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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Humakt83

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Dwailing wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

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How much Jacob sucks.

Now now, you might upset his fan(s) 


Had to fix that.  All two of them. ;)

Edit: Tippity top.


Jacob and his mom? Or wait, was his mom dead? Just Jacob then I guess.

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Humakt83 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

How much Jacob sucks.

Now now, you might upset his fan(s) 


Had to fix that.  All two of them. ;)

Edit: Tippity top.


Jacob and his mom? Or wait, was his mom dead? Just Jacob then I guess.


Steelcan and myself, I'm guessing.

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Shhh, Kasumi might stab you all.

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draconian139 wrote...

Shhh, Kasumi might stab you all.


And the pervert award of ME trilogy goes to: Kasumi. It's not enough she must be obsessed with Kenji's memories but she also must watch Jacob from the shadows?

Modifié par Humakt83, 02 janvier 2013 - 04:36 .


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draconian139 wrote...

Shhh, Kasumi might stab you all.


Why? he´s dead, she got over him and her Twilight complex, of liking body over personality

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Dwailing wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
How much Jacob sucks.

Now now, you might upset his fan(s) 

Had to fix that.  All two of them. ;)
Edit: Tippity top.

Jacob and his mom? Or wait, was his mom dead? Just Jacob then I guess.

Steelcan and myself, I'm guessing.

Hes meh, I never romanced him 

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What in the actual F*CK did I just read for the last 20 pages?

What happened to you guys?

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Steelcan wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
How much Jacob sucks.

Now now, you might upset his fan(s) 

Had to fix that.  All two of them. ;)
Edit: Tippity top.

Jacob and his mom? Or wait, was his mom dead? Just Jacob then I guess.

Steelcan and myself, I'm guessing.

Hes meh, I never romanced him 


And if you did, you don't anymore because he cheats on you.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

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There were only two times I felt my Shepard acted in a way I didn't want him to: Joker's joke after Thessia, but we all know why that was, and not being able to even get mad at Linron, and that's ignoring everything else I'd want done to her.


Ditto, and one more: when the salarian councilor calls Shepard after curing the genophage, and implies he'd have Shepard killed if Shepard hadn't saved his life.  Do the words "verbal ****slap" sound about right?


Oh right Posted Image Damn, they're really setting up future content with the Salarians.

Especially considering the possibility of expanding the mole plot, and the War Room's guard talking about getting revenge for the salarians doing nothing. (Which isn't 100% true.)

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lex0r11 wrote...

What in the actual F*CK did I just read for the last 20 pages?

What happened to you guys?

I know! Lex I think we needed you. This lack of info is having is tear each other apart. I can't think of anyone that I don't like around here, so suck it up and deal with it. For just a bit longer people. We have to get DLC news soon.

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Fur28 wrote...

draconian139 wrote...

Shhh, Kasumi might stab you all.


Why? he´s dead, she got over him and her Twilight complex, of liking body over personality


It depends, her comment about it being a shame that he wasn't with me and implying that that'd be a good enough reason to join up with the Normandy again had me cracking up.

Edit:  It also had me wishing I actually could recruit Jacob to get her on board.  I loved her character's sense of humor and I sort of saw Garrus and her as my Shep's best two friends.

Modifié par draconian139, 02 janvier 2013 - 04:47 .


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Rifneno wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...
Jacob and his mom? Or wait, was his mom dead? Just Jacob then I guess.

Steelcan and myself, I'm guessing.

Hes meh, I never romanced him 


And if you did, you don't anymore because he cheats on you.

Never played FemShep either

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draconian139 wrote...

Like Steelcan after Sanctuary I was left with the impression that control was possible although I felt that it was ambiguous whether it was actually achieved or not. Prior to this mission I HATED Cerberus and TIM, ME2 royally ticked me off in many ways, I would have turned the Normandy over to Ashley and the Alliance on Horizon. I thought that TIM was an utter fool to believe that he could ever control the reapers right up until Sanctuary.

The Reapers attacking their base changed my opinion on the feasibility of control, if it wasn't possible and the Reapers were secure in this knowledge why would they do this? Just leave the foolish humans to their delusions, it only makes things easier for the Reapers. It left me with the impression that either Cerberus succeeded or that they got close enough to give the Reapers a scare.

It left me thinking that it's a ruse. They only sacrificed some ground troops. Husks. Byne already said the reapers would obliterate the facility from orbit if it was actually a threat. I mean, the reapers know exactly what TIM is doing, he's indoctrinated! Something the Child said is actually true. "He could never have taken control because we already controlled him." Control is too vague and ambiguous to trust. The risk it too high, even if indoctrinated agents didn't want to do it.

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^. Again the reapers didnt bomb it because they wanted the information in Sanctuary

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BansheeOwnage wrote...
It left me thinking that it's a ruse. They only sacrificed some ground troops. Husks. Byne already said the reapers would obliterate the facility from orbit if it was actually a threat. I mean, the reapers know exactly what TIM is doing, he's indoctrinated! Something the Child said is actually true. "He could never have taken control because we already controlled him." Control is too vague and ambiguous to trust. The risk it too high, even if indoctrinated agents didn't want to do it.


Not to mention the Reapers only committed a bare minimum of ground troops themselves.  Its a token action to throw people off the scent.

It might also be a form of calculated validation for TIM.  Reinforcing the indoctrination already at work within him by convincing him he's on the right track, and that the Reapers are after him now.  And pushing him even faster into crossing the threshold.

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draconian139 wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

draconian139 wrote...

Shhh, Kasumi might stab you all.


Why? he´s dead, she got over him and her Twilight complex, of liking body over personality


It depends, her comment about it being a shame that he wasn't with me and implying that that'd be a good enough reason to join up with the Normandy again had me cracking up.

Edit:  It also had me wishing I actually could recruit Jacob to get her on board.  I loved her character's sense of humor and I sort of saw Garrus and her as my Shep's best two friends.

I also wished i could´ve recruited her, most of my playthroughts have Jacob dead, just because he´s so blank. 
But well i´ll headcannon Femshep, Liara and Kasumi lived happily(threesoming) ever after;)

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Steelcan wrote...

^. Again the reapers didnt bomb it because they wanted the information in Sanctuary


Why?  The information is worthless to them.  They are already masters of indoctrination and enthrallment.  Its a ruse.

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I don't know why Kasumi was ever a squad member. Her strength is in her stealth. Not needing to fight. Shepard's squad is fighting 25 hours a day.

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Andromidius wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

^. Again the reapers didnt bomb it because they wanted the information in Sanctuary


Why?  The information is worthless to them.  They are already masters of indoctrination and enthrallment.  Its a ruse.

Well if it could overpower their own indoctrination I think they'd want to study it

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I don't know why Kasumi was ever a squad member. Her strength is in her stealth. Not needing to fight. Shepard's squad is fighting 25 hours a day.


Because every party needs a rogue.

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I don't know why Kasumi was ever a squad member. Her strength is in her stealth. Not needing to fight. Shepard's squad is fighting 25 hours a day.

Never got her or Zaeed

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Steelcan wrote...

Well if it could overpower their own indoctrination I think they'd want to study it


/facepalm

Whatever dude.  Whatever.  You carry on.

Because those Reapers that slaughtered all Cerberus personal TOTALLY were overpowered and under Cerberus control, am I right?  I mean TIM's goal is to have his own troops massacred, and his chief researcher killed, isn't it?

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Steelcan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I don't know why Kasumi was ever a squad member. Her strength is in her stealth. Not needing to fight. Shepard's squad is fighting 25 hours a day.

Never got her or Zaeed


You didnt get Zaeed? Did you buy the game used or something?

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Andromidius wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Well if it could overpower their own indoctrination I think they'd want to study it


/facepalm

Whatever dude.  Whatever.  You carry on.

Because those Reapers that slaughtered all Cerberus personal TOTALLY were overpowered and under Cerberus control, am I right?  I mean TIM's goal is to have his own troops massacred, and his chief researcher killed, isn't it?

Already explained that one to

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I don't know why Kasumi was ever a squad member. Her strength is in her stealth. Not needing to fight. Shepard's squad is fighting 25 hours a day.


Because every party needs a rogue.


Fair enough.  But she's not the fighting type of rogue.  Well okay, she is, but only in the gameplay way.  The same way the perfect krogan is knocked out as easily as a salarian scientist in his sunset years.  Lorewise, combat's not her specialty.  Infiltration is.  She's great for stuff like the tech expert role on the Suicide Mission.  But the game doesn't really have call for that type of role much.