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[401 Kill]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hey, 401, CT you guys still here? DD you want to join us?

Yes I just got on! We have to hurry though!

[TheConstantOne]

Rifneno wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
It's not her fault. I was stuipd to post them, andn ow almost everyone
hates her. she was angry, and I was trying to get her back, but instead I
**** up. So please giver her a chance. she means well. Don't cast her
aside. I wanted to help her, but I ****** up. Don't write her off
please.

I shouldn't have replied, honestly.  I didn't check how far back that post was made, and I shouldn't have dug it up.

I'll let her off, but I'm still insulted.  But being insulted is part of life.

I wont post her actual PM, but she did send me one saying she didnt actually mean that and just spoke in the heat of the moment, so dont be too  insulted by it. We've all said things we dont mean when we're angry.

Indeed, it's unfortunate, but natural. It seems everyone's had a pretty short fuse lately, so let's try to avoid arguing as much as possible. I for one love everyone here, so please, no more fighting.

Where's lex0r's thresher maw? She is needed

I agree.  We feed the heretics to a thresher maw.

It's better than the Crucible: a Thresher Maw gun

[Steelcan]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

That's why when my Shepard gets out of the rubble, he's going to find some people.  People like Dalatrass Linron.  And the asari who hid that beacon of theirs.  I will need a bigger airlock.

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

For me the worst offender was the TiM conversations

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...

Considering that the turians owe the krogan big, I'd go so far as to say they'd support them in a war against the salarians.

Yeah.  And the Salarian Union is splintering.

Which would be an interesting sub-plot in ME4.  Side either with the Dalatrass or with the STG seperatists.

It's also one of the few things that really set up for future content (that I noticed). I'm actually quite surprised there wasn't a "Kill The Dalatrass" DLC, maybe have her team up with Xen to get rid of them both

Also, Kirrahe as the leader of the STG faction

[byne]

Steelcan wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

That's why when my Shepard gets out of the rubble, he's going to find some people.  People like Dalatrass Linron.  And the asari who hid that beacon of theirs.  I will need a bigger airlock.

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

For me the worst offender was the TiM conversations

Why? Did you want to side with the clearly indoctrinated megalomaniac?

[BleedingUranium]

Steelcan wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

That's why when my Shepard gets out of the rubble, he's going to find some people.  People like Dalatrass Linron.  And the asari who hid that beacon of theirs.  I will need a bigger airlock.

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

For me the worst offender was the TiM conversations

Let me guess, you wanted to support him?

'd by Byne

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 02 janvier 2013 - 02:32 .

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

Never once have the Reapers rebelled against the catalyst.

His own creations  prove his logic ot be flawed.

WRONG!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 02 janvier 2013 - 02:32 .

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

Ditto, and one more: when the salarian councilor calls Shepard after curing the genophage, and implies he'd have Shepard killed if Shepard hadn't saved his life.  Do the words "verbal ****slap" sound about right?

[TheConstantOne]

Dwailing wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I've concluded something. There's a reason I hate Control and Synthesis. They will ultimately lead to stagnation. Without conflict, nothing changes. Remember what the Catalyst says? "But the Reapers will be destroyed?" "Yes, but the peace, won't last." That's not a bad thing. Conflict is not a bad thing. We're in some form of conflict every day of our lives. I don't mean war. War and conflict are two different things. War is bad. Conflict is not. And even war has a place, no matter how horrible it is. Would the world be a better place if the U.S. hadn't gone to war with Germany during WW2? I don't think so. That's ultimately the reason the Catalyst is wrong. He was created to end the conflict between organics and synthetics. That's impossible. There will ALWAYS be conflict, it doesn't matter whether it's between organics and synthetics, or just between organics. And if there WAS a way to end conflict, it wouldn't be right.

I agree with what you're saying but I think that Star Bieber was referring to the *inevitable* demise of organics in a conflict between organics and synthetics. 

Consider, the outcomes of Control and Synthesis and you'll see that peace and lack of conflict isn't eternal there either:

Synthesis: a massive upgrade in tech and synthetic upgrades for synthetics.  It's a new experience certainly but I can't see how a certain level of technology will prevent people from having conflict.  Life is different but the underlying currents stay the same, if you get my meaning.

Control:  I'm sure some will band together to resist the Reaptatorship.  I mean, the galaxy just fought a war to be free from Reapers and now they're being told by the Reapers, "Yeah, we don't want to kill you anymore. As long as you do what we say." ...Yup that will go over well.

So in conclusion, I believe conflict is present in all 3 literal endings...the kid just messed up how it phrased its explanation... the devious little overlord

I agree with what you're saying.  And I would like to add that I don't think organics would be destroyed by synthetics in Destroy.  We're, shall we say, hard to get rid of, especially if Shepard is alive to make sure everything is alright.  And if worst comes to worst, we can always build another Crucible.

There's always some way out.  If some AIs get aggressive we will find a way to deal with them. And apparently, if we can survive long enough we will reach a state of synthesis anyway because it is inevitable, as Star Bieber says.  Which would avert our *inevitable* demise. 

Just another reason we don't need the kid running things.  That's my biggest fear for literal Synthesis...that the Reaper overlord is alive and plotting another galactic experiment...

[Steelcan]

byne wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
That's why when my Shepard gets out of the rubble, he's going to find some people.  People like Dalatrass Linron.  And the asari who hid that beacon of theirs.  I will need a bigger airlock.

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

For me the worst offender was the TiM conversations

Why? Did you want to side with the clearly indoctrinated megalomaniac?

. Yep:D  too bad he was indoctrinated.......<_<

Im not a fan of the Alliance, and I think his ideas on Control were sound.

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hey, 401, CT you guys still here? DD you want to join us?

Yes I just got on! We have to hurry though!

On it!

[Rifneno]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Never once have the Reapers rebelled against the catalyst.

His own creations  prove his logic ot be flawed.

WRONG!

That was the destroyer's gift to Shepard.  Remember that cut "we were all Shepards once" line?  He just knew that one day soon, Shepard would look back upon that memory and smile.

[Andromidius]

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Easier then deciding whether or not to cure the genophage when Wrex and Eve are alive.

Well there are some ways of 'evening it up.  Siding with the Dalatrass results in a swift resolution to the conflict, with minimal casualities (since STG are massively outnumbered).  Siding with the STG results in a long draw out war that reduces the Union's overall strength.

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Never once have the Reapers rebelled against the catalyst.

His own creations  prove his logic ot be flawed.

WRONG!

LOL

[TheConstantOne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Never once have the Reapers rebelled against the catalyst.

His own creations  prove his logic ot be flawed.

WRONG!

AHAHAHA. Excellent Banshee! Just excellent

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

Ditto, and one more: when the salarian councilor calls Shepard after curing the genophage, and implies he'd have Shepard killed if Shepard hadn't saved his life.  Do the words "verbal ****slap" sound about right?

Oh right  Damn, they're really setting up future content with the Salarians.

[Steelcan]

I can go into detail, but it would probably be really boring.....

But there's a reason my avatar is
<----

[TheConstantOne]

Steelcan wrote...

byne wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
That's why when my Shepard gets out of the rubble, he's going to find some people.  People like Dalatrass Linron.  And the asari who hid that beacon of theirs.  I will need a bigger airlock.

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

For me the worst offender was the TiM conversations

Why? Did you want to side with the clearly indoctrinated megalomaniac?

. Yep:D  too bad he was indoctrinated.......<_<

Im not a fan of the Alliance, and I think his ideas on Control were sound.

I understand why Bioware went the way it did on this but there was so much potential for Cerberus that was never realized.

Imagine if the indoctrination hadn't been obvious (or there was no indoc at all) and Shepard could choose to ally with Cerberus ideals.  Then come the end of the game...an epic choice between having to fight Anderson or TIM based on which side you endorsed.

Would have been great haha

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

Ditto, and one more: when the salarian councilor calls Shepard after curing the genophage, and implies he'd have Shepard killed if Shepard hadn't saved his life.  Do the words "verbal ****slap" sound about right?

Oh right  Damn, they're really setting up future content with the Salarians.

It's ironic, the salarian was the only one I could stand before ME3 too.

[BleedingUranium]

Steelcan wrote...

I can go into detail, but it would probably be really boring.....

But there's a reason my avatar is
<----

You can't say that and then not tell us

[Andromidius]

Steelcan wrote...

I can go into detail, but it would probably be really boring.....

But there's a reason my avatar is
<----

Because Martin Sheen is amazing?

Seriously, the only good thing about the newest Spiderman movie.  Martin Sheen acting his ass off to try and save that movie.  And they kill him off. 

That's how much I hate that goddamn movie.

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.

Ditto, and one more: when the salarian councilor calls Shepard after curing the genophage, and implies he'd have Shepard killed if Shepard hadn't saved his life.  Do the words "verbal ****slap" sound about right?

Oh right  Damn, they're really setting up future content with the Salarians.

It's ironic, the salarian was the only one I could stand before ME3 too.

And now the Turian is the most friendly and helpful. They pulled a Quarian Admirals reversal with the Council too.

[Steelcan]

TheConstantOne wrote...

I understand why Bioware went the way it did on this but there was so much potential for Cerberus that was never realized.

Imagine if the indoctrination hadn't been obvious (or there was no indoc at all) and Shepard could choose to ally with Cerberus ideals.  Then come the end of the game...an epic choice between having to fight Anderson or TIM based on which side you endorsed.

Would have been great haha

You just summed up what I thought ME3 would be

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

And now the Turian is the most friendly and helpful. They pulled a Quarian Admirals reversal with the Council too.

Yeah, but that one you saw coming.  Knowing what you do from Legion, it's obvious that Koris would be the good guy in 3 and Gerrel would be the villain.  Besides, he's voiced by Simon Templeman.  That alone says it all.

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

And now the Turian is the most friendly and helpful. They pulled a Quarian Admirals reversal with the Council too.

Yeah, but that one you saw coming.  Knowing what you do from Legion, it's obvious that Koris would be the good guy in 3 and Gerrel would be the villain.  Besides, he's voiced by Simon Templeman.  That alone says it all.

It would have been fun if the entire admiralty board was voiced by people who were in DA:O, and not just two of them.

Modifié par byne, 02 janvier 2013 - 02:43 .