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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Yes, but rifneno calls him a cretin.


Sorry, I didn't mean it personally.  I'm just fed up with the "EC disproved IT!" foolishness from... well, pretty much everyone that isn't a current IT'er.

I'm pretty sure that he said that it's still a valid interpretation, just not one he believes in anymore. 

Doesn't matter. I'm not going to argue with people who insult my family.


'kay.  Frankly, after the trolling he did with Megumi, I'm really not concerned with a misspoken insult anyway.  I said I was sorry because you seemed bothered by it, not because I don't think ill of him anyway.

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@lex0r

Was more of a joke but thanks anyway. Proud to be a part of it and want everyone to see it ;)

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@andromidius

Spec ops the line: mediocre third person shooter when it comes to gameplay. But the thought that has been put into it story wise..blew. My. Mind...i don't want to spoil anything..so if any of you have not played it yet and have an opportunity to borrow- or purchase it at a low price..you should most definitely do it.   edit:grammar (pretty sure there's still something wrong)

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Hmm. It just occurred to me, it might be a good thing that they haven't leaked us any info on the next DLC. They gave us some bits of Leviathan and Omega in the dialogue files for dataminers to find, but nothing so far for whatever they're doing next. Which, if they really are working on post-breath scene content, would make sense. Hmm. Then again, it could just be that supposedly cut thing with Admiral Xen, Space Morrigan. I don't know if that's DLC-worthy content though since it requires peace on Rannoch to be possible.

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I doubt there's no one to support Contextual Spacebar.

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Skillz1986 wrote...

@andromidius

Spec ops the line: mediocre third person shooter when it comes to gameplay. But the thought that has been put into it story wise..blew. My. Mind...i don't want to spoil anything..so if any of you have not played it yet and have an opportunity to borrow- or purchase it at a low price..you should most definitely do it.   edit:grammar (pretty sure there's still something wrong)

It was on Steam Sale a few days ago. Great game. Interesting gameplay - a team of 3 (like in Mass Effect) is tasked with a rescue mission that quickly goes south. Play the demo if you want to get a taste before cashing out for it. 

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Spec Ops: The Line supports Contextual Spacebar. So can you.

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For the record, in reference to my posts from before a few pages, I think that byne is one of the greatest contributors to IT. But the current state of the theory is it being a collaborative work.

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5. Couldn't resist. Posted Image

Sorry, byne.

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Speaking of Byne, he's gonna punch you in the sack for posting 5 messages in a row.

"ME3 Ending only lacks one thing - Origins of Crucible" <sigh> I just want to scream "the ****ing Reapers!" but we all know how that would go. Damn I can't wait for a reveal just to get onto more open speculations like that.

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I didn't plan on it. But no one else posted anything and I suddenly ended up having posted 4 consecutive posts.

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ok IT supporters. what if shep is indoctrinated after arrival?

what if...... shepards dreams are the real shepards mind? when he wakes he is indoctrinated. this happens right through mass effect 3. the reasoning behind this is as follows. shepards real mind is trapped. he is trying to make sense of events and conversations in his dream. he sees the kid (his downfall) and tries to recover his own mind (the kid running away). however close he gets the kid burns. this is symbolic of his mind being unable to break free of indoctrination. then in the final dream it appears shepard comforts the boy. this symbolises the indoctrinated shepard protecting himself against the real shepards mind. they both burn. shepards control of himself remains out of reach. he is still indoctrinated. the only reason star brat takes shep on the space elevator to hell is the fact he's indoctrinated and the reapers need an indoctrinated organic creature to turn on the crudible/citadel weapon?

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More evidence the Crucible isn't legit. Javik said that the Protheans cut off research on primitive species (read: us) when the Reapers invaded. If the Protheans already had the Crucible plans before the Reapers invaded, they would've had it built and used it to beat them. Logic dictates that they only found the Crucible plans conveniently after invasion, much like we did.

So how, pray tell, did those plans get to a base that the Protheans had already abandoned?

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Seriously? You promote a unrelated group 3 times on the same page?

You are starting to do it again, paxx..

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lex0r11 wrote...

Seriously? You promote a unrelated group 3 times on the same page?

You are starting to do it again, paxx..

Nah, I'm not doing that. Just hoping for others to join it.

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Rifneno wrote...

More evidence the Crucible isn't legit. Javik said that the Protheans cut off research on primitive species (read: us) when the Reapers invaded. If the Protheans already had the Crucible plans before the Reapers invaded, they would've had it built and used it to beat them. Logic dictates that they only found the Crucible plans conveniently after invasion, much like we did.

So how, pray tell, did those plans get to a base that the Protheans had already abandoned?

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Rifneno wrote...

More evidence the Crucible isn't legit. Javik said that the Protheans cut off research on primitive species (read: us) when the Reapers invaded. If the Protheans already had the Crucible plans before the Reapers invaded, they would've had it built and used it to beat them. Logic dictates that they only found the Crucible plans conveniently after invasion, much like we did.

So how, pray tell, did those plans get to a base that the Protheans had already abandoned?


Well their beacon network was still active if you want to really get technical, but yes I brought up this same point some months ago.

Too summarize that part of my post:

We can assume the Prothean Crucible was built close to Thessia as the VI build over the overseer of the project is on Thessia. Knowing that the Relays are cut of it is pretty certain that the overseer dident change system once the invasion was ongoing.

Javik most likely heard of the the Crucible through the Prothean Beacon Network as one was most likely active at the Crucible project and near Javik. We even know a Beacon was active on Eden Prime where Javik is also found so that is not a stretch.

However a Prothean Beacon on Mars would have been big news. Off course it might have been integrated into the Archive and thus undiscovered, but still seems unlikely someone would miss it. More importantly we know the Reapers could track transmissions through the Beacon network as as the Protheans on Ilos were afraid to send out a signal when they woke.

I  short had the Protheans sent the plans to the Mars archive the Reapers would most likely have found the archive.

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Raistin you also have to considedr that Mars was attacked by the Reapers. In ME1 that Prothean beacon, or Leviathan orb showed Shepard that his/her races was experimented on by the Protheans, and then the Reapers came and killed the human, and mars was no more.

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masster blaster wrote...

Raistin you also have to considedr that Mars was attacked by the Reapers. In ME1 that Prothean beacon, or Leviathan orb showed Shepard that his/her races was experimented on by the Protheans, and then the Reapers came and killed the human, and mars was no more.


Which is just another good reason the Reapers really should have found that Archive if it was not left behind intentionally.

Also why would the plans even be there? The facility was an observation and ressearch post on human evolution, not secret weapons ressearch. Off course it might be a last ditch effort to preserve the plans, but another strange thing is that the Prothean Ruins were almost certainly not buried and hidden when in use as the discovery of the ruins mention the discovery of space ships on the station. Those ships would need a way out of the facility which would be impossible if it was buried while in use.

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The Crucible: Whats the worst that could happen?

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Norlond wrote...
 
(snip)


 I would be inclined to believe that if the Reapers had prior been established as having several elaborate ruses and contingency plans in case something went wrong in a cycle...wait:pinched:

Also I lost the game.

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It sounds odd to say this, but I really, really hope that the Crucible does turn out to be a trap. Mainly so I can continue to take the franchise seriously. It will be embarrassingly lame, and immersion breaking if it turns out to do exactly what it says on the tin - like Synthesis levels of embarrassing.

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Wait guys we are forgeting something. What gave the Protheans to believe that the Citadel is the Catalyst? I mean ask your self there is no way that the Protheans could have know about the Citadle is the Catalyst. It makes no sense. The only thing they should know it's a trap. Other than that only Illos Protheans should have knowne that the Citadle is a mass relay, and it can shut down all relays.

But for real how could an Organic, or Synthetic races can come up with a conclusion that the Citadle is the Catalyst? Again how. There would be no way in hell that that any cycle races could get the crucible to the Citadle at all.

Also if the Reapers discovered about the crucible, then shouldn't they have knowne what it does, and if they knew that the Citadle is the Catalyst. Then why didn't they tKe the Citadle when they first came into the Milky Galaxy?

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