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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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umadcommander wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Man, BSN scares the hell out of me. Some of these people have a moral compass that would make Vlad the Impaler take a step back. "TIM's not evil, he's just misunderstood!" "No, the asari shouldn't be punished for withholding Prothean tech that could've saved billions!" "The catalyst is just doing what it thinks is right!" "The templars are necessary, you just hate religion!"

i rarely leave this thread, if i do its to bash synthesis but i think thats justified


I just find it too confusing when I try to have conversations in other threads. I was debating with a pro-ending, synthesis supporter the other day, on the subject of the synthesis ending being a mess because of the agonising continued existance of the husks, and their even more hideous variants such as Scions and Pretorians. The debate started when someone claimed that if the husks really were unhappy they could kill themselves if they wished, but it was immoral for Shepard to make that decision for them by picking Destroy. I pointed out that might be problematic for things like Scions containing several huskified people merged together, if one or more of them wanted to end it all, but the others did not.

Because I didn't want to come across as an IT zealot, I tried to argue against it from a literal point of view, so I came across as an anti-ender. And he accused me of being such, and of deliberately seeing the worst in synthesis to fit my preconceived dislike of the endings. But if IT was intended by Bioware, then I'm NOT an anti-ender. Synthesis is actually brilliant, because we were SUPPOSED to find it disgusting and unbelievable.

In the end I gave up. Too much cognitive dissonance, or whatever it is when you try to hold too many views in one tiny human brain.

Modifié par Eryri, 31 décembre 2012 - 11:22 .


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HiddenInWar wrote...

 Happy new year Indoctrionationists! I sort of what to get involved in this thread but I wouldn't where to begin. :?


And a Happy New Year to you too. Start wherever and however you like, new folks are always welcome.

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Rifneno wrote...
"TIM's not evil, he's just misunderstood!"

 

TIM's a manipulative control freak who was ensnared by puppet master(s) even greater than him. A fitting end I think. I like the character though as any other well written and well-acted antagonist.

 "No, the asari shouldn't be punished for withholding Prothean tech that could've saved billions!"


That's like saying humanity should be punished because of Cerberus......

Those asari responsible for it should be punished. Not their whole nation or species. If anyone ever discovers the truth anyway. Lots of crimes get lost in the times of war, especially when the war is desperate survival against the Reapers.

"The templars are necessary, you just hate religion!"


Blood magic / blood mages are even worse. Sacrificing and endangering innocent people to gain power from demons who corrupt and try to seize control. And those Tevinter bastards whose whole nation enslave and sacrifice slaves? Far, far worse.

Speaking of which, Tevinter = Red Wizards of Thay.

Yeah, templars are extreme especially with their rite of annulment, but it is because of the blood magic the templar order even exists in the first place I reckon.

dorktainian wrote...
all those conversations aboard the citadel regarding strange voices


Hmm?

Modifié par Humakt83, 31 décembre 2012 - 11:42 .


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Eryri wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Man, BSN scares the hell out of me. Some of these people have a moral compass that would make Vlad the Impaler take a step back. "TIM's not evil, he's just misunderstood!" "No, the asari shouldn't be punished for withholding Prothean tech that could've saved billions!" "The catalyst is just doing what it thinks is right!" "The templars are necessary, you just hate religion!"

i rarely leave this thread, if i do its to bash synthesis but i think thats justified


I just find it too confusing when I try to have conversations in other threads. I was debating with a pro-ending, synthesis supporter the other day, on the subject of the synthesis ending being a mess because of the agonising continued existance of the husks, and their even more hideous variants such as Scions and Pretorians. The debate started when someone claimed that if the husks really were unhappy they could kill themselves if they wished, but it was immoral for Shepard to make that decision for them by picking Destroy. I pointed out that might be problematic for things like Scions containing several huskified people merged together, if one or more of them wanted to end it all, but the others did not.

Because I didn't want to come across as an IT zealot, I tried to argue against it from a literal point of view, so I came across as an anti-ender. And he accused me of being such, and of deliberately seeing the worst in synthesis to fit my preconceived dislike of the endings. But if IT was intended by Bioware, then I'm NOT an anti-ender. Synthesis is actually brilliant, because we were SUPPOSED to find it disgusting and unbelievable.

In the end I gave up. Too much cognitive dissonance, or whatever it is when you try to hold too many views in one tiny human brain.


Then it's time for a Revolution!

Call to arm's for an army shall be raised.

Byne will be our leader.
The ITer's that have been here the longest that post shall be his generals.
The rest of the ITers/lurkers shall be foot soldiers.

#75880
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@masster
I know its been a week but did I get anything for Christmas from you?

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

@masster
I know its been a week but did I get anything for Christmas from you?


Ya sorry about that. Thing at home have been very good/ bad. Haven't had the time to post it. will post it tommorow.

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Oh Im sorry your home life was turbulent. I was asking because I thought I missed it being gone the week of Christmas. Do it whenever you have time. =^)

as for the IT army, I call dibs on piloting a mecha.

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Happy New Year ITers. Midnights just gone so i can finally get some sleep....

may indoctrination be revealed and we finally get the ending we truly deserve.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Oh Im sorry your home life was turbulent. I was asking because I thought I missed it being gone the week of Christmas. Do it whenever you have time. =^)

as for the IT army, I call dibs on piloting a mecha.


I call driving the Mako.

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Happy New Year! (from UK)

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A Happy New Year (+1 h in) from Germany to y'all!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 01 janvier 2013 - 12:01 .


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Okay LDS here is your present.


You can use this for posting it on your birthday, party time, or other ITer's birthday's.


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http://www.google.co...,r:25,s:0,i:185

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 janvier 2013 - 12:20 .


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Happy New Year everyone.

Modifié par Scott_Cross, 01 janvier 2013 - 12:10 .


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Byne you gift is

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Modifié par masster blaster, 01 janvier 2013 - 12:08 .


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Happy New Year everyone!

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Banshee your gift is

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Modifié par masster blaster, 01 janvier 2013 - 12:09 .


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HiddenInWar wrote...

 Happy new year Indoctrionationists! I sort of what to get involved in this thread but I wouldn't where to begin. :?

Begin here. And at page 1 I guess.

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Blurr your gift is

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Modifié par masster blaster, 01 janvier 2013 - 12:11 .


#75894
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masster blaster wrote...

Banshee your gift is

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Hahahaha!!! Awesome dude! Awesome!

Here is yours!
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Badger your gift is

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Modifié par masster blaster, 01 janvier 2013 - 12:17 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Banshee your gift is

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Hahahaha!!! Awesome dude! Awesome!

Here is yours!
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How did you know I watch this?

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Eryri wrote...
I just find it too confusing when I try to have conversations in other threads. I was debating with a pro-ending, synthesis supporter the other day, on the subject of the synthesis ending being a mess because of the agonising continued existance of the husks, and their even more hideous variants such as Scions and Pretorians. The debate started when someone claimed that if the husks really were unhappy they could kill themselves if they wished, but it was immoral for Shepard to make that decision for them by picking Destroy. I pointed out that might be problematic for things like Scions containing several huskified people merged together, if one or more of them wanted to end it all, but the others did not.

Quoted for truth. This is just sad. To add to it though, I can undermine the basis of his entire argument by reminding him that the husks were not sentient/sapient until synthesis, therefore destroy doesn't make any decision for them.

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masster blaster wrote...

How did you know I watch this?

To be honest I didn't, but I read your posts in his voice! Posted Image Glad you understand the reference!

Try to keep the pictures down though, or we'll be banned. I heard Blur was banned for a day. Anyone know anything about that?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

How did you know I watch this?

To be honest I didn't, but I read your posts in his voice! Posted Image Glad you understand the reference!

Try to keep the pictures down though, or we'll be banned. I heard Blur was banned for a day. Anyone know anything about that?


He what????????:blink:


HaHaHa!:lol:

edit top!

Am I that bad.:crying:

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 janvier 2013 - 12:23 .


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Oh Banshee it's because Blurr was caught in a "This Thread Proves IT."

Everyone found in their was banned.