citadel by rehacking them .. .. or probably im high XD !!


Yes we have considered it here. It is a possibility. 

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The only problem would be how could we see starchild if IT.. you know with the London rubble and all that

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Also another common argument I see is that Shepard can only be shown to have long-term indoctrination symptoms, and that IT suggests it all suddenly 'speeds up'.

Well, look at many long term illnesses. They can progress very slowly, over years, barely noticed. Then suddenly they flare up, have rapid symptoms and then kill you. Since indoctrination is a biological effect on the brain, it makes some sort of sense that long term effects would slowly change the way the brain thinks, and then when it reaches a certain stage it will then have sudden and dramatic effects as control is taken from the victim.

Not to mention certain conditions can accellerate conditions. Like, I don't know, having the oldest and largest Reaper who's been taking personal interest in Shepard for the last two years show up in person, landing only a few hundred meters away?

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Power Up wrote...

The only problem would be how could we see starchild if IT.. you know with the London rubble and all that


Its all a hallucination, formed from familar surroundings and images?  Which is exactly what we see during that scene.