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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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paxxton wrote...

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tributes... oh dear god it was there all along.... the reapers are tributes.. living tributes..thats the harvest.  gathering together the dominant race inside a reaper shell......a living tribute.

So Leviathans sacrificed themselves as a tribute to themselves?


No, they were sacrificed.

Some ancient religions did have a twisted form of God-sacrifice where their king was seen as an avatar of their God, and the tribe would sacrifice their king to honour him.

It makes some sort of sense that Reapers wouldn't consider a 'lesser species' worthy of giving tribute.  Thus some of the petty excuses Harbinger gave for not wanting to harvest some species makes sense.

Not to mention "We are your salvation through destruction."  They see it as an honour to be sacrificed, and you ascend to Godhood to take your place among the Heavenly Host.

This line of thinking has a very extreme religious slant to it.  Which is underlaying through much of Mass Effect already, so its not a big stretch.  Only Gods are created.

...crazy thoughts, but they make a twisted insane sense.

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dorktainian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

tributes... oh dear god it was there all along.... the reapers are tributes.. living tributes..thats the harvest.  gathering together the dominant race inside a reaper shell......a living tribute.

So Leviathans sacrificed themselves as a tribute to themselves?

did they?  did they die out?  really?  reaper shells...lots of reaper shells..  indoctrinating....just like squidhead.

yay.... top.... again.    suck on that squidface.   Posted Image

So it might have been more of a controlled transcendence into a higher state of being. But not all Leviathans wanted that to happen and hence the Remainders were cast out and driven into hiding, forever leaving in a constant state of terror.

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www.youtube.com/watch

sounds very mass effect to me...  somethings coming.

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paxxton wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

tributes... oh dear god it was there all along.... the reapers are tributes.. living tributes..thats the harvest.  gathering together the dominant race inside a reaper shell......a living tribute.

So Leviathans sacrificed themselves as a tribute to themselves?

did they?  did they die out?  really?  reaper shells...lots of reaper shells..  indoctrinating....just like squidhead.

yay.... top.... again.    suck on that squidface.   Posted Image

So it might have been more of a controlled transcendence into a higher state of being. But not all Leviathans wanted that to happen and hence the Remainders were cast out and driven into hiding, forever leaving in a constant state of terror.



yep..  they (including harbinger) augmented themselves into reaper forms. 

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dorktainian wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

sounds very mass effect to me...  somethings coming.

Similar to the EC version of Control ending. Wow.

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Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

tributes... oh dear god it was there all along.... the reapers are tributes.. living tributes..thats the harvest.  gathering together the dominant race inside a reaper shell......a living tribute.

So Leviathans sacrificed themselves as a tribute to themselves?


No, they were sacrificed.

Some ancient religions did have a twisted form of God-sacrifice where their king was seen as an avatar of their God, and the tribe would sacrifice their king to honour him.

It makes some sort of sense that Reapers wouldn't consider a 'lesser species' worthy of giving tribute.  Thus some of the petty excuses Harbinger gave for not wanting to harvest some species makes sense.

Not to mention "We are your salvation through destruction."  They see it as an honour to be sacrificed, and you ascend to Godhood to take your place among the Heavenly Host.

This line of thinking has a very extreme religious slant to it.  Which is underlaying through much of Mass Effect already, so its not a big stretch.  Only Gods are created.

...crazy thoughts, but they make a twisted insane sense.

Well, yeah, warped indeed.

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Well, yeah, warped indeed.


Of course its all speculation.  But it makes a damned more sense the 'preserving all life' excuse.

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Well, yeah, warped indeed.


Of course its all speculation.  But it makes a damned more sense the 'preserving all life' excuse.

Oh, it does make sense that Reapers' thinking is based on Leviathans'.

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Andromidius wrote...

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Well, yeah, warped indeed.


Of course its all speculation.  But it makes a damned more sense the 'preserving all life' excuse.


It's kind of the same thing though, they think they're preserving life, it all makes sense to them.

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they are preserving living tributes.....

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Being tired and doped up on cold medicine has its advantages.

Though my nose is really sore and I wish I could lay down without choking.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Well, yeah, warped indeed.


Of course its all speculation.  But it makes a damned more sense the 'preserving all life' excuse.


It's kind of the same thing though, they think they're preserving life, it all makes sense to them.


Though what the 'Catalyst' says is still a lie - what it means is 'preserve all worthy life'.

Hense it'll never end, because there will always be more potential worthy life to uplift.

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Andromidius wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

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Well, yeah, warped indeed.


Of course its all speculation. But it makes a damned more sense the 'preserving all life' excuse.


It's kind of the same thing though, they think they're preserving life, it all makes sense to them.


Though what the 'Catalyst' says is still a lie - what it means is 'preserve all worthy life'.

Hense it'll never end, because there will always be more potential worthy life to uplift.


Yes, the Catalyst is certainly lying, or at least reaaaally twisting the truth. And yeah, it'll never end, so all the more reason to kill them all now. Sythesis is even more gross now Posted Image


Andromidius wrote...

Being tired and doped up on cold medicine has its advantages.

Though my nose is really sore and I wish I could lay down without choking.


That's terrible Posted Image

Speaking of tired, I should try to get some sleep tonight, see you all later! Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 01 janvier 2013 - 01:43 .


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the other side of this is the reapers could ALL be squidhead in hiding, controlling reaper shells. thats why they arnt bothered about losing a few.....they are just shells.... the real bad guys are hidden.

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dorktainian wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

sounds very mass effect to me...  somethings coming.


Maybe...but this particular piece Sam Hulick tweeted to be non-ME related.

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yeah he did........

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yeah he did........

...and I believe him. He doesn't seem like the lyingdeceptive type. Besides, I don't need a track from him to be sure that that ME3 DLC, with him working on it, will be special.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 01 janvier 2013 - 02:28 .


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ah yes.. true. but the title of the track is amazingly coincidental. still squidheads gathering tributes from living creatures sounds utterly feasible.

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Happy new year from the Netherlands! =)

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I have to tell you a secret. I absolutely love that part of ME3 in the Catalyst's Chamber. The music, the colors, the surroundings, the dialogue. It's like a dream. You are suspended in space, suspended in time.

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Pascal219 wrote...

Happy new year from the Netherlands! =)

Thx! And happy New Year to you.

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paxxton wrote...

I have to tell you a secret. I absolutely love that part of ME3 in the Catalyst's Chamber. The music, the colors, the surroundings, the dialogue. It's like a dream. You are suspended in space, suspended in time.


It is a dream ;)

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I'm listening to the Catalyst's theme in a loop. So good!

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Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I have to tell you a secret. I absolutely love that part of ME3 in the Catalyst's Chamber. The music, the colors, the surroundings, the dialogue. It's like a dream. You are suspended in space, suspended in time.


It is a dream ;)

It is and it feels great. I'm freeeeeee....... LOL.

Modifié par paxxton, 01 janvier 2013 - 02:51 .


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Anyone there?

Modifié par paxxton, 01 janvier 2013 - 02:57 .