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[401 Kill]

Krimzie wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The Carnifex turning into a Predator is another one for me.

I... I have never seen this. All the stuff I've torn into and---whoa. 

Also, hi everyone!

Hello! 

Did you know that the Carnefix is used in scenes that are associated with... I really can't find the word... Badness? And the Predator is used in better circumstances. Saren kills Nihlus with the Carnefix. Saren and TIM also kill themselves with the Predator. The Carnefix is used to betray Mordin. 

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

[Andromidius]

401 Kill wrote...
I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

You can kill the VS with the Carnifex as well.  And Wrex.  And I think Legion as well.  And Samara's daughter.

You free the Rachni Queen with a Predator.  You can kill Legion and Samara's daughter with the Predator, though.

Modifié par Andromidius, 27 décembre 2012 - 09:38 .

[LadySuspense]

(From the collector's edition guide to mass effect 3page 323)
"If you imported a save where the collector's base was saved, then these are your possible endings:
*If your Readiness Rating is below 1,750 points, Earth is destroyed regardless of the choice to destroy the Reapers or become one.
*At a 1,750 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed.
*At a 2.050 Readiness Rating, if you choose to become a Reaper, Earth is saved.
*At a 2,350 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers, Earth is devastated but still there.
*At a 2,650 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers, Earth is saved.
*At a 2,800 Readiness Rating, you're able to create synergy between organics and synthetics, saving Earth and the galaxy.
*At a 4,000 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers and "saved" Anderson, Shepard lives.
*At a 5,000 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers and did not :save" Anderson, Shepard lives.
If you imported a save where the collector's base was destroyed or you didn't import a Mass Effect 2 save, then these are your possible endings:
*If your Readiness Rating is below 1.750 points, Earth is destroyed regardless of the choice to destroy the Reapers or become one.
*At a 1,750 Readiness Rating, if you choose to become a Reaper, Earth is destroyed.
*At a 1,900 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers, Earth is devastated but still there.
*At a 2,350 Readiness Rating, if you choose to become a Reaper, Earth is saved.
*At a 2,650 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers, Earth is saved.
*At a 2,800 Readiness Rating, you re able to create a synergy between organics and synthetics, saving Earth and the galaxy.
*At a 4,000 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers and "saved" Anderson, Shepard lives.
*At a 5,000 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers and did not "save" Anderson, Shepard lives"

[401 Kill]

Andromidius wrote...

401 Kill wrote...
I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

You can kill the VS with the Carnifex as well.  And Wrex.  And I think Legion as well.  And Samara's daughter.

You free the Rachni Queen with a Predator.

Thank you! I knew I was missing some!

[masster blaster]

401 Kill wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The Carnifex turning into a Predator is another one for me.

I... I have never seen this. All the stuff I've torn into and---whoa. 

Also, hi everyone!

Hello! 

Did you know that the Carnefix is used in scenes that are associated with... I really can't find the word... Badness? And the Predator is used in better circumstances. Saren kills Nihlus with the Carnefix. Saren and TIM also kill themselves with the Predator. The Carnefix is used to betray Mordin. 

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

um so killing Legion with a Predator is good. Well optional, but so is Mordins.

[umadcommander]

401 Kill wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The Carnifex turning into a Predator is another one for me.

I... I have never seen this. All the stuff I've torn into and---whoa. 

Also, hi everyone!

Hello! 

Did you know that the Carnefix is used in scenes that are associated with... I really can't find the word... Badness? And the Predator is used in better circumstances. Saren kills Nihlus with the Carnefix. Saren and TIM also kill themselves with the Predator. The Carnefix is used to betray Mordin. 

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

the gun mordin gives to you in good faith and you can shoot him in the back with it

[Andromidius]

401 Kill wrote...
Thank you! I knew I was missing some!

Edited some mistakes, Legion and Samara's daughter.

But there's a big list of bad things that happens with the Carnifex.

[masster blaster]

umadcommander wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The Carnifex turning into a Predator is another one for me.

I... I have never seen this. All the stuff I've torn into and---whoa. 

Also, hi everyone!

Hello! 

Did you know that the Carnefix is used in scenes that are associated with... I really can't find the word... Badness? And the Predator is used in better circumstances. Saren kills Nihlus with the Carnefix. Saren and TIM also kill themselves with the Predator. The Carnefix is used to betray Mordin. 

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

the gun mordin gives to you in good faith and you can shoot him in the back with it

Oh my I forgot about that. Wow!

[BleedingUranium]

401 Kill wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The Carnifex turning into a Predator is another one for me.

I... I have never seen this. All the stuff I've torn into and---whoa. 

Also, hi everyone!

Hello! 

Did you know that the Carnefix is used in scenes that are associated with... I really can't find the word... Badness? And the Predator is used in better circumstances. Saren kills Nihlus with the Carnefix. Saren and TIM also kill themselves with the Predator. The Carnefix is used to betray Mordin. 

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

Yep, Saren only uses a pistol twice: once to kill Nihlus because of indoctrination (Carnifex), and the other time to kill himself to break free of indoctrination (Predator). Fai Dan, the Thorian-controlled leader of Zhu's Hope, also kills himself with a Predator. Everytime you fight Kai Leng you have one, you (and your squadmates) have them when facing the VS, who has a Carnifex, during the Citadel coup. You free the Rachni queen from the Reapers with one. I'm sure there are more.

Also, the first four shots are Carnifex gunshots, but the rest are Predator gunshots, and it changes right when the camera does the close up of Shepard, when her resolve seems to strengthen. According to Megumi, all of these gunshots are not caused by the gun firing, but added after the fact, like a voice over.

There's no way around it being intentional, and there's no explaination for that that doesn't involve symbolism. And the only symbolism that could be there is fighting off indoctrination.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 27 décembre 2012 - 09:43 .

[Andromidius]

BleedingUranium wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The Carnifex turning into a Predator is another one for me.

I... I have never seen this. All the stuff I've torn into and---whoa. 

Also, hi everyone!

Hello! 

Did you know that the Carnefix is used in scenes that are associated with... I really can't find the word... Badness? And the Predator is used in better circumstances. Saren kills Nihlus with the Carnefix. Saren and TIM also kill themselves with the Predator. The Carnefix is used to betray Mordin. 

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

Fai Dan, the Thorian-controlled leader of Zhu's Hope, also kills himself with a Predator. Everytime you fight Kai Leng you have one, you (and your squadmates) have them when facing the VS, who has a Carnifex, during the Citadel coup. You free the Rachni queen from the Reapers with one. I'm sure there are more.

Also, the first four shots are Carnifex gunshots, but the rest are Predator gunshots, and it changes right when the camera does the close up of Shepard, when her resolve seems to strengthen. According to Megumi, all of these gunshots are not caused by the gun firing, but added after the fact, like a voice over.

There's no way around it being intentional, and there's no explaination for that that doesn't involve symbolism. And the only symbolism that could be there is fighting off indoctrination.

Not to mention Anderson is the one originally with the Carnifex, but on the Citadel he's got a Predator (which TIM takes from him).  Its very symbolic of Anderson being the 'good' side of Shepard's psyche, and having his strength taken from him and twisted by the 'bad' side.

Edit: I also checked when Saren shoots a Keeper.  He's got a Geth Pulse Rifle (firing it one handed!), though it sounds like a Predator.  I think he uses a pistol during his boss fights, though?

Modifié par Andromidius, 27 décembre 2012 - 09:46 .

[LadySuspense]

Btw what I was getting at is that the official guide even seems to reference the saving of Anderson as air quotsie.

[umadcommander]

masster blaster wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The Carnifex turning into a Predator is another one for me.

I... I have never seen this. All the stuff I've torn into and---whoa. 

Also, hi everyone!

Hello! 

Did you know that the Carnefix is used in scenes that are associated with... I really can't find the word... Badness? And the Predator is used in better circumstances. Saren kills Nihlus with the Carnefix. Saren and TIM also kill themselves with the Predator. The Carnefix is used to betray Mordin. 

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

the gun mordin gives to you in good faith and you can shoot him in the back with it

Oh my I forgot about that. Wow!

i cant do a renegade playthrough of ME3, too much betrayal for me to stomach

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Andromidius wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Krimzie wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The Carnifex turning into a Predator is another one for me.

I... I have never seen this. All the stuff I've torn into and---whoa. 

Also, hi everyone!

Hello! 

Did you know that the Carnefix is used in scenes that are associated with... I really can't find the word... Badness? And the Predator is used in better circumstances. Saren kills Nihlus with the Carnefix. Saren and TIM also kill themselves with the Predator. The Carnefix is used to betray Mordin. 

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.

Fai Dan, the Thorian-controlled leader of Zhu's Hope, also kills himself with a Predator. Everytime you fight Kai Leng you have one, you (and your squadmates) have them when facing the VS, who has a Carnifex, during the Citadel coup. You free the Rachni queen from the Reapers with one. I'm sure there are more.

Also, the first four shots are Carnifex gunshots, but the rest are Predator gunshots, and it changes right when the camera does the close up of Shepard, when her resolve seems to strengthen. According to Megumi, all of these gunshots are not caused by the gun firing, but added after the fact, like a voice over.

There's no way around it being intentional, and there's no explaination for that that doesn't involve symbolism. And the only symbolism that could be there is fighting off indoctrination.

Not to mention Anderson is the one originally with the Carnifex, but on the Citadel he's got a Predator (which TIM takes from him).  Its very symbolic of Anderson being the 'good' side of Shepard's psyche, and having his strength taken from him and twisted by the 'bad' side.

Where did Andersons Predator come from anyway? Right before the beam run he holds up a Carnifex clearly for us to see. Yet it is a Predator TIM takes from him. Might obviusly be a back up weapon, but still curious.

Also if you **** up so much that Wrex comes to kill you on the Citadel, guess which weapon you take him out with should you choose to do it yourself.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 27 décembre 2012 - 09:49 .

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

Edit: I also checked when Saren shoots a Keeper.  He's got a Geth Pulse Rifle (firing it one handed!), though it sounds like a Predator.  I think he uses a pistol during his boss fights, though?

I've never seen the fight, but he probably does. Him shooting the Keeper is hilarious though. He fires it one handed, and only fires one shot, but it explodes

[Eryri]

Does anyone know what the threshold is for seeing the breath scene, post EC, with or without Anderson's survival? I read that you need 3100 ems to see all the scenes, but I can't find out if Anderson's death increases that.

[Andromidius]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Where did Andersons Predator come from anyway?

Probably the same place he pulls the extra Predator he has during the intro Earth mission.

From his 'back pocket'.

[BleedingUranium]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Where did Andersons Predator come from anyway? Right before the beam run he holds up a Carnifex clearly for us to see. Yet it is a Predator TIM takes from him. Might obviusly be a back up weapon, but still curious.

Also if you **** up so much that Wrex comes to kill you on the Citadel, guess which weapon you take him out with should you choose to do it yourself.

Exactly!

Carnifex for the lose!

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Where did Andersons Predator come from anyway?

Probably the same place he pulls the extra Predator he has during the intro Earth mission.

From his 'back pocket'.

Same place the literalists pull all their headcanon from

[LadySuspense]

Wow this Carnifex vs. Predator is really interesting. Really interesting. Wow if more people could even entertain the idea of IT then Bioware's reputation wouldn't be continually tarnished.

[CoolioThane]

Anyone fancy some MP? (360)

[LadySuspense]

Sorry strictly ps3 now. (No gold,)

[Andromidius]

LadySuspense wrote...

Wow this Carnifex vs. Predator is really interesting. Really interesting. Wow if more people could even entertain the idea of IT then Bioware's reputation wouldn't be continually tarnished.

IT is pretty much the reason why I stopped being angry at Bioware.

Though they still make me angry, for other reasons.  But I'm not raging anymore.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Where did Andersons Predator come from anyway? Right before the beam run he holds up a Carnifex clearly for us to see. Yet it is a Predator TIM takes from him. Might obviusly be a back up weapon, but still curious.

Also if you **** up so much that Wrex comes to kill you on the Citadel, guess which weapon you take him out with should you choose to do it yourself.

Exactly!

Carnifex for the lose!

The only case of not Canifex for the lose seems to be killing Legion. Though why I cant quite comprehend.

[TheProtheans]

LadySuspense wrote...

Wow this Carnifex vs. Predator is really interesting. Really interesting. Wow if more people could even entertain the idea of IT then Bioware's reputation wouldn't be continually tarnished.

That is not something I want to see.
Bad work needs to be recognized as bad work.

[Andromidius]

TheProtheans wrote...

Bad work needs to be recognized as bad work.

Sure.  When the work actually is bad.

Which this isn't. 

So no.