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[Dwailing]

umadcommander wrote...

looking at all this, people that call "bad riteing lulz" make me sick

I wonder who wrote the Codex?  Was it Walters?  If so, then that would count as evidence for IT, if you ask me... 

[Eryri]

LadySuspense wrote...

Well then. New question. What memories does everyone hold dearly of Mass Effect? What moment made the series so great to you? What made the experience?

I came to Mass Effect in a slightly roundabout way. I rented ME2 for the PS3, and despite not really having a clue about the back story and what was going on, I instantly fell in love with it.

I bought Dragon Age 2, mainly because there was a promotion for a free PC copy of ME2. Since I wanted to get the full experience, I thought I might as well get ME1, but I found that the crappy, on-board graphics on my self-built computer weren't up to the task, so I shelled out £120 for a graphics card that I wouldn't otherwise have bought.

I used to love Star Trek:TNG and Babylon 5 as a kid, so the main reason I'm such a fan of ME is because it's a huge nostalgia trip for me. It has particular similarities to B5 - a vast overarching plot that slowly reveals itself. A diplomatic space-station with a seedy underbelly. Ancient, mysterious and terrifying entities, waiting at the edge of known space. It's all the best bits of my favourite series. 

Plus the characters and voice acting are just superb. I loved Joker's sarcastic jokes and his banter with Edi, and Garrus' dry wit.

[umadcommander]

Dwailing wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

looking at all this, people that call "bad riteing lulz" make me sick

I wonder who wrote the Codex?  Was it Walters?  If so, then that would count as evidence for IT, if you ask me... 

the codex is pretty vast im guessing it was a collabaration so he probably helped with it

[Andromidius]

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, this is interesting. OK, I just read the synopsis of Paragon Lost, and it's... interesting. Apparently, the Cerberus agent was working with the Collectors for the purpose of gaining intel on them that would eventually help Cerberus, intel that showed that they were both Huskified Protheans AND that they planned on making a Human Reaper. Intel that the Alliance got their hands on. I wonder how much they really hid from Shepard during ME2... 

Or just how little they cared about the actual lore.

Anyway, I think Mass Effect really stole me during the mission on Virmire.  Not even the end of it, the whole damn thing.  I was enjoying the game up to that point (even if Novaria caused me a lot of deaths... and that Krogan Battlemaster you fight after saving Liara almost made me ragequit the whole game).  Illos cemented my love for the game.

[401 Kill]

LadySuspense wrote...

Well then. New question. What memories does everyone hold dearly of Mass Effect? What moment made the series so great to you? What made the experience?

I would say the squadmates. I think that is what makes the game stand out. You always get to choose who is by your side. You can have in depth conversations with them, and you have many of them. A lot of other games don't have nearly as developed characters, and Mass Effect has many characters that are amazing.

One thing that has stood out above all the rest are the dream sequences. I love playing the sequences, put my headphones on and turn up the volume. I guess I just like all the whispers from fallen friends "You're the only friend I've made in ten years." Easily the greatest line in the game.

[BansheeOwnage]

Rifneno wrote...
They give explanations for how the most mundane and pointless things work. The detail is simply breathtaking. Even in 3, which is constantly slammed for the writing, there's so many great stories in the codex and the war assets descriptions. Then there's the science. People rag on it all the time for "space magic" but the series has tried very hard to keep things as scientifically believable as possible. It's just so good that it goes over most people's heads. Ferrofluids, quantum entanglement, dark energy, it's so good that it gets mistaken for bad. Incredible.

LadySuspense wrote...
Oh man the codex detail! I have spent hours reading the descriptions for the codex and war assets! They are phenomenal and the best examples of in game codex that exist. Other games have tried to copyright it but they can never get the depth to it that ME did.

I'll just unofficially add these to my list.

[Andromidius]

401 Kill wrote...
"You're the only friend I've made in ten years." Easily the greatest line in the game.

Who said that, again?

[umadcommander]

Andromidius wrote...

401 Kill wrote...
"You're the only friend I've made in ten years." Easily the greatest line in the game.

Who said that, again?

i believe it was thane

[401 Kill]

Andromidius wrote...

401 Kill wrote...
"You're the only friend I've made in ten years." Easily the greatest line in the game.

Who said that, again?

Thane.

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...
They give explanations for how the most mundane and pointless things work. The detail is simply breathtaking. Even in 3, which is constantly slammed for the writing, there's so many great stories in the codex and the war assets descriptions. Then there's the science. People rag on it all the time for "space magic" but the series has tried very hard to keep things as scientifically believable as possible. It's just so good that it goes over most people's heads. Ferrofluids, quantum entanglement, dark energy, it's so good that it gets mistaken for bad. Incredible.

People fear what they don't understand.  And usually when they lack intelligence and curiousity to discover what they don't know, they ridicule it instead.

Most people don't understand science.  I only have the slightest grasp of more then the basics myself, and I love science!  So its no suprise most people don't have the faintest idea about Science Fiction, and the difference between 'techno-babble' and 'hard sci-fi'.

[Dwailing]

Andromidius wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, this is interesting. OK, I just read the synopsis of Paragon Lost, and it's... interesting. Apparently, the Cerberus agent was working with the Collectors for the purpose of gaining intel on them that would eventually help Cerberus, intel that showed that they were both Huskified Protheans AND that they planned on making a Human Reaper. Intel that the Alliance got their hands on. I wonder how much they really hid from Shepard during ME2... 

Or just how little they cared about the actual lore.

How do you mean?  It explains the otherwise odd comment James makes about there being a Cerberus agent working with the Collectors, and given that Shepard was already back by that point and working with Cerberus, it isn't a massive surprise that they didn't give him the intel, especially considering the amount of bureaucracy that it probably got stuck in.

Edit: To clarify, the Cerberus agent was trying to get intel to help Cerberus take down the Collectors (You know, Shepard's job).  At least, that's what I gathered.  And the Collectors turned on his anyway.

Modifié par Dwailing, 31 décembre 2012 - 09:46 .

[LadySuspense]

Andromidius wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, this is interesting. OK, I just read the synopsis of Paragon Lost, and it's... interesting. Apparently, the Cerberus agent was working with the Collectors for the purpose of gaining intel on them that would eventually help Cerberus, intel that showed that they were both Huskified Protheans AND that they planned on making a Human Reaper. Intel that the Alliance got their hands on. I wonder how much they really hid from Shepard during ME2... 

Or just how little they cared about the actual lore.

Anyway, I think Mass Effect really stole me during the mission on Virmire.  Not even the end of it, the whole damn thing.  I was enjoying the game up to that point (even if Novaria caused me a lot of deaths... and that Krogan Battlemaster you fight after saving Liara almost made me ragequit the whole game).  Illos cemented my love for the game.

Ilos is my favorite part of Mass Effect (1). It was so beautifully done, what with the fall like symbolism of the place dieing, the truly different way it looked, vigil. The list can continue for quite a ways. Man so many different moments in such a truly awesome gaming experience.

[Dwailing]

umadcommander wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

looking at all this, people that call "bad riteing lulz" make me sick

I wonder who wrote the Codex?  Was it Walters?  If so, then that would count as evidence for IT, if you ask me... 

the codex is pretty vast im guessing it was a collabaration so he probably helped with it

And if he wrote the entry on indoctrination...

[BansheeOwnage]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

LadySuspense wrote...

Well then. New question. What memories does everyone hold dearly of Mass Effect? What moment made the series so great to you? What made the experience?

The sheer size and scope was amazing for me. I'm actually pretty new to ME. I had heard about it before, but I only played it when the demo for 3 came out. Even that was pretty overwhelming in terms of all the new stuff that opened up for me, since I have an FPS backrground. The races, the weapons, powers, classes, it was so much stuff at once it was awesome and hindering at the same time. I think ME had the longest learning curve of any game for me, which I like.

After the ME3 demo I bought ME1 and 2. The fact that I could make my own Shepard, and have her act the way I wanted was new to me, and it was awesome! I never felt so immersed. One of the best memories I have is the first time I went to the citadel. It was an information overload! Walking around talking to all of the different races, learning about the technilogy, the culture, the biology. Reading codex entries, getting lost, using the map. All of the sidemissions, places to explore and squadmates' dialogue was interesting. I had spent 4 hours straight on the citadel before thinking I should probably go eat.

Liara.

I loved how the ME1 crew really felt connected and a lot of that was because of the conferences after missions. I sat there for quite a while when I had to chose between Kaidan and Ash. Kirrahe's Hold the Line speech was epic. Sovereign... that voice. As soon as I heard him saying the reapers were the pinnacle of evolution I knew what kind of villains these were. Saren's indoctrination was fascinating. I was really pumped when I finished ME1. The end was epic and oh, did I want to play ME2 after that! Fortunately, I had it.

ME2 was a major step up in combat. The dirty dozen was pretty cool, if more disconnected than ME1's squad. Meeting Joker and seeing the Normandy SR-2 made me feel so good, so at home and nostalgic. It didn't feel like I didn't know anyone after that. Seeing the rest of the ME1 squad again was great too. Wrex, who Shepard rubbed off on, uniting the krogan. Liara. Garrus being Archangel, and figuring that out just before it was revealed! Kelly Chambers was very cute too.

Harbinger was so cool. Love his voice. And when it was revealed that he was a reaper, that was sweet. TIM was a really interesting character too. Very stylish. And of course the Suicide Mission. So. Epic. I was so looking foward to ME3's ending because of that. Oh well. Even just walking past you crew and having them nod at you was more than what we got. But I digress. If they ending to ME1 got me pumped to play ME2, you have no idea how pumped I was to play ME3 after the across-the-galaxy staredown with Harbinger and his reaper armada!

I'll leave ME3 out, as I don't feel like doing another paragraph.

I didn't even talk about the music! Well I could go on for as long about the music, I'll just say: Vigil, End Run, I Was Lost Without You.

[umadcommander]

Dwailing wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

looking at all this, people that call "bad riteing lulz" make me sick

I wonder who wrote the Codex?  Was it Walters?  If so, then that would count as evidence for IT, if you ask me... 

the codex is pretty vast im guessing it was a collabaration so he probably helped with it

And if he wrote the entry on indoctrination...

he's the lead writer he would have at least seen it (and any alterations to it:whistle:)

[Dwailing]

Well, I'm going to get off the thread for a bit and actually DO something today. Like play a game, or do homework before break is over. Adios for now ladies and gents, and Happy New Year if I don't come back today.

[Andromidius]

Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, this is interesting. OK, I just read the synopsis of Paragon Lost, and it's... interesting. Apparently, the Cerberus agent was working with the Collectors for the purpose of gaining intel on them that would eventually help Cerberus, intel that showed that they were both Huskified Protheans AND that they planned on making a Human Reaper. Intel that the Alliance got their hands on. I wonder how much they really hid from Shepard during ME2... 

Or just how little they cared about the actual lore.

How do you mean?  It explains the otherwise odd comment James makes about there being a Cerberus agent working with the Collectors, and given that Shepard was already back by that point and working with Cerberus, it isn't a massive surprise that they didn't give him the intel, especially considering the amount of bureaucracy that it probably got stuck in.

Edit: To clarify, the Cerberus agent was trying to get intel to help Cerberus take down the Collectors (You know, Shepard's job).  At least, that's what I gathered.  And the Collectors turned on his anyway.

Considering everything else that show got wrong, I'm not taking anything it says for truth.

[umadcommander]

oh and another little detail i love about the series in general, the descriptions of each planet i love that sort of detail

[LadySuspense]

Happy New Year Dwailing in case of need!

[LadySuspense]

@unacommander- I am acutally reading the planet descriptions as I play ME1. lol I have read all of the planet descriptions for the Artemis Tau Cluster while going to go save Liara. So cool, and so much info to absorb.

[LadySuspense]

Andromidius wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Huh, this is interesting. OK, I just read the synopsis of Paragon Lost, and it's... interesting. Apparently, the Cerberus agent was working with the Collectors for the purpose of gaining intel on them that would eventually help Cerberus, intel that showed that they were both Huskified Protheans AND that they planned on making a Human Reaper. Intel that the Alliance got their hands on. I wonder how much they really hid from Shepard during ME2... 

Or just how little they cared about the actual lore.

How do you mean?  It explains the otherwise odd comment James makes about there being a Cerberus agent working with the Collectors, and given that Shepard was already back by that point and working with Cerberus, it isn't a massive surprise that they didn't give him the intel, especially considering the amount of bureaucracy that it probably got stuck in.

Edit: To clarify, the Cerberus agent was trying to get intel to help Cerberus take down the Collectors (You know, Shepard's job).  At least, that's what I gathered.  And the Collectors turned on his anyway.

Considering everything else that show got wrong, I'm not taking anything it says for truth.

Wait, are we talking about Paragon Lost here?

[LadySuspense]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

LadySuspense wrote...

Well then. New question. What memories does everyone hold dearly of Mass Effect? What moment made the series so great to you? What made the experience?

The sheer size and scope was amazing for me. I'm actually pretty new to ME. I had heard about it before, but I only played it when the demo for 3 came out. Even that was pretty overwhelming in terms of all the new stuff that opened up for me, since I have an FPS backrground. The races, the weapons, powers, classes, it was so much stuff at once it was awesome and hindering at the same time. I think ME had the longest learning curve of any game for me, which I like.

After the ME3 demo I bought ME1 and 2. The fact that I could make my own Shepard, and have her act the way I wanted was new to me, and it was awesome! I never felt so immersed. One of the best memories I have is the first time I went to the citadel. It was an information overload! Walking around talking to all of the different races, learning about the technilogy, the culture, the biology. Reading codex entries, getting lost, using the map. All of the sidemissions, places to explore and squadmates' dialogue was interesting. I had spent 4 hours straight on the citadel before thinking I should probably go eat.

Liara.

I loved how the ME1 crew really felt connected and a lot of that was because of the conferences after missions. I sat there for quite a while when I had to chose between Kaidan and Ash. Kirrahe's Hold the Line speech was epic. Sovereign... that voice. As soon as I heard him saying the reapers were the pinnacle of evolution I knew what kind of villains these were. Saren's indoctrination was fascinating. I was really pumped when I finished ME1. The end was epic and oh, did I want to play ME2 after that! Fortunately, I had it.

ME2 was a major step up in combat. The dirty dozen was pretty cool, if more disconnected than ME1's squad. Meeting Joker and seeing the Normandy SR-2 made me feel so good, so at home and nostalgic. It didn't feel like I didn't know anyone after that. Seeing the rest of the ME1 squad again was great too. Wrex, who Shepard rubbed off on, uniting the krogan. Liara. Garrus being Archangel, and figuring that out just before it was revealed! Kelly Chambers was very cute too.

Harbinger was so cool. Love his voice. And when it was revealed that he was a reaper, that was sweet. TIM was a really interesting character too. Very stylish. And of course the Suicide Mission. So. Epic. I was so looking foward to ME3's ending because of that. Oh well. Even just walking past you crew and having them nod at you was more than what we got. But I digress. If they ending to ME1 got me pumped to play ME2, you have no idea how pumped I was to play ME3 after the across-the-galaxy staredown with Harbinger and his reaper armada!

I'll leave ME3 out, as I don't feel like doing another paragraph.

I didn't even talk about the music! Well I could go on for as long about the music, I'll just say: Vigil, End Run, I Was Lost Without You.

Seems Legit...

Edit- woah sorry for spamming posts...

Modifié par LadySuspense, 31 décembre 2012 - 09:58 .

[umadcommander]

LadySuspense wrote...

@unacommander- I am acutally reading the planet descriptions as I play ME1. lol I have read all of the planet descriptions for the Artemis Tau Cluster while going to go save Liara. So cool, and so much info to absorb.

galaxy map theme:wub:

[Kabraxal]

I don't remember the specific moment that Mass Effect suddenly had me emotionally at a level very few games get... I was one of those that pre-ordered the first game and played it right away. But at first it was underwhelming, then after about half through something just clicked when I realised I loved the different worlds you could explore, I just had to get back to talk to Ash again, I had to make sure I didn't lose a squadmate, then only to realise I must make a sacrifice for the mission... then by the end when the final space battle is happening and the Conduit run.. yeah, I knew the game was something special.

ME2 was actually much the same way. The changes took some time to get used to, but about halfway through I started loving the character moments and then they had the suicide run, which is hands down one of the greatest sequences in all of storytelling PERIOD. Not just games, but movies and books and TV. That is how epic the suicide run was and how well it was written.

And sadly, you see that potential in ME3... Priority Earth could be just as epic and momentous in the history of storytelling but then someone forgot they were writing an ending to Mass Effect and screwed it up. O well, that's why this thread exists... hope that it all comes together in an epic conclusion that would blow everything out of the water.

[LadySuspense]

umadcommander wrote...

LadySuspense wrote...

@unacommander- I am acutally reading the planet descriptions as I play ME1. lol I have read all of the planet descriptions for the Artemis Tau Cluster while going to go save Liara. So cool, and so much info to absorb.

galaxy map theme:wub:

Indeed!