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[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

AuditoreanGhost wrote...

Well, guys here's a bone to chew on.

Let's say that Bioware pulls the unexpected: Makes a reunion scene, extends the War Assets, Free Roam after Endings, confirms IT, adds an Harbinger Boss fight (Maybe use the Thanix Cannon for god's sake) etc. etc.

What would happen next?

Shepard presides over Anderson's burial (because he will die no matter what, I'm absolutely sure of it) together with her friends and loved ones. Both Hacket, Kahlee and Shepard say some words before Anderson is buried. Afterwards, Shepard can be seen talking together with Hackett and Primarch Victus. They're discussing if some form of memorial should be built for the fallen, on which they all agree. A little later, Shepard rejoins her former squad and tells them what she's been discussing with Hackett, and the player can then either make a choice between remaining in the alliance or to desert together with her LI. If Shepard chooses to remain with the alliance, she tells her squad that she will help the races recover from the war. If Shepard chooses to desert, she secretly gathers her friends at a quiet spot to tell them her intentions. Her friends decide to remain with her, and no matter what you chose, a final cutscene shows the Normandy slowly flying into space. 

Finally, an epilogue comes where you see what impact your choices had on the galaxy, abd how it will form after the war. You see what will become of your companions, and what new conflicts will arise from this one. 

After all that is said and done, the timeline skips a few years into the future. Shepard is on the Citadel together with her LI, looking at the newly built memorial. It is made out of solid gold, and it depicts a human soldier, an asari, a turian, a krogan (depending on your choice), a salarian, a quarian (depending on your choice again) and a geth (again depending on your choice) standing on the corpse of a reaper, their guns rised in the air. Shepard (who is either wearing her standard N7 armour if you chose to remain in the alliance, or simple civilian clothing if you chose to desert) and her LI take a moment to remember their fallen friends and allies. Shepard then asks the Li if s/he will marry her. The LI says yes, they both kiss, and the screen slowly fades to black.

Aww.  Tears of joy. I would absolutely love to see that statue, too. Who's a good artist?!

[byne]

BleedingUranium wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

Here's another random one: Maybe Dr. Eva wasn't there to steal the plans from under our noses, but to plant them.

Holy! Why did we never think of this before?  That's definitely something I'd expect from the control-supporting splinter group.

It would also explain why we never found them until now.

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

I personally dont think Miranda's infertility should be cured. You cant get everything you want. It would have been like curing Thane's Kepral's syndrome miraculously.

Actually, in the original script Kepral's Syndrome was going to be cured.

[byne]

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

I personally dont think Miranda's infertility should be cured. You cant get everything you want. It would have been like curing Thane's Kepral's syndrome miraculously.

Actually, in the original script Kepral's Syndrome was going to be cured.

That doesnt stop it from being a silly thing to do. Thane's romance is great because of the fact that he's going to die, it adds a lot to it and to his character. Remove that and you do his character and romance a disservice.

[401 Kill]

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

Here's another random one: Maybe Dr. Eva wasn't there to steal the plans from under our noses, but to plant them.

Holy! Why did we never think of this before?  That's definitely something I'd expect from the control-supporting splinter group.

It would also explain why we never found them until now.

Didnt Liara talk about the device before Dr. Eva hacked the terminal? Wasn't Liara there before Eva researching the device (later known as the Crucible).

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

I personally dont think Miranda's infertility should be cured. You cant get everything you want. It would have been like curing Thane's Kepral's syndrome miraculously.

Actually, in the original script Kepral's Syndrome was going to be cured.

In the original script for ME2, Miranda was supposed to be bisexual.Yet nothing ever came out of it, so it doesn't really matter.

[Eryri]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

AuditoreanGhost wrote...

The best possible ending for me would be similar to this.

Starchild: Choose.
Shepard: Yippi ki yay, ************! *Blows the tube sky high...

Indoctrination attempt broken, Alliance squad helps him up from the ruble, goes up to the real Citadel core aka Citadel Tower from ME1, uses the Crucibles original function, a sophisticated Destroy; targets only Reapers, the Crucible needs time to charge up, Harbinger boss fight, M-920 Cain makes a return, Joker uses the Thanix Cannon to shred Harbinger to pieces, Shepard paints Harbinger with the Rannoch Beam, "One Last Volley (Every ship fires on it, let's say a 30 second cutscene), Harbinger utters: Assuming Direct..., Shepard: yeah, yeah. Harby, I know. How about NO! He says, before firing his Cain on Harby..., The Crucible activates, The reapers fall...

Reunion with Miranda / Squad
Epic Speech by Hackett
Character goodbyes aka 4 minutes dialogue each except for LI
Settling down on Planet X with Miranda/LI
Curing her infertility
Final Scene: Shepard sitting down on the couch, Miranda emerges from the bathroom holding a pregnancy text. "I'm pregnant, Mark!"

People always say that Bioware can't please everyone, but really, the above would not be that hard to do! Hell, I think much of the BSN would rather them make that instead of the rest of the DLC if we had to choose. I would!

Seconded. Throw in the Collectors to fight, and the Suicide Mission theme music for the climax, and Bioware would have a hit on their hands.

I'd be very happy with the above, but if I had to nitpick, I'd prefer the crucible to be revealed as some sort of trap, or power source for citadel relay to allow the Reapers to return to Darkspace, which we could then repurpose for our own advantage. Otherwise the Crucible just seems a little too convenient during the rest of the game. I think I'd like to see a "dark" version of the citadel that serves as the Reaper's home base. It could be some disturbing, Cronenbergian, techno-organic nightmare, chock full of scions and pretorians.

[estebanus]

401 Kill wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

Here's another random one: Maybe Dr. Eva wasn't there to steal the plans from under our noses, but to plant them.

Holy! Why did we never think of this before?  That's definitely something I'd expect from the control-supporting splinter group.

It would also explain why we never found them until now.

Didnt Liara talk about the device before Dr. Eva hacked the terminal? Wasn't Liara there before Eva researching the device (later known as the Crucible).

Yes. I vaguely recall the Cerberus News Network also stating that an entirely new chamber was found in the mars archives, when it still was active...

Modifié par estebanus, 30 décembre 2012 - 09:15 .

[BleedingUranium]

401 Kill wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

Here's another random one: Maybe Dr. Eva wasn't there to steal the plans from under our noses, but to plant them.

Holy! Why did we never think of this before?  That's definitely something I'd expect from the control-supporting splinter group.

It would also explain why we never found them until now.

Didnt Liara talk about the device before Dr. Eva hacked the terminal? Wasn't Liara there before Eva researching the device (later known as the Crucible).

She didn't plant it while you were there, she would've done it a while before the game started. She was at the facility a while, after all.

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

I personally dont think Miranda's infertility should be cured. You cant get everything you want. It would have been like curing Thane's Kepral's syndrome miraculously.

Actually, in the original script Kepral's Syndrome was going to be cured.

That doesnt stop it from being a silly thing to do. Thane's romance is great because of the fact that he's going to die, it adds a lot to it and to his character. Remove that and you do his character and romance a disservice.

He was going to die anyway, but Kasumi's Hanar side mission was originally going to involve Thane and Kolyat too, and IIRC Thane was going to die to save the Hanar homeworld.

[Eryri]

estebanus wrote...

Shepard presides over Anderson's burial (because he will die no matter what, I'm absolutely sure of it) together with her friends and loved ones. Both Hacket, Kahlee and Shepard say some words before Anderson is buried. Afterwards, Shepard can be seen talking together with Hackett and Primarch Victus. They're discussing if some form of memorial should be built for the fallen, on which they all agree. A little later, Shepard rejoins her former squad and tells them what she's been discussing with Hackett, and the player can then either make a choice between remaining in the alliance or to desert together with her LI. If Shepard chooses to remain with the alliance, she tells her squad that she will help the races recover from the war. If Shepard chooses to desert, she secretly gathers her friends at a quiet spot to tell them her intentions. Her friends decide to remain with her, and no matter what you chose, a final cutscene shows the Normandy slowly flying into space. 

Finally, an epilogue comes where you see what impact your choices had on the galaxy, abd how it will form after the war. You see what will become of your companions, and what new conflicts will arise from this one. 

After all that is said and done, the timeline skips a few years into the future. Shepard is on the Citadel together with her LI, looking at the newly built memorial. It is made out of solid gold, and it depicts a human soldier, an asari, a turian, a krogan (depending on your choice), a salarian, a quarian (depending on your choice again) and a geth (again depending on your choice) standing on the corpse of a reaper, their guns rised in the air. Shepard (who is either wearing her standard N7 armour if you chose to remain in the alliance, or simple civilian clothing if you chose to desert) and her LI take a moment to remember their fallen friends and allies. Shepard then asks the Li if s/he will marry her. The LI says yes, they both kiss, and the screen slowly fades to black.

Yes please to the marriage proposal with the LI. In fact I wouldn't be averse to seeing the actual marriage ceremony. Edi could catch the bouquet and give a meaningful look to a visibly nervous Joker. 

Although that might be pushing the schmaltz factor a little too far for some. People might find it a bit too "Return of the King". EDIT: Not me though, I'd love a thoroughly comprehensive ending that wrapped up happily for everyone. 

Also I'd like Anderson to pull through and get together with Kahlee.

Modifié par Eryri, 30 décembre 2012 - 09:34 .

[BleedingUranium]

Eryri wrote...

Yes please to the marriage proposal with the LI. In fact I wouldn't be averse to seeing the actual marriage ceremony. Edi could catch the bouquet and give a meaningful look to a visibly nervous Joker. 

Although that might be pushing the schmaltz factor a little too far for some. It might get a bit "Return of the King".

Even just a copy-paste of the end of RotK would be awesome in my opinion. That's how you end a series!

[zigamortis]

BleedingUranium wrote...

zigamortis wrote...

AuditoreanGhost wrote...

Well, guys here's a bone to chew on.

Let's say that Bioware pulls the unexpected: Makes a reunion scene, extends the War Assets, Free Roam after Endings, confirms IT, adds an Harbinger Boss fight (Maybe use the Thanix Cannon for god's sake) etc. etc.

What would happen next?

Set up for next game? perhaps show a potential future for shepard?  My idea involves a 20-40 year gap and commander shepard is the new mentor character to the new protagonist.

That's what I expect, it's far enough into the future that Shepard wouldn't be a frontline soldier anymore, instead being the new character's Anderson, and I'd expect all the major characters would still be alive.

Plus your choices can still matter and you will never get the same mentor.

[401 Kill]

 EVA was there for a bit. But Liara was there before EVA arrived and had already been researching the device.

[Eryri]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Even just a copy-paste of the end of RotK would be awesome in my opinion. That's how you end a series!

I certainly wouldn't complain. I love RotK. I must admit, I didn't appreciate the length of the ending quite so much in the cinema, the first time I saw it though. Too much coffee and cola...

LOTR is an experience much better savoured on DVD, with the help of bathroom breaks.

Modifié par Eryri, 30 décembre 2012 - 09:28 .

[BleedingUranium]

401 Kill wrote...

 EVA was there for a bit. But Liara was there before EVA arrived and had already been researching the device.

You sure? My memory's a bit fuzzy on the timeline.

[401 Kill]

BleedingUranium wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

 EVA was there for a bit. But Liara was there before EVA arrived and had already been researching the device.

You sure? My memory's a bit fuzzy on the timeline.

I am positive.

[BleedingUranium]

Eryri wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Even just a copy-paste of the end of RotK would be awesome in my opinion. That's how you end a series!

I certainly wouldn't complain. I love RotK. I must admit, I didn't appreciate the length of the ending quite so much in the cinema, the first time I saw it though. Too much coffee and cola...

LOTR is an experience much better savoured with the help of bathroom breaks.

Especially when you add all three parts of The Hobbit to it. That'd be about 22 hours!

[BleedingUranium]

401 Kill wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

 EVA was there for a bit. But Liara was there before EVA arrived and had already been researching the device.

You sure? My memory's a bit fuzzy on the timeline.

I am positive.

Okay

[Norlond]

401 Kill wrote...
I am positive.

A hydrogen meets another hydrogen...

Liara was on Mars before Eva, but do we know for sure that she found the Crucible plans before Evas arrival?

[Dwailing]

Darn it why are the fans able to come up with a better ending than the devs? You know, especially if it does turn out that BioWare didn't intend IT.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Eryri wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Even just a copy-paste of the end of RotK would be awesome in my opinion. That's how you end a series!

I certainly wouldn't complain. I love RotK. I must admit, I didn't appreciate the length of the ending quite so much in the cinema, the first time I saw it though. Too much coffee and cola...

LOTR is an experience much better savoured on DVD, with the help of bathroom breaks.

I must admit I am bit of a sucker for bittersweet endings. This mostly relates to a severe dislike for when things seem to just have been too easy for the heroes. When every single good major character is able to walk away unchanged, unscathed from a world changing event something is wrong if you ask me. If things are never going to be the same again the characters of the story should reflect it.

My own stories reflect this and my biggest story is currently planned to end with the death of the main characters as they die to save the world one last time. But they die leaving behind several grown up happy children of theirs who carry on their legacy and eventually rebuild a world which in my mian story had been ravaged by a millenia of struggle.

But that is not the ending I wish upon Mass Effect, Shepard while he may fall, should also be able to rise through this.

We clearly see the effects of the war as several planets are reduced to rubble and even under the best of circumstances at least 3 friends will give or have given their life for us to get as fast as we got. We are constantly reminded of who is gone through the memorial wall (brilliant move by Bioware by the way. Added a tangible reminder of who was gone without forcing it down our throats)

What i need in the ending at the moment is just one final push with the potential of more losses, but not necesarily any who are forced (maybe except Anderson as I really doubt he is going to make it out even in a non IT ending). By now I would feel fine seeing the sun rise and knowing that the Galaxy is free from the threat of the Reapers, to see Shepar reunited with his love interest and a ceremony acknowledging the dead.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 30 décembre 2012 - 09:53 .

[Dwailing]

So, did I miss anything major?

[Eryri]

Eryri wrote...

Yes please to the marriage proposal with the LI. In fact I wouldn't be averse to seeing the actual marriage ceremony. Edi could catch the bouquet and give a meaningful look to a visibly nervous Joker. 

Although that might be pushing the schmaltz factor a little too far for some. People might find it a bit too "Return of the King". EDIT: Not me though, I'd love a thoroughly comprehensive ending that wrapped up happily for everyone. 

Also I'd like Anderson to pull through and get together with Kahlee.

Sorry to quote my own post, but I've decided that I regret my equivocation above. To hell with it, I DO want my Return of the King / Jedi, ending for ME3. I don't care if grimdark-loving hipsters find it cheesy.

It's the ending to an epic 70+ hour story, it deserves a full-on, cathartic experience to wrap up every character's journey.

Tears of sorrow for Mordin and Thane. Tears of joy at the LI reunion.

Garrus and Tali building a house on Rannoch, Tali draws her hood back to show her breathing the air of her own world and smiling. Ando so on for all squadmates, past and present.

I wouldn't mind if the epilogue was an hour long and featured dancing Voluses! (In fact that would be adorable).
I think we deserve a little light relief tbh.

[dorktainian]

Norlond wrote...

401 Kill wrote...
I am positive.

A hydrogen meets another hydrogen...

Liara was on Mars before Eva, but do we know for sure that she found the Crucible plans before Evas arrival?

Go back to mass effect 1.  Liara is rescued and comes over 'all faint' meaning she needs a medical check up.  Beginning of Indoctrination?   

**edit.  top of page 3010.  3010 pages.....amazing**

Modifié par dorktainian, 30 décembre 2012 - 10:05 .

[Rifneno]

Dwailing wrote...

Darn it why are the fans able to come up with a better ending than the devs? You know, especially if it does turn out that BioWare didn't intend IT.

I can't believe people are still doubting it.