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Rifneno wrote...

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Infact, I get the feeling The Intelligence is a Leviathan.


It's certainly possible.  Way more possible than it being a ghost who haunts the Citadel.  Another good possibility is this thing.  It's a planet that some believe may actually be a supercomputer.  Wrap your mind around that.  A computer the size of a planet.  ...  Did I mention it's a gas giant?


That would also be awesome.

The main reason I get the inkling that The Intelligence might be a Leviathan (maybe hiding inside that planet?) is the language the 'Leviathans' used during the conversation - denial of the plan being a failure, and never mentioning that it was synthetic.  It might also make sense that it was an extremist Leviathan who even targetted its own kind.  Maybe those Leviathans are early experiments, and they are partially synthetic (the first failed attempt at synthesis?).

Who knows.  All we can know is there's a lot going on that we don't know about.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

byne wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The Asari have been revealed to be hoarding Prothean technology


If the asari had revealed that beacon at the beginning of the war, how many billions do you think could have been saved?

I imagine a lot of people are going to be very angry with them.


well I don't know. There's still something off about vendetta

Yes, but what does that have to do with the asari?

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Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.


I love that gun so much.  I've started only using that on my Krogan Sentinel, and I'm regularly getting 75 kills a match on Silver and Gold.  Helps that I have a huge stock of thermal clip packs, and I can also grenade-spam all match long (6 grenades due to Shock Trooper package, nom nom).

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@restrider you did miss a vid on why I think the VI was right. It's in my sig now

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Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.


I love that gun so much.  I've started only using that on my Krogan Sentinel, and I'm regularly getting 75 kills a match on Silver and Gold.  Helps that I have a huge stock of thermal clip packs, and I can also grenade-spam all match long (6 grenades due to Shock Trooper package, nom nom).

Nice. The krogan sentinel (Wrex) is awesome. It's the toughest kit in the game too. I rock a Wraith with it, and it really feels like you are a god. I have the Claymore in the krogan soldier kit (Grunt) which happens to be the most powerful melee kit in the game. Those 2 krogan kits are among my favourites.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

byne wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

The Asari have been revealed to be hoarding Prothean technology


If the asari had revealed that beacon at the beginning of the war, how many billions do you think could have been saved?

I imagine a lot of people are going to be very angry with them.


well I don't know. There's still something off about vendetta

Yes, but what does that have to do with the asari?


let's see. Beacon reveal early in the war. Shepard goes to Thessia. TIM send Kai to stop him. Shepard talks to vendetta. Kai attacks. Kai steals vendetta. Shepard returns to the Normandy defeated. 

So what I mean is we may still end up with the same vendetta scene at the end. Just instead of fighting Reapers on Thessia we would have fought cerberus

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.


I love that gun so much.  I've started only using that on my Krogan Sentinel, and I'm regularly getting 75 kills a match on Silver and Gold.  Helps that I have a huge stock of thermal clip packs, and I can also grenade-spam all match long (6 grenades due to Shock Trooper package, nom nom).

Nice. The krogan sentinel (Wrex) is awesome. It's the toughest kit in the game too. I rock a Wraith with it, and it really feels like you are a god. I have the Claymore in the krogan soldier kit (Grunt) which happens to be the most powerful melee kit in the game. Those 2 krogan kits are among my favourites.


Mine is even red armoured, like Wrex.

And yeah...about being tough.  I really don't feel it sometimes, especially against Collectors.  I lost count of how many times I was taken down during my last match.  And I still rocked the scoreboards, due to Lift Grenade spamming.

I wish we could trade powers, or just have a bigger selection to choose from.  I really want Slam, so I can be just like Wrex.  Even though Incinerate is possibly the best tech power overall, and eats armour like Kai Leng eats other people's cereal.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.

I think it's the same size as ME2. The HV barrel is just ENORMOUS. Have you seen it on the Wraith?

TOP.


It's smaller.  Even the wiki mentions it.  "The Mass Effect 3 Claymore model is much smaller than the one used in Mass Effect 2."

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Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.

I think it's the same size as ME2. The HV barrel is just ENORMOUS. Have you seen it on the Wraith?

TOP.


It's smaller.  Even the wiki mentions it.  "The Mass Effect 3 Claymore model is much smaller than the one used in Mass Effect 2."



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hey quick question- does anyone know the context of the images released before ME3 by bioware (e.g., red herring)? i asked a few pages back but i couldn't find a response. did they do this on the mass effect website?

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Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.

I think it's the same size as ME2. The HV barrel is just ENORMOUS. Have you seen it on the Wraith?

TOP.


It's smaller.  Even the wiki mentions it.  "The Mass Effect 3 Claymore model is much smaller than the one used in Mass Effect 2."


I noticed this on my current ME2 playthrough. On a related note, I have the Revenant, Claymore, and Widow Posted Image

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lex0r11 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.

I think it's the same size as ME2. The HV barrel is just ENORMOUS. Have you seen it on the Wraith?

TOP.


It's smaller.  Even the wiki mentions it.  "The Mass Effect 3 Claymore model is much smaller than the one used in Mass Effect 2."



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dafuq is that?:blink: 

It looks like some kinda poison dart-shooting gun.

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estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.

I think it's the same size as ME2. The HV barrel is just ENORMOUS. Have you seen it on the Wraith?

TOP.


It's smaller.  Even the wiki mentions it.  "The Mass Effect 3 Claymore model is much smaller than the one used in Mass Effect 2."



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dafuq is that?:blink: 

It looks like some kinda poison dart-shooting gun.

Afaik, it is the small hand-gun agent K gives agent J in the first MIB movie.
Though it was kind of a hard hitting weapon nonetheless.

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Andromidius wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Speaking of things that kill people, it's depressing how tiny the claymore is in ME3. It still weighs a ton too. WTF is it made out of? Iridium? Seriously, the HV barrel I put on it was half the length of the gun itself.


I love that gun so much.  I've started only using that on my Krogan Sentinel, and I'm regularly getting 75 kills a match on Silver and Gold.  Helps that I have a huge stock of thermal clip packs, and I can also grenade-spam all match long (6 grenades due to Shock Trooper package, nom nom).

Nice. The krogan sentinel (Wrex) is awesome. It's the toughest kit in the game too. I rock a Wraith with it, and it really feels like you are a god. I have the Claymore in the krogan soldier kit (Grunt) which happens to be the most powerful melee kit in the game. Those 2 krogan kits are among my favourites.


Mine is even red armoured, like Wrex.

And yeah...about being tough.  I really don't feel it sometimes, especially against Collectors.  I lost count of how many times I was taken down during my last match.  And I still rocked the scoreboards, due to Lift Grenade spamming.

I wish we could trade powers, or just have a bigger selection to choose from.  I really want Slam, so I can be just like Wrex.  Even though Incinerate is possibly the best tech power overall, and eats armour like Kai Leng eats other people's cereal.

Yeah, you won't feel it as much with Collectors. Mostly because (if I remember right) the Scions' guns do % damage instead of a number. And the troops shoot more than other factions too. But if you slap on Cyclonic Mod IV you'll get 150% more shields!!!

Edit: I skipped Incinerate so I could ingore cooldown and have super heavy weapons.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 30 décembre 2012 - 11:34 .


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The noisy cricket was a joke gun. The claymore is not.

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Rifneno wrote...

The noisy cricket was a joke gun. The claymore is not.

they probably needed to make the claymore smaller because the ME2 versions recoil would break your wrist if you were not either a krogan or shepard, and now everyone can use it in ME3

Modifié par umadcommander, 30 décembre 2012 - 11:37 .


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umadcommander wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The noisy cricket was a joke gun. The claymore is not.

they probably needed to make the claymore smaller because the ME2 versions recoil would break your wrist if you were not either a krogan or shepard, and now everyone can use it in ME3


Agreed, but they didn't need to go so far as to make it look like a toy.  And what happened to the real, original claymores?  Shepard and krogans wouldn't use these sissy, watered down versions.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Epic points if Hacket walked in and the Virmire Survivor immediately standing up in attention only for Hakcet to smile and ask if there is room for one more at the party. 


Fabulous. That would suit me down to the ground.

Commander... Are you ready to bring the might of the galaxy to bear on this party temple?

Happy to report this party is safely under Hackett's command.

ASSUMING CONTROL OF THIS DANCEFLOOR.

Sorry, I got a little carried away there. Posted Image


Ha- Ha! :lol:. They could even make it a playable minigame! Just get the guys who created this... thing and reskin it for ME characters!  

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Rifneno wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The noisy cricket was a joke gun. The claymore is not.

they probably needed to make the claymore smaller because the ME2 versions recoil would break your wrist if you were not either a krogan or shepard, and now everyone can use it in ME3


Agreed, but they didn't need to go so far as to make it look like a toy.  And what happened to the real, original claymores?  Shepard and krogans wouldn't use these sissy, watered down versions.

i wont argue with that, claymore + vanguard in ME2 was awesome

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Claymores got modified so that it can be universally used for military personnel, regardless of species. The reason why Shepard might not have one is because, from what I remember, you buy it from a merchant. Naturally, these merchants would be selling the newest and most used versions than the original ones.

Try comparing the newer claymores with the modern-day M4 carbine. Sure they look pretty small, but they're as dangerous as ever. And after all, the M4 was based off the M16.

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estebanus wrote...

Claymores got modified so that it can be universally used for military personnel, regardless of species. The reason why Shepard might not have one is because, from what I remember, you buy it from a merchant. Naturally, these merchants would be selling the newest and most used versions than the original ones.

Try comparing the newer claymores with the modern-day M4 carbine. Sure they look pretty small, but they're as dangerous as ever. And after all, the M4 was based off the M16.

Shepard finds the Claymore in the krogan camp.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Claymores got modified so that it can be universally used for military personnel, regardless of species. The reason why Shepard might not have one is because, from what I remember, you buy it from a merchant. Naturally, these merchants would be selling the newest and most used versions than the original ones.

Try comparing the newer claymores with the modern-day M4 carbine. Sure they look pretty small, but they're as dangerous as ever. And after all, the M4 was based off the M16.

Shepard finds the Claymore in the krogan camp.

I bought it from Spectre requisitions.

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MassEffectFShep wrote...

hey quick question- does anyone know the context of the images released before ME3 by bioware (e.g., red herring)? i asked a few pages back but i couldn't find a response. did they do this on the mass effect website?


They released the pictures in late 2010, before the VGAs (= before ME3s announcement) on facebook and twitter
coolio posted the analysis after I posted the list, I'll see if I can find it

edit: found it

CoolioThane wrote...

 London Calling - The ClashThe ending takes place in London, clash representing the conflict taking place.
Delve deeper into the record, notice some of the tracks:
i) London Calling
ii) Hateful
iii) Death or Glory
iv) Four Horsemen
v) I'm Not Down
vi) Revolution Rock

Now,
obviously, I'm looking too far into the album, but it interests me.
These tracks strike me as fitting in with the ending. Hatred from and
towards the Reapers, the four horsemen of the apocalypse indicating what
could happen if we fail. Death or glory, success or total annihilation.
Revolution against the norm, the norm being a Reaper victory and thus
ending the cycle.

Atomic Weight of Iron
55.845 +/- 0.002 u
Fe, Atomic Number: 26 

Famous
iron canyons of Aequitas...another link to indoctrination and the
potential Leviathan DLC - if we are right in suggesting the DLC may take
place at Aequitas. If it does not, it is still another link to
indoctrination, with the device in ME2.

Or if you're mental you could look at it like this (This is just for fun, I don't actually believe this):
26 is the Atomic Number
The crystalline structure is Cubic...cubes have 6 faces...

26/6 is the day the Extended Cut was released - CONCLUSIVE (lol)

UK Secret Service
Provides
the government with foreign intelligence - maybe a nudge towards Earth
being supplied information from "foreign" planets, maybe but this is a
reach. Though we do provide Anderson and Earth with info throughout the
game?

Moving on, I suspect it's something to do with Reaper spies
within London, purely because the Indoctrination Codezx entry mentions
this sort of thing and it makes perfect sense. Coates being the Reaper
thrall makes sense, considering he was by himself fighting Reapers for
days and so his mind likely would have been weakened...could also fit
with why we clearly see the warning sign next to him on the Mako similar
to the signs near the kid on Vancouver.

[u][b][color=rgb(170,
170, 170)">-128.6 Fahrenheit ]Vostok Station, Antarctica - -128.6
Fahrenheit the coldest temperature recorded on Earth[/color]

Vostok System - Alko, Clomarthu, Nodacrux, Pataiton, .ALKO - Unregistered starship travel, travel not recommended
CLOMARTHU - Could be Earth's twin (size and orbit) but no life
NODACRUX
- Very interesting. Abandoned facility with Thorian Creepers
(Indoctrination) thus links in with the hinted Leviathan DLC - Also
space cows xD
PATAITON - Meh, just a Matriarch writing Tali discovers on ship

Nodacrux
interests me greatly. Especially with there being mentions to Thorians
in the hinted DLC...this could prove to be a link to these clues

May
also just point to Lake Vostok in Eastern Antarcitca, where scientists
(Now, in the present 2012) hypothesise new life could be found in the
underwater lake...maybe hinting there could be something in the lake
that's been hidden for thousands of years...an Ancient species, a
weapon, plans? This is purely **** thoughts and bull - I'm sure it
relates to the Vostok system, specifically Nodacrux and its Thorian
creepers.

[u][b][color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">Red Herring ]The
most interesting of all. Red Herring, also known as IGNORATIO
ELENCHI...which translates to - which I find absolutely perfect -
IRRELEVANT CONCLUSION, or FALLACY OF DISTRACTION. [/color]

"deliberate
attempt to divert a process of enquiry by changing the subject. For
example: "I think that we should make the academic requirements stricter
for students. I recommend that you support this because we are in a
budget crisis and we do not want our salaries affected."[/i] Here the
second sentence, though used to support the first, does not address the
topic of the first sentence, instead switching the focus to the quite
different topic of lecturer salaries. "


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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Claymores got modified so that it can be universally used for military personnel, regardless of species. The reason why Shepard might not have one is because, from what I remember, you buy it from a merchant. Naturally, these merchants would be selling the newest and most used versions than the original ones.

Try comparing the newer claymores with the modern-day M4 carbine. Sure they look pretty small, but they're as dangerous as ever. And after all, the M4 was based off the M16.

Shepard finds the Claymore in the krogan camp.

I bought it from Spectre requisitions.


Then you missed the one in Aralakh Company's camp.  The best of the best krogan commandos weren't going to be carrying the crappy ones made for weak aliens.

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Yeah, kinda sad.
Just the thought that a weapon was so badass it could only be carried by krogans was awesome.

"Why is he lugging that piece of artillery around?"
"Wait.. HE'S POINTING IT A..."

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