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[The Heretic of Time]

byne wrote...

If I distrust the godchild to the point that I dont think destroy is going to work, then I sure as hell dont trust him enough to pick either of the choices that result in vaporizing me.

Of course. I never said you would. I just said that if you do trust him, then you can also trust that Control and Synthesis work the way they are presented by him.

If we're talking just the literalist perspective, I dont trust the godchild's intentions, but I trust that what he tells me is what will happen.

He tells me destroy is the worst option. He wants me to pick one of the other two.

He is the leader of the Reapers.

He can go **** himself.

Destroy everytime.

That's reasonable. 

I like both Destroy and Control. Like I said, my 1st Shepard chose Destroy, my 2nd Shepard chose Control.

I don't like Synthesis at all. In fact, I hate that option.

[Rifneno]

iggy1eco wrote...

The Omega DLC would be cool if they actually could add the enemies that are meant to be there, but unfortunately the same engine becomes overwhelmed. I won't say anything else, unless you asked, because it's in the Novels lol the invasion of Omea I mean.

Comics actually.  And good riddance, banshees' teleporting is enraging enough.

[lex0r11]

spinachdiaper wrote...

stop the insanity!

[iggy1eco]

Rifneno wrote...

iggy1eco wrote...

The Omega DLC would be cool if they actually could add the enemies that are meant to be there, but unfortunately the same engine becomes overwhelmed. I won't say anything else, unless you asked, because it's in the Novels lol the invasion of Omea I mean.

Comics actually.  And good riddance, banshees' teleporting is enraging enough.

I usually say novels because I consider everything a whole narrative lol, despite how it's represented. That's a personal thing only, but what you say it's so true  

[The Heretic of Time]

masster blaster wrote...

Hanar, and nor is Destroy. The Catalyst said the cycle will start over, but is it in Destroy? No it's not I don"t see the cycle restarting like it said it would.

The epilogue only shows the short-term effects of your decision, not really the long-term. Maybe the cycle will start again within a couple of million years, you don't know that.


I'm not against the Destroy option by the way. I think Destroy is just as good as Control (I just think Control is cooler ). I only hate Synthesis.

[Home run MF]

iggy1eco wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Macross wrote...

The whole biotic Aria thing, well here's another explanation. Firstly, who plays Aria, Carrie Anne Moss of course. Now who is she best known for playing. Trinity from Matrix of course and the dev team did state that the end of the Matrix was a big influence... So this is my reasoning. 

 
COULD SHE GET ANY HOTTER?

Don't **** with Aria.

I'm so waiting for the Omega DLC <3

The Omega DLC would be cool if they actually could add the enemies that are meant to be there, but unfortunately the same engine becomes overwhelmed. I won't say anything else, unless you asked, because it's in the Novels lol the invasion of Omea I mean.

Yes the Adj***** I know, but isn't that what the banshees do anyway? And there's even more than one at the same time. I mean if platinum doesn't overwhelm the engine could they?

[masster blaster]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Hanar, and nor is Destroy. The Catalyst said the cycle will start over, but is it in Destroy? No it's not I don"t see the cycle restarting like it said it would.

The epilogue only shows the short-term effects of your decision, not really the long-term. Maybe the cycle will start again within a couple of million years, you don't know that.


I'm not against the Destroy option by the way. I think Destroy is just as good as Control (I just think Control is cooler ). I only hate Synthesis.

As we don"t know if Shepard will start the cycle all over again in Control, and nor do we know about synthesis future.

And I hate synthesis too, so we both agree that Synthesis we hate.

[iggy1eco]

Home run MF wrote...

iggy1eco wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Macross wrote...

The whole biotic Aria thing, well here's another explanation. Firstly, who plays Aria, Carrie Anne Moss of course. Now who is she best known for playing. Trinity from Matrix of course and the dev team did state that the end of the Matrix was a big influence... So this is my reasoning. 

 
COULD SHE GET ANY HOTTER?

Don't **** with Aria.

I'm so waiting for the Omega DLC <3

The Omega DLC would be cool if they actually could add the enemies that are meant to be there, but unfortunately the same engine becomes overwhelmed. I won't say anything else, unless you asked, because it's in the Novels lol the invasion of Omea I mean.

Yes the Adj***** I know, but isn't that what the banshees do anyway? And there's even more than one at the same time. I mean if platinum doesn't overwhelm the engine could they?

Yeah it's strange, unless they had another type of physics for the adj***** in the game. Another type of teleportation, different from the Bashees. Or maybe, they have other plans for it and stored somewhere else. If they know it overwhelms, that's because they tried with actual Adj****

Modifié par iggy1eco, 08 août 2012 - 10:40 .

[The Heretic of Time]

masster blaster wrote...

As we don"t know if Shepard will start the cycle all over again in Control, and nor do we know about synthesis future.

Indeed, it's all open to speculation. 

And I hate synthesis too, so we both agree that Synthesis we hate.

I probably hate it for different reasons than you do though.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 08 août 2012 - 10:40 .

[TJBartlemus]

Masster! Hanar! Cut the cr**! No one is going to win. The whole point of the ending is to choose what you liked. So really all it is is a battle of opinions not of IT or literalism. So cut it out. And if you can't then just go to PM's for all I care. Just stop.

[smokingotter1]

masster blaster wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Hanar, and nor is Destroy. The Catalyst said the cycle will start over, but is it in Destroy? No it's not I don"t see the cycle restarting like it said it would.

The epilogue only shows the short-term effects of your decision, not really the long-term. Maybe the cycle will start again within a couple of million years, you don't know that.


I'm not against the Destroy option by the way. I think Destroy is just as good as Control (I just think Control is cooler ). I only hate Synthesis.

As we don"t know if Shepard will start the cycle all over again in Control, and nor do we know about synthesis future.

And I hate synthesis too, so we both agree that Synthesis we hate.

I think the people who like synthesis are in a very small minority, I hardly ever meet people who say "man I really like synthesis." I just find the entire concept stupid and hippy-ish.

[BlazingZephyr]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I probably hate it for different reasons than you do though.

"Limitations. Without limitations, culture stagnates." Just my two and a half cents.

[The Heretic of Time]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Masster! Hanar! Cut the cr**! No one is going to win. The whole point of the ending is to choose what you liked. So really all it is is a battle of opinions not of IT or literalism. So cut it out. And if you can't then just go to PM's for all I care. Just stop.

Chill the f*ck down. We're just having a non-violent discusison here. Sure, it got a little heated back there, but we're fine now.

We're just talking, so chill out buddy.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 08 août 2012 - 10:44 .

[masster blaster]

BlazingZephyr wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I probably hate it for different reasons than you do though.

"Limitations. Without limitations, culture stagnates." Just my two and a half cents.

no I just hate it that's all, and it's BS.

[smokingotter1]

Ok moving the conversation along.... so the MP seems to be following the SP timeline, right (and hopefully to a juicy reveal)? I don't know what the next MP challenge will be because I forgot when exactly Anderson informed Shepard about the conduit? Obviously this MP challenge will happen before that moment. Where in SP should Shepard be right now?

[The Heretic of Time]

BlazingZephyr wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I probably hate it for different reasons than you do though.

"Limitations. Without limitations, culture stagnates." Just my two and a half cents.

This. And the fact that Sythesis relies on a lot of headcanon in order for it to make sense (and even with whole essays of headcanon, synthesis and how it works still doesn't make sense to me). And the fact that synthesis feels like a cheap and easy way out. It's much cooler and much more awesome if we'd manage to reach synthesis on our own terms through our own hard work, not by a simple press of a button on the Crucible (or a leap of faith in a beam, whatever).

[TJBartlemus]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Masster! Hanar! Cut the cr**! No one is going to win. The whole point of the ending is to choose what you liked. So really all it is is a battle of opinions not of IT or literalism. So cut it out. And if you can't then just go to PM's for all I care. Just stop.

Chill the f*ck down. We're just having a non-violent discusison here. Sure, it got a little heated back there, but we're fine now.

We're just talking, so chill out buddy.

I am just really annoyed. You guys, no offense, going on and on about the same points is quite as annoying as any troll. It also doesn't involve IT. If you want to speak about which ending is best then go to one of those threads.

[BlazingZephyr]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

BlazingZephyr wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I probably hate it for different reasons than you do though.

"Limitations. Without limitations, culture stagnates." Just my two and a half cents.

This. And the fact that Sythesis relies on a lot of headcanon in order for it to make sense (and even with whole essays of headcanon, synthesis and how it works still doesn't make sense to me). And the fact that synthesis feels like a cheap and easy way out. It's much cooler and much more awesome if we'd manage to reach synthesis on our own terms through our own hard work, not by a simple press of a button on the Crucible (or a leap of faith in a beam, whatever).

"It is not something that can be forced," so jump into the beam and force it upon everybody.

[MaximizedAction]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Ok moving the conversation along.... so the MP seems to be following the SP timeline, right (and hopefully to a juicy reveal)? I don't know what the next MP challenge will be because I forgot when exactly Anderson informed Shepard about the conduit? Obviously this MP challenge will happen before that moment. Where in SP should Shepard be right now?

Didn't Anderson inform Shep about the ending somewhere around Thessia? I'm not sure, but I think it was in a rather progressed state of the story.

[masster blaster]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Ok moving the conversation along.... so the MP seems to be following the SP timeline, right (and hopefully to a juicy reveal)? I don't know what the next MP challenge will be because I forgot when exactly Anderson informed Shepard about the conduit? Obviously this MP challenge will happen before that moment. Where in SP should Shepard be right now?

let's see um going to Thesisa i believe.

[Emiya_Archer]

I was watching the discussion and i wanted to add my 2 cents.:innocent:

Behind the proto-reaper there are lightning flashes like those during the return to the citadel (for those who say that their shepard didn't do lotsb).
And also during that conversation you hear one of the reasons that make synthesis bad.


And even Miranda (the so called cerberus cheerleader) agrees that destroying the base is the right choice.


BTW look at the celeing! OMG TIM is a GAWD! 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn3NV_-ssGo&feature=player_detailpage#t=450s

Now to more serious stuff.

I still can't understand how some people think that control or synthesis can be viable choices, and even less how could some think that you could work with TIM in ME3.

If you destroy the collector base(paragon), your squad says this:

Samara
Thane
Miranda
Legion
Mordin

And if you kept it(renegade), they say this.

[Home run MF]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Ok moving the conversation along.... so the MP seems to be following the SP timeline, right (and hopefully to a juicy reveal)? I don't know what the next MP challenge will be because I forgot when exactly Anderson informed Shepard about the conduit? Obviously this MP challenge will happen before that moment. Where in SP should Shepard be right now?

Whe could be at the part where Anderson says something big is happening in London, wich I don't think it's possible since it's mid game.
Or when he talks about the beam, but this is at the end of the game when Hackett boards the Normandy

[The Heretic of Time]

By the way TJBartlemus, I gave your Waking NIghtmare Theory some consideration and I think it makes more sense than the classic vanilla version of the Indoctrination Theory.

Not that I believe in any of the theories. I accept the endings for what they are (call me a literalist, I don't care). I just wanted to say that from the available theories, yours seems the to be the one that is the least far-fetched.

[smokingotter1]

MaximizedAction wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Ok moving the conversation along.... so the MP seems to be following the SP timeline, right (and hopefully to a juicy reveal)? I don't know what the next MP challenge will be because I forgot when exactly Anderson informed Shepard about the conduit? Obviously this MP challenge will happen before that moment. Where in SP should Shepard be right now?

Didn't Anderson inform Shep about the ending somewhere around Thessia? I'm not sure, but I think it was in a rather progressed state of the story.

So we are pretty close than... maybe next MP pack will include a cerberus chronos statation and another thessia map... and more clues.

[TJBartlemus]

 On an IT related post, estebanus and I are going on solutions to the Reaper threat using the Crucible. (not the ones already but a new one that could make conventional victory possible) Here was estebanus's idea. I say it wouldn't work but I wanted your guys opinions/ideas on it.

"Basically, the crucible scrambles the reapers' IFFs and cuts off their long-range communication. This would mean that the reapers's ground forces would be neutralized and they wouldn't be able to see the difference between friend and foe, meaning they'd end up attacking each other. This would make a conventional victory possible, since the reapers would be so disorganized and weakened from killing each other, that the fleets actually are strong enough to kill the reapers."

This part of it I agree could work. The next however I believe wouldn't make it be anywhere effective.

" it is only effective within a very small radius, which means it must be brought near the reapers for it to amplify its signals."

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 08 août 2012 - 10:59 .