Rifneno wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
*pm contents*
Here guys. This is Estesister pm she sent me. i hopethe ones that made her left are happy. I....I am just...going to go. To many have left, and now i.....goodbye.
LOL.
Modifié par OperatingWookie, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:03 .
Rifneno wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
You wanna know what happened? ITers are what happened. I've ****ing had enough of them. This is the last time I will endure their insults and their attacks on my friends.
I will not stand idly by any further. No, I've had enough now. Those ****s saying I'm not real? Calling me a negative ass? NO. I won't accept this **** any further.
The entire reason why I visited BSN in the first place is because I thought you guys would be glad to see me. Instead, I get a middle finger each time I don't share the same views as you guys do. Well, I've had enough now. I can think of better things to do in my spare time than to argue with a group of zealots that have been indoctrinated by their own theory.
That is why I've had enough, ok? I don't count you among those ****s who in fact do that. You're one of the rare nice and understanding people, one of them that tend to be respectful to others. Along with Lex0r and banshee, you're one of the uys I quite like.
Here guys. This is Estesister pm she sent me. i hopethe ones that made her left are happy. I....I am just...going to go. To many have left, and now i.....goodbye.
LOL @ esta
. Nevertheless the option exists. Anyone who kills the quarians has the option to kill the geth. The mere existence of the option is enough to disprove him. If the Catalyst was right, the quarians would die no matter what Shepard choosesMegumiAzusa wrote...
I would call "lucky day" as the Geth blowing the Quarians to hell says exactly the opposite. Everlasting peace is the only solution, but that cannot be ensured.Steelcan wrote...
Thats the point. Peace proves nothing. It is a delaying action at best. Destroying the geth proves that organics are not doomed to be destroyed by synthetics, and his whole argument blows up in his face.401 Kill wrote...
The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.
You are going to post her PMs here for all to see? Douchebag.masster blaster wrote...
You wanna know what happened? ITers are what happened. I've ****ing had enough of them. This is the last time I will endure their insults and their attacks on my friends.
I will not stand idly by any further. No, I've had enough now. Those ****s saying I'm not real? Calling me a negative ass? NO. I won't accept this **** any further.
The entire reason why I visited BSN in the first place is because I thought you guys would be glad to see me. Instead, I get a middle finger each time I don't share the same views as you guys do. Well, I've had enough now. I can think of better things to do in my spare time than to argue with a group of zealots that have been indoctrinated by their own theory.
That is why I've had enough, ok? I don't count you among those ****s who in fact do that. You're one of the rare nice and understanding people, one of them that tend to be respectful to others. Along with Lex0r and banshee, you're one of the uys I quite like.
Here guys. This is Estesister pm she sent me. i hopethe ones that made her left are happy. I....I am just...going to go. To many have left, and now i.....goodbye.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
I had an epiphany. What if we've been looking at this wrong the whole time? What if people have been putting too much weight on exactly what this "Intelligence" is?dorktainian wrote...
To solve this problem, we created an intelligence with the mandate to preserve life at any cost. As the intelligence evolved, it studied the development of civilizations. Its understanding grew until it found a solution. In that instant, it betrayed us. It chose our kind as the first harvest. From our essence, the first Reaper was created. You call it Harbinger.
I direct you to the Mass Effect 2: The Story So Far trailer. It's awesome in and of itself, with TIM narrating it. But one very specific section is relevant to my idea.
"50000 years ago, an ancient race - the Protheans - was destroyed by a mysterious artificial intelligence known as : The Reapers."
What if the "Intelligence" is the reapers? In that trailer, TIM referred to the reapers an a single intelligence, somewhat like the geth.
This could mean any number of things. It doesn't even mean there is an entity like the Guardian. Or maybe Harbinger is the reapers? As in, the rest of them are slaves, and he is the only truly independent one? Or perhaps in the sense that they are all part of him. Maybe killing him would defeat the rest? Or maybe I'm crazy? What do you think?
umadcommander wrote...
she left, really? we'll need a friggin memorial wall at this rate
No. They got lucky. There is no certainty that not another synthetic race is created that wins at some point.byne wrote...
401 Kill wrote...
The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.
But if the Reapers hadnt stepped in and upgraded the geth, the quarians would have won without Shepard ever getting involved. The catalyst is clearly wrong.
No they did not get lucky, they simply were too powerful for the geth. This blows the Catalyst's little thesis to hell, so he sends his thralls to try and turn it around.MegumiAzusa wrote...
No. They got lucky. There is no certainty that not another synthetic race is created that wins at some point.byne wrote...
401 Kill wrote...
The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.
But if the Reapers hadnt stepped in and upgraded the geth, the quarians would have won without Shepard ever getting involved. The catalyst is clearly wrong.
Modifié par Steelcan, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:08 .
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
Damn, I'm still laughing.umadcommander wrote...
she left, really? we'll need a friggin memorial wall at this rate
Epic idea. Let's start listing the thread's casualties since Christmas.
masster blaster wrote...
You wanna know what happened? ITers are what happened. I've ****ing had enough of them. This is the last time I will endure their insults and their attacks on my friends.
I can think of better things to do in my spare time than to argue with a group of zealots that have been indoctrinated by their own theory.
Here guys. This is Estesister pm she sent me. i hopethe ones that made her left are happy. I....I am just...going to go. To many have left, and now i.....goodbye.
Thank you, and good too see you again.mrs.N7 wrote...
Before ME3 was released, I 'knew' the ending would have been a confrontation with our beloved Harby, and that we would have ended the other reapers by killing him, like lights going out without electricity.
In IT, turns out that this is what happens through a final battle with Harby, that happens in the mind and is fought with our resolve. Being that ( to me) the crucible will do nothing and was a clever reaper deception, maybe by choosing destroy we deny Harby the full control of Shepard and instead we destroy what he stands for, and his mind, thus turning off the other reapers (which is what the red wave does, anyway)
In the end, really good post as always, Banshee, and really thought-provoking
Unfortunately, some people seem to have left, perhaps for good, and there is needless insulting from everyone going around now. So I say STOP FIGHTING. The fight is over. You already had them leave, you don't need to desecrate the bodies by insulting them when they are not even here to defend themselves. So I will leave now too (to eat dinner ) and I hope you all stop this madness. I know we don't have much to discuss right now, but let's keep it together and get along.
Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:10 .
Rifneno wrote...
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
Damn, I'm still laughing.umadcommander wrote...
she left, really? we'll need a friggin memorial wall at this rate
Epic idea. Let's start listing the thread's casualties since Christmas.
inorite. So much for words not doing what bullets couldn't.
Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:10 .
Steelcan wrote...
No they did not get lucky, they simply were too powerful for the geth. This blows the Catalyst's little thesis to hell, so he sends his thrills to try and turn it around.
umadcommander wrote...
this thread is disintegrating, please dont let it
byne wrote...
Now Megumi has a banner supporting control+synthesis featuring Seival's face? Dear god.
Nope. It is basing the "idea" on infinite time, and logic dictates if infinite time is available it will happen. There is peace now, but organics and synthetics are too different to ever exclude the possibility of a disagreement which escalates into the destruction of one of the participants.Steelcan wrote...
. Nevertheless the option exists. Anyone who kills the quarians has the option to kill the geth. The mere existence of the option is enough to disprove him. If the Catalyst was right, the quarians would die no matter what Shepard choosesMegumiAzusa wrote...
I would call "lucky day" as the Geth blowing the Quarians to hell says exactly the opposite. Everlasting peace is the only solution, but that cannot be ensured.Steelcan wrote...
Thats the point. Peace proves nothing. It is a delaying action at best. Destroying the geth proves that organics are not doomed to be destroyed by synthetics, and his whole argument blows up in his face.401 Kill wrote...
The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.
destroy one and one hundred will replace it:alien:OperatingWookie wrote...
umadcommander wrote...
this thread is disintegrating, please dont let it
There will be another. It is as inevitable as the harvest.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope. It is basing the "idea" on infinite time, and logic dictates if infinite time is available it will happen. There is peace now, but organics and synthetics are too different to ever exclude the possibility of a disagreement which escalates into the destruction of one of the participants.Steelcan wrote...
. Nevertheless the option exists. Anyone who kills the quarians has the option to kill the geth. The mere existence of the option is enough to disprove him. If the Catalyst was right, the quarians would die no matter what Shepard choosesMegumiAzusa wrote...
I would call "lucky day" as the Geth blowing the Quarians to hell says exactly the opposite. Everlasting peace is the only solution, but that cannot be ensured.Steelcan wrote...
Thats the point. Peace proves nothing. It is a delaying action at best. Destroying the geth proves that organics are not doomed to be destroyed by synthetics, and his whole argument blows up in his face.401 Kill wrote...
The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.
Modifié par byne, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:15 .
CoolioThane wrote...
At least she's come out as the troll she is
And the Catalyst bases hs entire premise that only organics will be destroyed. On Rannoch it becomes evident that this is not the case. The Catalyst is wrong, sorry.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope. It is basing the "idea" on infinite time, and logic dictates if infinite time is available it will happen. There is peace now, but organics and synthetics are too different to ever exclude the possibility of a disagreement which escalates into the destruction of one of the participants.Steelcan wrote.... Nevertheless the option exists. Anyone who kills the quarians has the option to kill the geth. The mere existence of the option is enough to disprove him. If the Catalyst was right, the quarians would die no matter what Shepard chooses
:D:D
Modifié par 401 Kill, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:17 .
Let's say you roll a 100 sided dice once and roll a 100. Would you expect any other roll to be a 100 now because in your sample size of 1 you got 100% 100 and 0% 1-99?Steelcan wrote...
No they did not get lucky, they simply were too powerful for the geth. This blows the Catalyst's little thesis to hell, so he sends his thralls to try and turn it around.MegumiAzusa wrote...
No. They got lucky. There is no certainty that not another synthetic race is created that wins at some point.byne wrote...
401 Kill wrote...
The Quarians don't destroy the Geth if you make peace. They end their fighting and become allies.Steelcan wrote...
If your poking holes in the Catalyst's logic, peace is irrelevant, the Quarinas destroying the geth is what proves him wrong.
But if the Reapers hadnt stepped in and upgraded the geth, the quarians would have won without Shepard ever getting involved. The catalyst is clearly wrong.
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