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[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

"Why the Catalyst's Logic is Right II - UPDATED with LEVIATHAN DLC"

Well I guess He fully believes the Catalyst now.

Catalyst made sense without any DLC, now it's messed up as the new lines don't fit. Esp the EC <-> Leviathan lines.

The Catalyst never made sense he still uses the same arguments in the DLC's with "slightly" more explanation.

Not quite, the explanation which came with the EC and later Leviathan is flawed. His argument before was basically "it can happen and therefor with unlimited time it will happen", which is a fact.

He basically always did that.

@Rif Wtf man? Why are you hating Estebanus? Not cool.

HE cares, he just a Badger. They don't show their emotions at all. Just look at Spot. When he "left" he showed everyone that he cares about Spot. Which means he cares about all.

[MegumiAzusa]

401 Kill wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
"Why the Catalyst's Logic is Right II - UPDATED with LEVIATHAN DLC"
Well I guess He fully believes the Catalyst now.

Catalyst made sense without any DLC, now it's messed up as the new lines don't fit. Esp the EC <-> Leviathan lines.

The Catalyst never made sense he still uses the same arguments in the DLC's with "slightly" more explanation.

Not quite, the explanation which came with the EC and later Leviathan is flawed. His argument before was basically "it can happen and therefor with unlimited time it will happen", which is a fact.

You can make peace with the Geth and Quarians disproving this, and I still believe that the real reason the Reapers harvest in the first place is so they can become stronger and create more Reapers. I do not trust this "Catalyst" you do, so I think we are at a stalemate.

Geth/Quarian peace doesn't prove anything because it can for whatever reason just start again at some point, or by another race.

[Red Panda]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The guy's got an "I support the catalyst" banner.  Saying he's beyond hope is like saying being on fire is unpleasant.

I dont get how you could support the catalyst, even if you like the endings. He's a horrible character, and is directly responsible  for trillions of trillions of deaths.

Supporting the Catalyst is supporting genocide and mass murder. Might as well have a Hitler or Stalin banner.

Maybe life is a renewable resource to some?

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I got it.  Can you you 2 please stop fighting? You already made Erika leave, probably for good. Granted it wasn't all you, we should all just stop arguing. Debating, sure. But not arguing.

Is that estebanusister?

Why did she leave? Last I saw she was acting normally, then she just stopped posting.

Yes, and she was annoyed at all the people being angry at her for trying to make sure our arguments could stand offensive action. Even though a lot of us like her, she left.

I thought she had thicker skin than that. How disappointing.

She felt she couldn't get anywhere if people constantly jabbed at her, so there was no point. She didn't leave becaues she was offended. I mean, she's been shot before, I doubt petty insults will get to her.

[byne]

OperatingWookie wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The guy's got an "I support the catalyst" banner.  Saying he's beyond hope is like saying being on fire is unpleasant.

I dont get how you could support the catalyst, even if you like the endings. He's a horrible character, and is directly responsible  for trillions of trillions of deaths.

Supporting the Catalyst is supporting genocide and mass murder. Might as well have a Hitler or Stalin banner.

Maybe life is a renewable resource to some?

Looking at life as a resource is pretty much everything thats wrong about the catalyst.

[DoomsdayDevice]

*reads thread*

*dies*

[CoolioThane]

****ing hell. How was one complaint a constant jab?

[Steelcan]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Catalyst made sense without any DLC, now it's messed up as the new lines don't fit. Esp the EC <-> Leviathan lines.

The Catalyst never made sense he still uses the same arguments in the DLC's with "slightly" more explanation.

Not quite, the explanation which came with the EC and later Leviathan is flawed. His argument before was basically "it can happen and therefor with unlimited time it will happen", which is a fact.

You can make peace with the Geth and Quarians disproving this, and I still believe that the real reason the Reapers harvest in the first place is so they can become stronger and create more Reapers. I do not trust this "Catalyst" you do, so I think we are at a stalemate.

Geth/Quarian peace doesn't prove anything because it can for whatever reason just start again at some point, or by another race.

. If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.

[Rifneno]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

*reads thread*

*dies*

Legion, come help me husk up this corpse!

[Red Panda]

byne wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The guy's got an "I support the catalyst" banner.  Saying he's beyond hope is like saying being on fire is unpleasant.

I dont get how you could support the catalyst, even if you like the endings. He's a horrible character, and is directly responsible  for trillions of trillions of deaths.

Supporting the Catalyst is supporting genocide and mass murder. Might as well have a Hitler or Stalin banner.

Maybe life is a renewable resource to some?

Looking at life as a resource is pretty much everything thats wrong about the catalyst.

I'm just saying that it's plausible that some may agree with that view, and by extension, the catalyst.

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, and she was annoyed at all the people being angry at her for trying to make sure our arguments could stand offensive action. Even though a lot of us like her, she left.

I thought she had thicker skin than that. How disappointing.

She felt she couldn't get anywhere if people constantly jabbed at her, so there was no point. She didn't leave becaues she was offended. I mean, she's been shot before, I doubt petty insults will get to her.

If what Rif says is true and she was just randomly trying to break apart every speculation anyone posted, of course people are going to get annoyed. She had to have seen that coming.

[byne]

OperatingWookie wrote...

byne wrote...

Looking at life as a resource is pretty much everything thats wrong about the catalyst.

I'm just saying that it's plausible that some may agree with that view, and by extension, the catalyst.

And I'm just saying anyone who agrees with that kind of twisted thinking is wrong.

[401 Kill]

Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.

The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.

[Steelcan]

401 Kill wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.

The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.

Thats the point.  Peace proves nothing.  It is a delaying action at best.  Destroying the geth proves that organics are not doomed to be destroyed by synthetics, and his whole argument blows up in his face.

[masster blaster]

You wanna know what happened? ITers are what happened. I've ****ing had enough of them. This is the last time I will endure their insults and their attacks on my friends.

I will not stand idly by any further. No, I've had enough now. Those ****s saying I'm not real? Calling me a negative ass? NO. I won't accept this **** any further.
The entire reason why I visited BSN in the first place is because I thought you guys would be glad to see me. Instead, I get a middle finger each time I don't share the same views as you guys do. Well, I've had enough now. I can think of better things to do in my spare time than to argue with a group of zealots that have been indoctrinated by their own theory.

That is why I've had enough, ok? I don't count you among those ****s who in fact do that. You're one of the rare nice and understanding people, one of them that tend to be respectful to others. Along with Lex0r and banshee, you're one of the uys I quite like.

Here guys. This is Estesister pm she sent me. i hopethe ones that made her left are happy. I....I am just...going to go. To many have left, and now i.....goodbye.

Modifié par masster blaster, 02 janvier 2013 - 12:55 .

[byne]

401 Kill wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.

The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.

But if the Reapers hadnt stepped in and upgraded the geth, the quarians would have won without Shepard ever getting involved. The catalyst is clearly wrong.

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

byne wrote...

Looking at life as a resource is pretty much everything thats wrong about the catalyst.

I'm just saying that it's plausible that some may agree with that view, and by extension, the catalyst.

And I'm just saying anyone who agrees with that kind of twisted thinking is wrong.

You are applying human values here. The Guardian certainly is not. It is an AI and was created by aliens.

[Hrothdane]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, and she was annoyed at all the people being angry at her for trying to make sure our arguments could stand offensive action. Even though a lot of us like her, she left.

I thought she had thicker skin than that. How disappointing.

She felt she couldn't get anywhere if people constantly jabbed at her, so there was no point. She didn't leave becaues she was offended. I mean, she's been shot before, I doubt petty insults will get to her.

If what Rif says is true and she was just randomly trying to break apart every speculation anyone posted, of course people are going to get annoyed. She had to have seen that coming.

Exactly. Brainstorming doesn't work if every idea is immediately shot down without giving it proper consideration first. Besides, very few ideas can hold up to criticism the second they are initially formed. It's like an adult picking a fight with a baby.

[Red Panda]

byne wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

byne wrote...

Looking at life as a resource is pretty much everything thats wrong about the catalyst.

I'm just saying that it's plausible that some may agree with that view, and by extension, the catalyst.

And I'm just saying anyone who agrees with that kind of twisted thinking is wrong.

Morality is relative. What use is all that life to someone if it never helps them?

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.

The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.

Yeah, but it proves him wrong either way. If the geth are destroyed, then the synthetics didn't destroy their creators.

[MegumiAzusa]

Steelcan wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.

The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.

Thats the point.  Peace proves nothing.  It is a delaying action at best.  Destroying the geth proves that organics are not doomed to be destroyed by synthetics, and his whole argument blows up in his face.

I would call "lucky day" as the Geth blowing the Quarians to hell says exactly the opposite. Everlasting peace is the only solution, but that cannot be ensured.

[Rifneno]

masster blaster wrote...

You wanna know what happened? ITers are what happened. I've ****ing had enough of them. This is the last time I will endure their insults and their attacks on my friends.

I will not stand idly by any further. No, I've had enough now. Those ****s saying I'm not real? Calling me a negative ass? NO. I won't accept this **** any further.
The entire reason why I visited BSN in the first place is because I thought you guys would be glad to see me. Instead, I get a middle finger each time I don't share the same views as you guys do. Well, I've had enough now. I can think of better things to do in my spare time than to argue with a group of zealots that have been indoctrinated by their own theory.

That is why I've had enough, ok? I don't count you among those ****s who in fact do that. You're one of the rare nice and understanding people, one of them that tend to be respectful to others. Along with Lex0r and banshee, you're one of the uys I quite like.

Here guys. This is Estesister pm she sent me. i hopethe ones that made her left are happy. I....I am just...going to go. To many have left, and now i.....goodbye.

LOL @ esta

Modifié par Rifneno, 02 janvier 2013 - 12:59 .

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

If what Rif says is true and she was just randomly trying to break apart every speculation anyone posted, of course people are going to get annoyed. She had to have seen that coming.

As with most things in life, I find the truth lies somewhere in between what Rif and Erika thought. Which is actually the cause of the problem, really.

[401 Kill]

Oh, I understand what you to are talking about now, I was really confused for a second.
Edit: Top twice in a row, woohoo!

Modifié par 401 Kill, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:01 .

[CoolioThane]

All I can say at that pm is lol