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[401 Kill]

Fur28 wrote...

But i just watched The Hobbit and with that ended my two movies per year rule:crying:

Dont worry! 2013 is in like, 2 days!

[Fur28]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
But i just watched The Hobbit and with that ended my two movies per year rule:crying:

Exceptions will be made for the Hobbit of course. Wait, only 2 movies a year?

I meant in Theathers, i hate going there, you enjoy a good movie the way it´s supposed to be watched but the downside are those douc#ebaggins who wont shut up

[401 Kill]

Fur28 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Hmm, I see the race to 3000 has begun!

Do you have a post ready to reference the number 3000?

I know for a fact that I won't get the top of 3000.

[Fur28]

401 Kill wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

But i just watched The Hobbit and with that ended my two movies per year rule:crying:

Dont worry! 2013 is in like, 2 days!

yeah but remember only 2, and Iron Man 3 already got a spot, and i´m saving the other

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Hmm, I see the race to 3000 has begun!

Do you have a post ready to reference the number 3000?

I know for a fact that I won't get the top of 3000.

I probably won't either.

[Arashi08]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...
Thanks! and I agree with you.  based om my own interactions with the story and my own morality I would pick destroy every time.  putting the endings into perspective like this is even helped me understand my own novel a bit, helping me get past a few hurdles I'd been struggling with.

You are writing a novel? Or do you just mean your personal story?

Ya i  meant the actual series of books that I've been trying to write  for probably 10 years now lol.  I suppose for this story in particular I've been working on it for four years, but it seems like a long time when all you've written so far is the prologue. lol

[Rifneno]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

[paxxton]

Rifneno wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

A variant of Kai Leng's Cereal Syndrome...

[Fur28]

401 Kill wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Hmm, I see the race to 3000 has begun!

Do you have a post ready to reference the number 3000?

I know for a fact that I won't get the top of 3000.

No:o, you cant loose hope, "without hope we might as well be machines" 

[BansheeOwnage]

Arashi08 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...
Thanks! and I agree with you.  based om my own interactions with the story and my own morality I would pick destroy every time.  putting the endings into perspective like this is even helped me understand my own novel a bit, helping me get past a few hurdles I'd been struggling with.

You are writing a novel? Or do you just mean your personal story?

Ya i  meant the actual series of books that I've been trying to write  for probably 10 years now lol.  I suppose for this story in particular I've been working on it for four years, but it seems like a long time when all you've written so far is the prologue. lol

Cool. I'm pretty good at putting things off too so don't take my example. I've been trying to make this IT video since August.  So I should probably continue that playthrough so I can. I look forward to reading you book, even if I have to wait.

[DoomsdayDevice]

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Saw this yesterday DD. Pure awesome. Saved the picture.

Javik is the awesomest when it comes to IT foreshadowing and hints. That is actually one of his quotes.

Javik is awesome, because he's this racist, fascist, elitist bastard, but at the same time, for all his ugly traits, he has this incredible experience that no one else in this cycle has lived through.

Javik is who he is for a good reason. He knows the true horrors of the Reapers in their most gruesome forms. He is the only one who truly understands what needs to be done. There is only ONE way to beat the Reapers, by fighting, being ruthless, and hardening ourselves to loss and preparing ourselves for sacrifices. Javik is a wake up call.

His message is not a sympathetic one, and therefore easily disregarded, but it just so happens that the most disliked squad mate has the most important things to teach you.

That isn't to say you must completely adopt his attitude, no. But as far as dealing with the Reapers goes, there can be no compromise, no single moment of weakness. Just pure resolve.

Javik also is the only character who echoes Shepard's  "We fight, or we die!" if you take him on the last push towards the beam (he says it in the transport, I think).

Javik: I sense you have the lineage of a leader. A warrior's skill and cunning--they are strong in your genes. But you've grown tired of war, you're exhausted by defeat, and now you worry you don't have the courage left to go on. Find your resolve. This war can end if you do.

Liara: What if we're too late? My people are dying down there.
Javik: Your empathy is a weakness. You must numb yourself to loss.
Shepard: Benezia took you to this temple?
Liara: I was just a child. I thought it was a history lesson. But now? Maybe there was more to it.
Shepard: What do you mean?
Liara: I went digging through her old files. She had heavily encrypted records
on this place, some dating back centuries. I still can't crack most of
them. Whatever's going on, it's well hidden.
Javik: I've studied your old mission reports. Your mother was indoctrinated.
Liara: Yes. We had to kill her.
Javik: Yet it did not stop you from fighting. As I said, steel yourself. Many more lives will be lost.
Shepard (renegade): I know it's difficult, Liara, but he's right. You could spend all day counting casualties.
Javik: When you should be avenging them.
Liara: I'm sorry, I can't be that callous.
Javik: (long pause) War doesn't always provide you a choice.


Javik: This is what happens when you allow machines to think for you... you become slaves.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 30 décembre 2012 - 05:39 .

[spotlessvoid]

Fur28 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
But i just watched The Hobbit and with that ended my two movies per year rule:crying:

Exceptions will be made for the Hobbit of course. Wait, only 2 movies a year?

I meant in Theathers, i hate going there, you enjoy a good movie the way it´s supposed to be watched but the downside are those douc#ebaggins who wont shut up

That's why god invented kicking people in the face

[Fur28]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
But i just watched The Hobbit and with that ended my two movies per year rule:crying:

Exceptions will be made for the Hobbit of course. Wait, only 2 movies a year?

I meant in Theathers, i hate going there, you enjoy a good movie the way it´s supposed to be watched but the downside are those douc#ebaggins who wont shut up

That's why god invented kicking people in the face

ant thats why the devil gave doucheb@gs friends, because they obviously cant fight without back up

[spotlessvoid]

Fur28 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
But i just watched The Hobbit and with that ended my two movies per year rule:crying:

Exceptions will be made for the Hobbit of course. Wait, only 2 movies a year?

I meant in Theathers, i hate going there, you enjoy a good movie the way it´s supposed to be watched but the downside are those douc#ebaggins who wont shut up

That's why god invented kicking people in the face

ant thats why the devil gave doucheb@gs friends, because they obviously cant fight without back up

And that's why god gave you two feet

[Rifneno]

Son of a batarian, I've heard that "vengeance is the goal, suicide is not!" line before (at Tuchanka if memory serves correctly, when approaching the Reaper destroyer) but it never clicked with me that it was about the ending. How did I miss that...

[spotlessvoid]

Rifneno wrote...

Son of a batarian, I've heard that "vengeance is the goal, suicide is not!" line before (at Tuchanka if memory serves correctly, when approaching the Reaper destroyer) but it never clicked with me that it was about the ending. How did I miss that...

Moreshadowing!

I'll be here all night folks

[Rifneno]

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Vega is actually the most disliked squadmate. I don't know why, he doesn't bother me. Lotta hate out there though.

[DoomsdayDevice]

By the way, on my most recent playthrough, what really stood out to me this time is how vulnerable paragon Shep becomes the closer you get to the ending.

Renegade shep's dialogue is just focused. Shepard doesn't worry about the past, fallen comrades, casualties, she just thinks like a soldier, with a singular purpose.

Paragon Shep constantly worries who she'll lose, doesn't feel well, doesn't have a lot of confidence to win, seems way more doubtful about things.

I really feel like the game is set up to indoctrinate players who play mostly or purely paragon.

The difference is really noticeable. Paragon Shep is the most out of character, renegade Shep is her usual confident self.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 30 décembre 2012 - 05:45 .

[masster blaster]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Saw this yesterday DD. Pure awesome. Saved the picture.

Javik is the awesomest when it comes to IT foreshadowing and hints. That is actually one of his quotes.

Javik is awesome, because he's this racist, fascist, elitist bastard, but at the same time, for all his ugly traits, he has this incredible experience that no one else in this cycle has lived through.

Javik is who he is for a good reason. He knows the true horrors of the Reapers in their most gruesome forms. He is the only one who truly understands what needs to be done. There is only ONE way to beat the Reapers, by fighting, being ruthless, and hardening ourselves to loss and preparing ourselves for sacrifices. Javik is a wake up call.

His message is not a sympathetic one, and therefore easily disregarded, but it just so happens that the most disliked squad mate has the most important things to teach you.

That isn't to say you must completely adopt his attitude, no. But as far as dealing with the Reapers goes, there can be no compromise, no single moment of weakness. Just pure resolve.

Javik also is the only character who echoes Shepard's  "We fight, or we die!" if you take him on the last push towards the beam (he says it in the transport, I think).

Javik: I sense you have the lineage of a leader. A warrior's skill and cunning--they are strong in your genes. But you've grown tired of war, you're exhausted by defeat, and now you worry you don't have the courage left to go on. Find your resolve. This war can end if you do.

Liara: What if we're too late? My people are dying down there.
Javik: Your empathy is a weakness. You must numb yourself to loss.
Shepard: Benezia took you to this temple?
Liara: I was just a child. I thought it was a history lesson. But now? Maybe there was more to it.
Shepard: What do you mean?
Liara: I went digging through her old files. She had heavily encrypted records
on this place, some dating back centuries. I still can't crack most of
them. Whatever's going on, it's well hidden.
Javik: I've studied your old mission reports. Your mother was indoctrinated.
Liara: Yes. We had to kill her.
Javik: Yet it did not stop you from fighting. As I said, steel yourself. Many more lives will be lost.
Shepard (renegade): I know it's difficult, Liara, but he's right. You could spend all day counting casualties.
Javik: When you should be avenging them.
Liara: I'm sorry, I can't be that callous.
Javik: (long pause) War doesn't always provide you a choice.


Javik: This is what happens when you allow machines to think for you... you become slaves.

+1+2*8+9*6

[Fur28]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
But i just watched The Hobbit and with that ended my two movies per year rule:crying:

Exceptions will be made for the Hobbit of course. Wait, only 2 movies a year?

I meant in Theathers, i hate going there, you enjoy a good movie the way it´s supposed to be watched but the downside are those douc#ebaggins who wont shut up

That's why god invented kicking people in the face

ant thats why the devil gave doucheb@gs friends, because they obviously cant fight without back up

And that's why god gave you two feet

i aint no Van Dammne, my body applies to the laws of physics, i cant kick two people at the same time and land perfectly on two feet

[Rifneno]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

By the way, on my most recent playthrough, what really stood out to me this time is how vulnerable Paragon Shep becomes the closer you get to the ending.

Renegade shep's dialogue is just focused. Shepard doesn't worry about the past, fallen comrades, casualties, she just thinks like a soldier, with a singular purpose.

Paragon Shep constantly worries who she'll lose, doesn't feel well, doesn't have a lot of confidence to win, seems way more doubtful about things.

I really feel like the game is set up to indoctrinate players who play mostly or purely paragon.

The difference is really noticeable. Paragon Shep is the most out of character, renegade Shep is her usual confident self.

You're completely right, and I can tell you the exact moment that started.  Arrival.  When we got to talking with Harbinger at the end, the paragon response is all sissy nonsense.  "Sure, maybe you're right and we have no chance... but we're gonna try anyway, I guess..."  Renegade response is honey badger levels of aggressive and tells him that Shepard'll blow up half the galaxy if he needs to in order to beat the Reapers.  None of those "woe is me, maybe we really can't win" garbage.  It's straight teeth-to-balls.

[masster blaster]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

By the way, on my most recent playthrough, what really stood out to me this time is how vulnerable paragon Shep becomes the closer you get to the ending.

Renegade shep's dialogue is just focused. Shepard doesn't worry about the past, fallen comrades, casualties, she just thinks like a soldier, with a singular purpose.

Paragon Shep constantly worries who she'll lose, doesn't feel well, doesn't have a lot of confidence to win, seems way more doubtful about things.

I really feel like the game is set up to indoctrinate players who play mostly or purely paragon.

The difference is really noticeable. Paragon Shep is the most out of character, renegade Shep is her usual confident self.

Um killing all your friends is way out of character. i know Wrex can die in ME1 by you hands, but in ME3 you lie to him in his face.

Shepard:  Why would I beatray you Wrex?

Then you kill Wrex.

[masster blaster]

Rifneno wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

By the way, on my most recent playthrough, what really stood out to me this time is how vulnerable Paragon Shep becomes the closer you get to the ending.

Renegade shep's dialogue is just focused. Shepard doesn't worry about the past, fallen comrades, casualties, she just thinks like a soldier, with a singular purpose.

Paragon Shep constantly worries who she'll lose, doesn't feel well, doesn't have a lot of confidence to win, seems way more doubtful about things.

I really feel like the game is set up to indoctrinate players who play mostly or purely paragon.

The difference is really noticeable. Paragon Shep is the most out of character, renegade Shep is her usual confident self.

You're completely right, and I can tell you the exact moment that started.  Arrival.  When we got to talking with Harbinger at the end, the paragon response is all sissy nonsense.  "Sure, maybe you're right and we have no chance... but we're gonna try anyway, I guess..."  Renegade response is honey badger levels of aggressive and tells him that Shepard'll blow up half the galaxy if he needs to in order to beat the Reapers.  None of those "woe is me, maybe we really can't win" garbage.  It's straight teeth-to-balls.

" Maybe your right maybe we can't win. But we will fight your regradless. We will fight. We will sacrifice, and we will find a way."

[DoomsdayDevice]

masster blaster wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

By the way, on my most recent playthrough, what really stood out to me this time is how vulnerable paragon Shep becomes the closer you get to the ending.

Renegade shep's dialogue is just focused. Shepard doesn't worry about the past, fallen comrades, casualties, she just thinks like a soldier, with a singular purpose.

Paragon Shep constantly worries who she'll lose, doesn't feel well, doesn't have a lot of confidence to win, seems way more doubtful about things.

I really feel like the game is set up to indoctrinate players who play mostly or purely paragon.

The difference is really noticeable. Paragon Shep is the most out of character, renegade Shep is her usual confident self.

Um killing all your friends is way out of character. i know Wrex can die in ME1 by you hands, but in ME3 you lie to him in his face.

Shepard:  Why would I beatray you Wrex?

Then you kill Wrex.

Dude, I'm not talking about big decisions or killing squadmates. I'm talking about the regular responses in the dialogue.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 30 décembre 2012 - 05:51 .

[BansheeOwnage]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Javik is who he is for a good reason. He knows the true horrors of the Reapers in their most gruesome forms. He is the only one who truly understands what needs to be done. There is only ONE way to beat the Reapers, by fighting, being ruthless, and hardening ourselves to loss and preparing ourselves for sacrifices. Javik is a wake up call.

I see what you did there.  The main reason I like Javik, it even though he is a lot of bad things, he admits that it is because of his circumstances and his life.