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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Hanako Ikezawa

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paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

byne wrote...

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@byne
Did you read my wall of text, or at least the bottom, on page 2968?


Read the bottom bit, not the wall of text.

Welcome to IT! :D

Thanks. Happy to be here.Posted Image

Weren't you an ITist from the beginning? Posted Image


No, he actually used to be, of all things, a Synthesizer.  I know, crazy, right?

Not at all. Posted Image I'm a Control ITist. Posted Image

To accurately summarize my connection to IT: I was always accepting of it as a form for people to use to like the ending but supported Synthesis, then like I said, through this place and anime, I was slowly converted to being an ITer, but with the added bonus of still loving the literal endings if they turn out to be literal. That's why I wanted it as a Christmas gift to the IT thread, showing that they turned a Synthesiser to an Iter, but I was unable to complete my tribute in time so it came today instead.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

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I just realized, if Sam Hullick is doing the music for the new DLC, and if it IS something IT related, possibly even an epilogue, then we might just get something that calls back to the Suicide Mission theme, if not an actual remix of the Suicide Mission theme itself. I don't know if I could take so much awesome in one concentrated package.

Edit: My head could actually explode from the awesome.


Hate to burst your bubble, but Suicide Mission is a Jack Wall composition. I've been thinking of it as well, but I guess it can't happen unless Jack Wall returns for this.


Well.  Shoot. :mellow:  We must start a petition to get Jack Wall back. =]

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

byne wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

@byne
Did you read my wall of text, or at least the bottom, on page 2968?


Read the bottom bit, not the wall of text.

Welcome to IT! :D

Thanks. Happy to be here.Posted Image

Weren't you an ITist from the beginning? Posted Image


No, he actually used to be, of all things, a Synthesizer.  I know, crazy, right?

Not at all. Posted Image I'm a Control ITist. Posted Image

To accurately summarize my connection to IT: I was always accepting of it as a form for people to use to like the ending but supported Synthesis, then like I said, through this place and anime, I was slowly converted to being an ITer, but with the added bonus of still loving the literal endings if they turn out to be literal. That's why I wanted it as a Christmas gift to the IT thread, showing that they turned a Synthesiser to an Iter, but I was unable to complete my tribute in time so it came today instead.


The unthinkable was achieved! A literalist synthesizer supports IT! :o

Now all that's left for you to do is to pick destroy. :P

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Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 29 décembre 2012 - 04:16 .


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Everyone vote ME3 here: www.gamespot.com/best-of-2012/peoples-choice/ (you can sign in with either you GameSpot or GameFaqs account, both work) And if you don't have an account, make one! ME3 needs to win! For IT! :D

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IsaacShep wrote...

Everyone vote ME3 here: www.gamespot.com/best-of-2012/peoples-choice/ (you can sign in with either you GameSpot or GameFaqs account, both work) And if you don't have an account, make one! ME3 needs to win! For IT! :D


For once I agree with Isaac!  VOTE ME3!  The future of Earth, nay, the future of the GALAXY depends on it!

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The unthinkable was achieved! A literalist synthesizer supports IT! :o

Now all that's left for you to do is to pick destroy. :P

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I picked it while doing a trilogy runthrough as part of my project. Now to add a FMA:B equivilent quote:
"Making the decision to die is something only an idiot does!...I won't allow you to abandom the ability of hope and choose a meaningless death!" - Alphonse Elric to his brother Edward Elric

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 29 décembre 2012 - 04:32 .


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Dwailing wrote...

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Everyone vote ME3 here: www.gamespot.com/best-of-2012/peoples-choice/ (you can sign in with either you GameSpot or GameFaqs account, both work) And if you don't have an account, make one! ME3 needs to win! For IT! :D


For once I agree with Isaac!  VOTE ME3!  The future of Earth, nay, the future of the GALAXY depends on it!

Ditto! Vote ME3 and tell everyone you know, post on Twitter/Facebook, make GameSpot accounts and vote vote vote!!! All IT fans need to mobilize and unite!!! ME3 has to win!

Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 décembre 2012 - 04:30 .


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lex0r11 wrote...

People and their names, huh?

You can try and guess my first name. :D


r11?

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spotlessvoid wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

People and their names, huh?

You can try and guess my first name. :D


r11?

john jacob jingleheimer schmidt?

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 29 décembre 2012 - 04:37 .


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Dimitri?

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IsaacShep wrote...

Everyone vote ME3 here: www.gamespot.com/best-of-2012/peoples-choice/ (you can sign in with either you GameSpot or GameFaqs account, both work) And if you don't have an account, make one! ME3 needs to win! For IT! :D


You dont have to pretend like you like IT, you could just have asked us to vote.

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byne wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Everyone vote ME3 here: www.gamespot.com/best-of-2012/peoples-choice/ (you can sign in with either you GameSpot or GameFaqs account, both work) And if you don't have an account, make one! ME3 needs to win! For IT! :D


You dont have to pretend like you like IT, you could just have asked us to vote.


Oh come on Byne.  Now's not the time to let a little thing like ending interpretations get in the way.  He's just trying to get us to vote for ME3 for GOTY.

Edit: Even if he doesn't like it, he knows we do, and is trying to appeal to us in a way we understand.  Cut him some slack.

Modifié par Dwailing, 29 décembre 2012 - 04:44 .


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49.3% vs 50.7%

That's ridiculously close.

Strange that of all games, ME3 is put against Far Cry 3. A game with an ending that most players didn't get, riddled with hallucination and symbolism, that the creator passive-aggressively defended from critism.

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byne wrote...

You dont have to pretend like you like IT, you could just have asked us to vote.


....Indoctrinated presence detected?

Activating Security Honey Badger.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 29 décembre 2012 - 04:47 .


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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Everyone vote ME3 here: www.gamespot.com/best-of-2012/peoples-choice/ (you can sign in with either you GameSpot or GameFaqs account, both work) And if you don't have an account, make one! ME3 needs to win! For IT! :D


You dont have to pretend like you like IT, you could just have asked us to vote.


Oh come on Byne.  Now's not the time to let a little thing like ending interpretations get in the way.  He's just trying to get us to vote for ME3 for GOTY.

Edit: Even if he doesn't like it, he knows we do, and is trying to appeal to us in a way we understand.  Cut him some slack.


It just seems rather condescending to me. Or its like he thought "If I invoke IT, I can get these guys to do whatever I tell them to do!"

Maybe I'm just tired though.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

....Indoctrinated presence detected?

Activating Security Honey Badger.

Yes yes, activate these protocols here: www.gamespot.com/best-of-2012/peoples-choice/  :police:

byne wrote...

You dont have to pretend like you like IT, you could just have asked us to vote.

Less analyzing, more clicking! www.gamespot.com/best-of-2012/peoples-choice/ :police:

Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 décembre 2012 - 04:49 .


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I want a Javik avatar, damn it.

Too bad the DAO character creator thing doesn't work for me.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I want a Javik avatar, damn it.

Too bad the DAO character creator thing doesn't work for me.

John the club.Posted Image
At least you have him as your signature.Posted Image

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I want a Javik avatar, damn it.

Too bad the DAO character creator thing doesn't work for me.


I'm glad you went back to Jack. I forgot what your other avatar even was, I only know that I always preferred Jack.

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byne wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I want a Javik avatar, damn it.

Too bad the DAO character creator thing doesn't work for me.


I'm glad you went back to Jack. I forgot what your other avatar even was, I only know that I always preferred Jack.

He had a Batarian to play up the Doomsday Batarian in ME2.

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byne wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I want a Javik avatar, damn it.

Too bad the DAO character creator thing doesn't work for me.


I'm glad you went back to Jack. I forgot what your other avatar even was, I only know that I always preferred Jack.


Orange Salarian I think

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The rocket at the beginning of Charlie the Unicorn 4 saying "Space Magic" made me laugh harder than it should have.

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Javik (Re: Legion): Your synthetic ally is using Reaper code. That is a mistake.

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Shepard: Even if what you say is true, the Geth want to fight the Reapers as much as we do.
Javik: Did you ever consider the Geth may be trying to get rid of the competition? With the Reapers gone, the galaxy would be theirs for the taking.

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Councilor Tevos: Whether you know it or not, you have become the sole ray of light in a very dark night. Goddess be with you.

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Javik: This is what happens when you allow machines to think for you... you become slaves.

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Joker (about going to Eden Prime with Nihlus in ME1): I told you that mission was going to be bigger than we thought.
Shepard: I think we can mark that prediction down as accurate.
Joker: And now we're heading back to Earth.
Shepard: Is this mission going to be bigger than we thought too?
Joker: I hope not. A routine delivery run would be fine with me.

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Shepard (to Jack, FOB): I'll see you on the other side.

Kasumi (to Shepard, FOB): If you live through it, drinks are on me.

Jacob (to Shepard, FOB): There's this great little bar in Rio we have to check out.
Shepard: I'll hold you to it.

Shepard (to Miranda, FOB): This isn't goodbye. You have to believe we're not done yet.

Vega (to Shepard, FOB): So I guess this is it, no? One more push... one last fight.
Shepard: Not necessarily our last.

Wrex (FOB): Today we win our future!

Javik (to Shepard, FOB): The future is still out there. It is something my people could never say: There will be a tomorrow.
Shepard: Only if we win today.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Javik (Re: Legion): Your synthetic ally is using Reaper code. That is a mistake.

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Shepard: Even if what you say is true, the Geth want to fight the Reapers as much as we do.
Javik: Did you ever consider the Geth may be trying to get rid of the competition? With the Reapers gone, the galaxy would be theirs for the taking.

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Councilor Tevos: Whether you know it or not, you have become the sole ray of light in a very dark night. Goddess be with you.

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Javik: This is what happens when you allow machines to think for you... you become slaves.

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Joker (about going to Eden Prime with Nihlus in ME1): I told you that mission was going to be bigger than we thought.
Shepard: I think we can mark that prediction down as accurate.
Joker: And now we're heading back to Earth.
Shepard: Is this mission going to be bigger than we thought too?
Joker: I hope not. A routine delivery run would be fine with me.

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Shepard (to Jack, FOB): I'll see you on the other side.

Kasumi (to Shepard, FOB): If you live through it, drinks are on me.

Jacob (to Shepard, FOB): There's this great little bar in Rio we have to check out.
Shepard: I'll hold you to it.

Shepard (to Miranda, FOB): This isn't goodbye. You have to believe we're not done yet.

Vega (to Shepard, FOB): So I guess this is it, no? One more push... one last fight.
Shepard: Not necessarily our last.

Wrex (FOB): Today we win our future!

Javik (to Shepard, FOB): The future is still out there. It is something my people could never say: There will be a tomorrow.
Shepard: Only if we win today.

I don't think the stuff at the FOB, or at least most of it, is IT-related. Those are things said in like every war novel, movie, show, or game before the final fight.

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Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 29 décembre 2012 - 05:34 .


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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Javik (Re: Legion): Your synthetic ally is using Reaper code. That is a mistake.

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Shepard: Even if what you say is true, the Geth want to fight the Reapers as much as we do.
Javik: Did you ever consider the Geth may be trying to get rid of the competition? With the Reapers gone, the galaxy would be theirs for the taking.

------------------------------

Councilor Tevos: Whether you know it or not, you have become the sole ray of light in a very dark night. Goddess be with you.

----------

Javik: This is what happens when you allow machines to think for you... you become slaves.

----------

Joker (about going to Eden Prime with Nihlus in ME1): I told you that mission was going to be bigger than we thought.
Shepard: I think we can mark that prediction down as accurate.
Joker: And now we're heading back to Earth.
Shepard: Is this mission going to be bigger than we thought too?
Joker: I hope not. A routine delivery run would be fine with me.

----------

Shepard (to Jack, FOB): I'll see you on the other side.

Kasumi (to Shepard, FOB): If you live through it, drinks are on me.

Jacob (to Shepard, FOB): There's this great little bar in Rio we have to check out.
Shepard: I'll hold you to it.

Shepard (to Miranda, FOB): This isn't goodbye. You have to believe we're not done yet.

Vega (to Shepard, FOB): So I guess this is it, no? One more push... one last fight.
Shepard: Not necessarily our last.

Wrex (FOB): Today we win our future!

Javik (to Shepard, FOB): The future is still out there. It is something my people could never say: There will be a tomorrow.
Shepard: Only if we win today.

I don't think the stuff at the FOB, or at least most of it, is IT-related. Those are things said in like every war novel, movie, show, or game before the final fight.

Edit: top


To me, that's a lot of things telling me that the war isn't over. That this isn't our last fight.

There's much more than this in the game, this is just the FOB stuff. Just played Priority Earth, hence these quotes. (Plus a few others I had written down earlier, but hadn't posted yet.)

To truly understand what I'm getting at, click the banner in my sig. :P