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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Hanako Ikezawa

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spotlessvoid wrote...

LDS

Not going to lie. I didn't read it. You know why. But clearly you worked hard on it. Plus, you limited yourself to one picture lol. So good job. Something that massive probably deserves a thread created. I'm sure after working hard on it you'd like some feedback. Best way to get the most people commenting on it is to make a thread.

I know, that's why I posted it picture-free, minus the one of course, on this thread. I'll probably make a thread for it on a later date, but for now it's serving it's purpose of a testament to my support of IT.

Also, if it helps since it's picture-free, just imagine it from a book and not from an anime. Or just read this part:
     While creating this comparison between the Homunculi and Reapers, I came to a conclusion. That conclusion was that the Reapers aren't to be trusted. Now I know that sounds obvious, but I mean that their motives, whether or not Catalyst is honest about them when telling you, are not to be trusted. Coming to that revelation, while working on this and spending time here, I have now reached the point to which I can sincerely state that I SUPPORT THE INDOCTRINATION THEORY! While I may disagree with minor details about it and will feel not enjoy the Mass Effect franchise any less without it, I now em,brace the IT concept for my own and offer this as a testament to my resolve and support of everything you ladies and gentlemen have built here.    

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@Maximized Nice avatar!

@Everyone Should I take off my hat now?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

@Maximized Nice avatar!

@Everyone Should I take off my hat now?

If you want. I always leave all my Christmas stuff up until New Years, but that's just a personal reference.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

@Maximized Nice avatar!

@Everyone Should I take off my hat now?


Heck no!  Leave it on, at least until New Year's.

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@LDS, I read your comparison, really liked it, still trying to sort all the things in my head *confused*
makes me think about the pattern mentioned by Vendetta again for some reason (btw, in my opinion: the Intelligence =/= master of the pattern)

@banshee NO! ;)

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Norlond wrote...

@LDS, I read your comparison, really liked it, still trying to sort all the things in my head *confused*
makes me think about the pattern mentioned by Vendetta again for some reason (btw, in my opinion: the Intelligence =/= master of the pattern)

Thank you for reading and liking it.Posted Image
I understand, but I personally do think the Catalyst is responsible for the patterns. And even if it's proven if the Catalyst isn't the master, I can easily change it.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 29 décembre 2012 - 01:02 .


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Okay! On till New Year's!

@Swoby Glad he made the right decision. ;)

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Norlond wrote...

Vent Boy: "You can't help- HEY!!!"
*femshep grabs ventboy by neck scruff, tosses ventboy over ledge*
Vent Boy (falling:) "I want my two dollaaaarrrrrs!!!"
*indoc growl*
Anderson: "JESUS, SHEPARD!!!"
FemShep: "Yeah. This is my fifth playthrough. Seriously: F*** that ending."
Anderson: "What?!!"
FemShep: "Come on. We're gathering resources to build a stasis facility... WITH solar panels this time and designed by decent electrical engineers; I don't want to end up like f***ing Ksad Ishan or Commander Javik..."


Shut up and take my credits B)

AWESOME!

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Rifneno wrote...

BTW, not IT related but an interesting catch... someone pointed out that those statues of the Inusannon on Ilos bear a lot of resemblance to adjutants. Adjutants are mentioned in the codex of being based off the DNA of an unknown species long ago destroyed by the Reapers and forgotten. So it's quite possible if not likely that adjutants are Reaperized Inusannon.

Yes yes. I agree. I thought they would be even before I saw them actually.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I understand, but I personally do. And even if it's proven if the Catalyst isn't the master, I can easily change it.


To clarify my opinion: I don't think the Intelligence is the master of the pattern, because Vendetta mentioned that in each cycle, intelligent life emerges from the same galactic locations and develops (technologically) similarly to previous species (link)
I don't think any Intelligence is able to control that, unless Space Magic :wizard:
From my point of view, the Intelligence is a servant of the pattern as well

I always call it "Intelligence" because as far as I know, Leviathan always uses that term, not "AI", so we can't say if the Intelligence is synthetic (like Starchild), organic (like idk) or both (like Harby)

edit: have some lols ^_^

Modifié par Norlond, 29 décembre 2012 - 01:22 .


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Norlond wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I understand, but I personally do. And even if it's proven if the Catalyst isn't the master, I can easily change it.


To clarify my opinion: I don't think the Intelligence is the master of the pattern, because Vendetta mentioned that in each cycle, intelligent life emerges from the same galactic locations and develops (technologically) similarly to previous species (link)
I don't think any Intelligence is able to control that, unless Space Magic :wizard:
From my point of view, the Intelligence is a servant of the pattern as well

I always call it "Intelligence" because as far as I know, Leviathan always uses that term, not "AI", so we can't say if the Intelligence is synthetic (like Starchild), organic (like idk) or both (like Harby)

Oh, i don't mean that he is the master that far (I know who is but let's not bring religion into this place). When I state that he's the master, I'm referring to how sovereign says that the galactic races are guided, or herded, by Reaper technology. He is a servent as in he doesn't create, but leads the cycle for his means, just like Father didn't create Amestris, but leads it to serve his plan. As for the Intelligence's true identity, I have no reason to believe it isn't Catalyst until proven otherwise, but that is just personal interpretation plus not having all the facts presented.

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Rifneno wrote...

WTF? There's a thread about wanting to be able to talk Harbinger into joining you. I think I'm having an aneurysm...


LOL, Harbinger would never join us...but luckily for us WE can join Harbinger! Posted Image

Modifié par Genetic Destiny, 29 décembre 2012 - 01:21 .


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LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Oh, i don't mean that he is the master that far (I know who is but let's not bring religion into this place). When I state that he's the master, I'm referring to how sovereign says that the galactic races are guided, or herded, by Reaper technology. He is a servent as in he doesn't create, but leads the cycle for his means, just like Father didn't create Amestris, but leads it to serve his plan.


Oh you mean THAT master :lol:
Yeah, on that point I agree with you

As for the Intelligence's true identity, I have no reason to believe it
isn't Catalyst until proven otherwise, but that is just personal
interpretation plus not having all the facts presented.


As I said, I have no idea who or what the Intelligence is, but I understand why some/most people think it's the catalyst and I accept it, it's just not my opinion, maybe I'm just giving it too much thought ^_^
Freedom of opinion for everyone!


edited post above for lols btw

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Norlond wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Oh, i don't mean that he is the master that far (I know who is but let's not bring religion into this place). When I state that he's the master, I'm referring to how sovereign says that the galactic races are guided, or herded, by Reaper technology. He is a servent as in he doesn't create, but leads the cycle for his means, just like Father didn't create Amestris, but leads it to serve his plan.


Oh you mean THAT master :lol:
Yeah, on that point I agree with you

As for the Intelligence's true identity, I have no reason to believe it
isn't Catalyst until proven otherwise, but that is just personal
interpretation plus not having all the facts presented.


As I said, I have no idea who or what the Intelligence is, but I understand why some/most people think it's the catalyst and I accept it, it's just not my opinion, maybe I'm just giving it too much thought ^_^
Freedom of opinion for everyone!


edited post above for lols btw

Grr. I anted that galaxy map as a picture but couldn't find one, so settled for a Mass Relay.
Also, watching both epic fails with TSFH music has made it the epitome of epic fails videos.Posted Image

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 29 décembre 2012 - 01:32 .


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SwobyJ wrote...

Hey everyone! I have a month of posts to catch up on but...

My boyfriend beat the game and picked Destroy! He didn't even approach toward Control, and he only asked me what Refuse is (not what it does, just what the choice is, aka 'What will happen if I shoot the hologram child?'), but... he did look towards Synthesis and head towards it a bit before moving to Destroy and pow pow pow with the gun :P

And now I can finally show him IT videos -_-. Even *if* IT isn't true in the end, it's still fun to talk about.

Sooo... you're indoctrinating him now:lol:

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You know, I never realised that ME3 Maleshep artwork had the renegade scars until I got my new monitor. Crazy.

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SwobyJ wrote...

My boyfriend beat the game and picked Destroy!


FEELS SO GOOD TO BE 

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Good to see you again, Swoby! :D

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+ that destroy ending picture appears to show reaper ships in the background destroyed and exploding... the battle outside representing the battle of will between shep and the intelligence... maybe

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TheWill wrote...

+ that destroy ending picture appears to show reaper ships in the background destroyed and exploding... the battle outside representing the battle of will between shep and the intelligence... maybe

And if they can be seen in the background of the control ending as intact...

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TheWill wrote...

+ that destroy ending picture appears to show reaper ships in the background destroyed and exploding... the battle outside representing the battle of will between shep and the intelligence... maybe

That is weird, considering the Crucible doesn't destroy their hulls but instead destroys their cores, at least I assume.
Also, I don't believe we've met. Hello, my name is Selim Bradley.
http://ts4.mm.bing.n...155387&pid=15.1

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 29 décembre 2012 - 02:44 .


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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

TheWill wrote...

+ that destroy ending picture appears to show reaper ships in the background destroyed and exploding... the battle outside representing the battle of will between shep and the intelligence... maybe

That is weird, considering the Crucible doesn't destroy their hulls but instead destroys their cores, at least I assume.
Also, I don't believe we've met. Hello, my name is Selim Bradley.


Is that actually your name?

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byne wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

TheWill wrote...

+ that destroy ending picture appears to show reaper ships in the background destroyed and exploding... the battle outside representing the battle of will between shep and the intelligence... maybe

That is weird, considering the Crucible doesn't destroy their hulls but instead destroys their cores, at least I assume.
Also, I don't believe we've met. Hello, my name is Selim Bradley.


Is that actually your name?

Yes it is. That's why I use him for my reaction pictures because he has the same name and appearance as I do(unanimed and older of course though I was same age when series was created). Basically he is anime me so if you ever wondered what I look like, there you go.Posted Image

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 29 décembre 2012 - 03:17 .


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Mine is Matthew, if anyone is wondering. Though I'll decline giving my surname, since its rather unusual and my manballs aren't big enough to face potential consequences.

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Andromidius wrote...

Mine is Matthew, if anyone is wondering. Though I'll decline giving my surname, since its rather unusual and my manballs aren't big enough to face potential consequences.

Glad to finally know your name, Matthew. I prefer using names to usernames, but most prefer it the other way so I'll comply to the norm.

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I'm sitting here listening to Soviet Connection from Grand Theft Auto 4 on The Greatest Video Game Music (The album from the London Philharmonic Orchestra), and it makes me want to buy GTA 4.