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[CmdrShep80]

@lady 1 well I didn't see the trees on my first playthrough and even had trouble finding them when I reloaded the autosave. It reminds me of the ME 1 game with the two docs before the Prothean beacon that you had to go off the beaten path to find

[masster blaster]

Good news everyone. I just finished my calculation's, and we have 463 members.

[LadySuspense]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@lady 1 well I didn't see the trees on my first playthrough and even had trouble finding them when I reloaded the autosave. It reminds me of the ME 1 game with the two docs before the Prothean beacon that you had to go off the beaten path to find

Wait what? I am playing ME1 now how do you find these docs? Curious.

[CmdrShep80]

Dwailing wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...
@CmdrShep80
Another thing I noticed about the beam run is that the water appears to be going uphill. While water can do this if the conditions are right, those conditions do not exist in the proximity of that conduit.

oh I didn't notice that. That's why I like having you here. You catch stuff I miss

One thing I'm trying to figure out about the Beam Run, that ties into that business with the water.  What's with the wind?  I mean, that wind is FIERCE, and much worse than the wind that was present, oh, about 10 - 15 minutes ago tops.  I mean, it's not like Harbinger has thrusters or anything like that, and I'm pretty certain that his Mass Effect field wouldn't have an effect like THAT on the surrounding area.

Edit: Top!  Darn, Banshee's not here.  Estebanusister is though!

i didn't mention this earlier but if you watch the various places Shepard stands it starts off as a light breeze and by the time I reach the bottom the wind is pretty fierce

[Dwailing]

LadySuspense wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

i believed in IT until the EC came out, it just felt like Bioware going out of their way to show that the ending was literal, still a small part of me hope y'all are right and might actually buy the next dlc if it confirms IT and fixes the ending. sorry for not joining in on ongoing conversation just wanted to throw my two cents into this massive thread-o-doom.

I am not trying to be prude, but how did the EC disprove IT for you? I am genuinely curious.

I would like to hear as well.  I mean, for me, the EC actually strengthened IT.  Showing Shepard with the Predator during the Beam Run and then showing him with the Predator again in Destroy, that sound on the Citadel when he "wakes up" that's similar if not identical to the sound in Leviathan when he's being yanked between reality and Enthrallment Land, the addition of that line, "SO BE IT," that makes it clear Brat's definitely a Reaper, and Harbinger not shooting down Shepard and the Normandy when they're RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.  Those are the big things, but I think there are others as well.

[LadySuspense]

masster blaster wrote...

Good news everyone. I just finished my calculation's, and we have 463 members.

Hopefully many more!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

@estebanusister
maybe it occured later in the war when the United States had infiltrated Japanese-conquered territory, like China, Vietnam, or one the many islands.

[Dwailing]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...
@CmdrShep80
Another thing I noticed about the beam run is that the water appears to be going uphill. While water can do this if the conditions are right, those conditions do not exist in the proximity of that conduit.

oh I didn't notice that. That's why I like having you here. You catch stuff I miss

One thing I'm trying to figure out about the Beam Run, that ties into that business with the water.  What's with the wind?  I mean, that wind is FIERCE, and much worse than the wind that was present, oh, about 10 - 15 minutes ago tops.  I mean, it's not like Harbinger has thrusters or anything like that, and I'm pretty certain that his Mass Effect field wouldn't have an effect like THAT on the surrounding area.

Edit: Top!  Darn, Banshee's not here.  Estebanusister is though!

i didn't mention this earlier but if you watch the various places Shepard stands it starts off as a light breeze and by the time I reach the bottom the wind is pretty fierce

Like I said, I guess it COULD be an effect caused by Harby's ME field, but I don't think that's how a ME field works.  It alters mass to affect gravity to allow flight.  It doesn't push against anything.

[Eryri]

Dwailing wrote...

LadySuspense wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

i believed in IT until the EC came out, it just felt like Bioware going out of their way to show that the ending was literal, still a small part of me hope y'all are right and might actually buy the next dlc if it confirms IT and fixes the ending. sorry for not joining in on ongoing conversation just wanted to throw my two cents into this massive thread-o-doom.

I am not trying to be prude, but how did the EC disprove IT for you? I am genuinely curious.

I would like to hear as well.  I mean, for me, the EC actually strengthened IT.  Showing Shepard with the Predator during the Beam Run and then showing him with the Predator again in Destroy, that sound on the Citadel when he "wakes up" that's similar if not identical to the sound in Leviathan when he's being yanked between reality and Enthrallment Land, the addition of that line, "SO BE IT," that makes it clear Brat's definitely a Reaper, and Harbinger not shooting down Shepard and the Normandy when they're RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.  Those are the big things, but I think there are others as well.

Like Harbinger's garbled "Serve us" noise. While this noise is made by other reapers earlier in the game, it was specifically added for Harbinger in the EC.

Shepard also stumbles to the ground in the EC, making it even more unlikely that Harbinger missed him by accident.

Modifié par Eryri, 29 décembre 2012 - 08:56 .

[CmdrShep80]

 This might help to explain the water going uphill. The thing is if this is true, then that means the area surrounding the beam is hot resulting in this effect to happen:

Leidenfrost Effect

[estebanus]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

@estebanusister
maybe it occured later in the war when the United States had infiltrated Japanese-conquered territory, like China, Vietnam, or one the many islands.

He said his plane was shot down by the japs. It follows that they're in hostile territory. Not only that, but the japs would have sent out a party immediately to investigate the wreckage, and with a split-up back and 2 knocked out comrades, he wouldn't make it far. 

Oh, and he also said that he bombed locations in Japan.

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings.

Game of Thrones for the books, Lord of the Rings for the film, and Mass Effect for the win!

Then check out the polls.

social.bioware.com/browse_polls.php

bump.

[LadySuspense]

So, is all quiet on the speculative front?

[Eryri]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

 This might help to explain the water going uphill. The thing is if this is true, then that means the area surrounding the beam is hot resulting in this effect to happen:

Leidenfrost Effect

Or it could be the so-called "Gravity Hill" effect, an optical illusion caused by surrounding topographical features that makes a road appear to go uphill when in fact it goes down. There's one in Ireland apparently, which is probably why they took the mickey out of the legend in an episode of Father Ted.

Modifié par Eryri, 29 décembre 2012 - 09:04 .

[Tomwew]

Dwailing wrote...

LadySuspense wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

i believed in IT until the EC came out, it just felt like Bioware going out of their way to show that the ending was literal, still a small part of me hope y'all are right and might actually buy the next dlc if it confirms IT and fixes the ending. sorry for not joining in on ongoing conversation just wanted to throw my two cents into this massive thread-o-doom.

I am not trying to be prude, but how did the EC disprove IT for you? I am genuinely curious.

I would like to hear as well.  I mean, for me, the EC actually strengthened IT.  Showing Shepard with the Predator during the Beam Run and then showing him with the Predator again in Destroy, that sound on the Citadel when he "wakes up" that's similar if not identical to the sound in Leviathan when he's being yanked between reality and Enthrallment Land, the addition of that line, "SO BE IT," that makes it clear Brat's definitely a Reaper, and Harbinger not shooting down Shepard and the Normandy when they're RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.  Those are the big things, but I think there are others as well.

well i really haven't put as much thought or research into it as y'all have, but for me the epilogue and slides seem to indicate that what happened on the citadel really happened, and as much as i dislike it and am only too happy to call bad writing and poor editing/design on things like transforming guns, magic datapads and polite harbinger i just don't 'feel' IT like i did pre-EC. but i'd be DELIGHTED to be proven wrong and admire you IT'ers dedication.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

@estebanusister
True, but he never said it was an American outpost. It could be a similar situation to Doolittle's Raid at the beginning of the war, where their planes had to ditch in Japan-held China, then were rescued by Chinese soldiers before the Japanese found them.

[estebanus]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

@estebanusister
True, but he never said it was an American outpost. It could be a similar situation to Doolittle's Raid at the beginning of the war, where their planes had to ditch in Japan-held China, then were rescued by Chinese soldiers before the Japanese found them.

Yes, but he said that he had bombed Japan. Not a lot of chinese soldiers there.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

@estebanusister
Doolittle and his men bombed Tokyo. Just because you attack one place and get damaged there doesnt mean the plane will crash there too. Some bomber pilots were able to nurse their planes hundreds of miles before either crashing or getting back to base.

[masster blaster]

So Lord the Rings has 13 votes

Game of Thrones 1

Modifié par masster blaster, 29 décembre 2012 - 09:12 .

[estebanus]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

@estebanusister
Doolittle and his men bombed Tokyo. Just because you attack one place and get damaged there doesnt mean the plane will crash there too. Some bomber pilots were able to nurse their planes hundreds of miles before either crashing or getting back to base.

Sure. Some. Like total badass pilots. Was MB's great-grandfather a badass pilot who essentially knew everything about his plane?

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

So Lord the Rings has 13 votes

Game of Thrones 1

Naturally. 

MB, where was your great-grandfather shot down?

[jojon2se]

Dwailing wrote...
One thing I'm trying to figure out about the Beam Run, that ties into that business with the water.  What's with the wind?  I mean, that wind is FIERCE, and much worse than the wind that was present, oh, about 10 - 15 minutes ago tops.  I mean, it's not like Harbinger has thrusters or anything like that, and I'm pretty certain that his Mass Effect field wouldn't have an effect like THAT on the surrounding area.

Edit: Top!  Darn, Banshee's not here.  Estebanusister is though!

Well, there is that glowy thing we're running towards...

If whatever makes the pretty blue light has any physical effect, I suppose air would be dragged up, along with it, as per the Coanda Effect and cause a toroidal vortex - down the hill, though.
...but what do I know; Maybe the physical effect is in the opposite direction to the light, or maybe it's a skin effect and we see the upwards-moving core flux/counter, with the downwards-moving skin around it invisible, which in turn could be due to volume dilution...  (EDIT: ...or not carrying whatever may be fed through the core, from the bottom...)

</Flitting_nonsense_off_the_top_of_one's_head>

(EDIT: Let's try to get in a dumb picture, here...)

Modifié par jojon2se, 29 décembre 2012 - 10:50 .

[Codename_Code]

Tomwew wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

LadySuspense wrote...

Tomwew wrote...

i believed in IT until the EC came out, it just felt like Bioware going out of their way to show that the ending was literal, still a small part of me hope y'all are right and might actually buy the next dlc if it confirms IT and fixes the ending. sorry for not joining in on ongoing conversation just wanted to throw my two cents into this massive thread-o-doom.

I am not trying to be prude, but how did the EC disprove IT for you? I am genuinely curious.

I would like to hear as well.  I mean, for me, the EC actually strengthened IT.  Showing Shepard with the Predator during the Beam Run and then showing him with the Predator again in Destroy, that sound on the Citadel when he "wakes up" that's similar if not identical to the sound in Leviathan when he's being yanked between reality and Enthrallment Land, the addition of that line, "SO BE IT," that makes it clear Brat's definitely a Reaper, and Harbinger not shooting down Shepard and the Normandy when they're RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.  Those are the big things, but I think there are others as well.

well i really haven't put as much thought or research into it as y'all have, but for me the epilogue and slides seem to indicate that what happened on the citadel really happened, and as much as i dislike it and am only too happy to call bad writing and poor editing/design on things like transforming guns, magic datapads and polite harbinger i just don't 'feel' IT like i did pre-EC. but i'd be DELIGHTED to be proven wrong and admire you IT'ers dedication.

The EC was kinda disappointing if you expected the IT reveal right there, but if you look closely is the same ending, with stupid obvious retcons for people that don't believe the theory and wanted their literal ending to make a liiiiittle more sense.

The new scenes gave even more credibility for the theory :
- Evacuation scene nonsensical ( probably pointing that the run to the beam is also a dream)
- Harbinger "serve Us"
- Coates dead up in the citadel
- SO BE IT
- In control is pretty clear that Shepard is now a reaper.
- In synthesis is pretty clear all galaxy is now connected to the reapers.
- In the breath scene from destroy you get a hopeful music theme just when shepard wakes up.

Plus, Leviathan DLC pretty much confirmed the scene with the the reaper kid is happening is Shepard´s mind. IT is strong.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Maybe. Do you know if he wasn't? He survived either by skill or miracle, so until I have further evidence to the contrary, I'll believe what masster says since he's never been dishonest before. Regardess, we should probably drop this since it has nothing to do with ME3, let alone IT.

[LadySuspense]

So how about those speculations?