MegumiAzusa wrote...
In 1 of 3 cases.Steelcan wrote...
His premise is wrong. It was disproven when the geth burned over RannochMegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, the premise is that eventually synthetics will destroy all organics. It doesn't have to happen now or in a billion years.
Then in 1 of 3 cases they make peace, for now.
Then in 1 of 3 cases Quarians burn.
The premise is not wrong at all.
CoolioThane wrote...
No, masster. It's not your fault at all. You did a fair thing. That message was pretty pathetic anyway, don't beat yourself up.
You're one of the people I consider "awesome".masster blaster wrote...
Look guys I didn't mean to post that pm. It wasn't right for me to do that, so don't hate Estebanus sister. You should be all pissed of at me. i have caused everyone to hurt.
i have drove people away from the IT thread. i have caused the IT thread to be attacked by trolls. I am the trouble maker on here. Nobody else is. It has always been me. I am a curse, and the only way to break it is if I leave.
MY stupidity has caused so much hate, and I should leave. I caused Estebanus sister, and her brother too much hurt, and I don't want to do it to anyone else.
youve been here longer than most, it would be rather strange without you so do me a favour and stay pretty please:innocent:masster blaster wrote...
Look guys I didn't mean to post that pm. It wasn't right for me to do that, so don't hate Estebanus sister. You should be all pissed of at me. i have caused everyone to hurt.
i have drove people away from the IT thread. i have caused the IT thread to be attacked by trolls. I am the trouble maker on here. Nobody else is. It has always been me. I am a curse, and the only way to break it is if I leave.
MY stupidity has caused so much hate, and I should leave. I caused Estebanus sister, and her brother too much hurt, and I don't want to do it to anyone else.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
In 1 of 3 cases.Steelcan wrote...
His premise is wrong. It was disproven when the geth burned over RannochMegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, the premise is that eventually synthetics will destroy all organics. It doesn't have to happen now or in a billion years.
Then in 1 of 3 cases they make peace, for now.
Then in 1 of 3 cases Quarians burn.
The premise is not wrong at all.
byne wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
In 1 of 3 cases.Steelcan wrote...
His premise is wrong. It was disproven when the geth burned over RannochMegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, the premise is that eventually synthetics will destroy all organics. It doesn't have to happen now or in a billion years.
Then in 1 of 3 cases they make peace, for now.
Then in 1 of 3 cases Quarians burn.
The premise is not wrong at all.
Pro-tip: if the Reapers hadnt intervened, the quarians would have wiped the geth out. You cant use reaper intervention in a war against organics as proof that synthetics will always win.
Thats like seeing a dog chasing cat, seeing the cat nearly get away, and then grabbing the cat up and throwing it to the dog, then claiming it proves that dogs will always catch cats when they chase them. It only ended up that way because you stepped in.
Nope, it only showed the Geth weren't the ones. It doesn't mean that there will never be a race of synthetics that would eat the Geth for breakfast.Steelcan wrote...
Again, if its even possible for synthetics to be destroyed by organics than his argument is void.MegumiAzusa wrote...
In 1 of 3 cases.Steelcan wrote...
His premise is wrong. It was disproven when the geth burned over RannochMegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, the premise is that eventually synthetics will destroy all organics. It doesn't have to happen now or in a billion years.
Then in 1 of 3 cases they make peace, for now.
Then in 1 of 3 cases Quarians burn.
The premise is not wrong at all.
That is entirely irrelevant. The Catalyst's assertion that organics WILL INEVITABLY be killed by synthetics is proven wrong.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, it only showed the Geth weren't the ones. It doesn't mean that there will never be a race of synthetics that would eat the Geth for breakfast.
Nope. You cannot disprove for example "I will roll a 1 with this dice." Even if the first roll isn't a 1, I just roll again and again.Hrothdane wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
In 1 of 3 cases.Steelcan wrote...
His premise is wrong. It was disproven when the geth burned over RannochMegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, the premise is that eventually synthetics will destroy all organics. It doesn't have to happen now or in a billion years.
Then in 1 of 3 cases they make peace, for now.
Then in 1 of 3 cases Quarians burn.
The premise is not wrong at all.
In deductive reasoning, one counter-example is all you need to disprove a point.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
You should have noticed I never called the Guardian "Catalyst".
Steelcan wrote...
That is entirely irrelevant. The Catalyst's assertion that organics WILL INEVITABLY be killed by synthetics is proven wrong.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, it only showed the Geth weren't the ones. It doesn't mean that there will never be a race of synthetics that would eat the Geth for breakfast.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope. You cannot disprove for example "I will roll a 1 with this dice." Even if the first roll isn't a 1, I just roll again and again.Hrothdane wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
In 1 of 3 cases.Steelcan wrote...
His premise is wrong. It was disproven when the geth burned over RannochMegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, the premise is that eventually synthetics will destroy all organics. It doesn't have to happen now or in a billion years.
Then in 1 of 3 cases they make peace, for now.
Then in 1 of 3 cases Quarians burn.
The premise is not wrong at all.
In deductive reasoning, one counter-example is all you need to disprove a point.
The Guardians reasoning is exactly that.
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope. You cannot disprove for example "I will roll a 1 with this dice." Even if the first roll isn't a 1, I just roll again and again.Hrothdane wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
In 1 of 3 cases.Steelcan wrote...
His premise is wrong. It was disproven when the geth burned over RannochMegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, the premise is that eventually synthetics will destroy all organics. It doesn't have to happen now or in a billion years.
Then in 1 of 3 cases they make peace, for now.
Then in 1 of 3 cases Quarians burn.
The premise is not wrong at all.
In deductive reasoning, one counter-example is all you need to disprove a point.
The Guardians reasoning is exactly that.
It actually doesn'tCoolioThane wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope. You cannot disprove for example "I will roll a 1 with this dice." Even if the first roll isn't a 1, I just roll again and again.Hrothdane wrote...
In deductive reasoning, one counter-example is all you need to disprove a point.
The Guardians reasoning is exactly that.
But he also says there could never be peace between organic/synthetics despite the fact we could have brokered peace between geth/quarians...
...disproves him.
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
You should have noticed I never called the Guardian "Catalyst".
I'm not sure what you're saying exactly. But I'm pretty sure that is a control support banner.
byne wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope. You cannot disprove for example "I will roll a 1 with this dice." Even if the first roll isn't a 1, I just roll again and again.Hrothdane wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
In 1 of 3 cases.Steelcan wrote...
His premise is wrong. It was disproven when the geth burned over RannochMegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, the premise is that eventually synthetics will destroy all organics. It doesn't have to happen now or in a billion years.
Then in 1 of 3 cases they make peace, for now.
Then in 1 of 3 cases Quarians burn.
The premise is not wrong at all.
In deductive reasoning, one counter-example is all you need to disprove a point.
The Guardians reasoning is exactly that.
Except in this case, for some reason he continually rolls 2-5, gets fed up with rolling, and tosses a loaded dice and magically, via the power of cheating, he gets a 1.
byne wrote...
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
You should have noticed I never called the Guardian "Catalyst".
I'm not sure what you're saying exactly. But I'm pretty sure that is a control support banner.
Since it shows the Shepard catalyst with green eyes, its technically a 'control and synthesis at the same time banner,' because Seival doesnt understand how mutually exclusive things work.
"by synthetics" does not specify when and under which circumstances. Just look at our world, we have a certain stability, but that doesn't mean we never would wipe each other out if certain circumstances are given. If we can't ensure everlasting peace in one species, how do you suggest what will happen with two species which are completely alien to each other. Then you just need a 50/50 chance of one getting the upper hand and you have a 50% probability that synthetics win.Steelcan wrote...
That is entirely irrelevant. The Catalyst's assertion that organics WILL INEVITABLY be killed by synthetics is proven wrong.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, it only showed the Geth weren't the ones. It doesn't mean that there will never be a race of synthetics that would eat the Geth for breakfast.
That isn't the Catalyst's assertion. His assertion is that organics ARE INEVITABLY DOOMED, THEY HAVE ZERO CHANCE WIOUT THE REAPERS. His assertion is wrong as I've showed you.MegumiAzusa wrote...
"by synthetics" does not specify when and under which circumstances. Just look at our world, we have a certain stability, but that doesn't mean we never would wipe each other out if certain circumstances are given. If we can't ensure everlasting peace in one species, how do you suggest what will happen with two species which are completely alien to each other. Then you just need a 50/50 chance of one getting the upper hand and you have a 50% probability that synthetics win.Steelcan wrote...
That is entirely irrelevant. The Catalyst's assertion that organics WILL INEVITABLY be killed by synthetics is proven wrong.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, it only showed the Geth weren't the ones. It doesn't mean that there will never be a race of synthetics that would eat the Geth for breakfast.
Which is completely acknowledged by the Guardian.Rifneno wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
That is entirely irrelevant. The Catalyst's assertion that organics WILL INEVITABLY be killed by synthetics is proven wrong.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, it only showed the Geth weren't the ones. It doesn't mean that there will never be a race of synthetics that would eat the Geth for breakfast.
Even if it were true, the Reapers aren't a solution. They're a delaying tactic. The Milky Way is but one of hundreds of billions of galaxies. If synthetics were to inevitably wipe out organics, synthetics from another galaxy would, sooner or later, invade the Milky Way. The sheer distance between galaxies is a huge issue for organics, but not immortal machines. And who's gonna stop them? The Reapers? The Reapers have hit the pause button on the Milky Way's technological advancement for a billion years. At least. The Reapers would get omniraped. And then so would the Milky Way's organics. There's dozens of ways the catalyst's logic fails harder than the XFL.
Steelcan wrote...
It actually doesn'tCoolioThane wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope. You cannot disprove for example "I will roll a 1 with this dice." Even if the first roll isn't a 1, I just roll again and again.Hrothdane wrote...
In deductive reasoning, one counter-example is all you need to disprove a point.
The Guardians reasoning is exactly that.
But he also says there could never be peace between organic/synthetics despite the fact we could have brokered peace between geth/quarians...
...disproves him.
byne wrote...
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
You should have noticed I never called the Guardian "Catalyst".
I'm not sure what you're saying exactly. But I'm pretty sure that is a control support banner.
Since it shows the Shepard catalyst with green eyes, its technically a 'control and synthesis at the same time banner,' because Seival doesnt understand how mutually exclusive things work.
No, the assertion is never stated as "all synthetics always win". It doesn't specify the synthetics at all.Steelcan wrote...
That isn't the Catalyst's assertion. His assertion is that organics ARE INEVITABLY DOOMED, THEY HAVE ZERO CHANCE WIOUT THE REAPERS. His assertion is wrong as I've showed you.MegumiAzusa wrote...
"by synthetics" does not specify when and under which circumstances. Just look at our world, we have a certain stability, but that doesn't mean we never would wipe each other out if certain circumstances are given. If we can't ensure everlasting peace in one species, how do you suggest what will happen with two species which are completely alien to each other. Then you just need a 50/50 chance of one getting the upper hand and you have a 50% probability that synthetics win.Steelcan wrote...
That is entirely irrelevant. The Catalyst's assertion that organics WILL INEVITABLY be killed by synthetics is proven wrong.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Nope, it only showed the Geth weren't the ones. It doesn't mean that there will never be a race of synthetics that would eat the Geth for breakfast.
Why do you think that?CoolioThane wrote...
I like the explanation you give, really thoughtful.
I know what your explanation will be though, and I disagree with you.
"The Created will always destroy their creators"MegumiAzusa wrote...
No, the assertion is never stated as "all synthetics always win". It doesn't specify the synthetics at all.
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