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lex0r11 wrote...

Wow, you've done it guys. Rif has completely lost it.

:D


That's... not hard to do, honestly. :P

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Eryri wrote...

byne wrote...

Eryri wrote...

I found Anderson's goodbye, with the combination of the images of Earth and that lovely piece of music playing in the background incredibly moving.


Its too bad they cut the goodbye short. I like the full version much better.


So do I. I can't think why Casey insisted Mac cut it down.

Unless... (engaging tin-foil-hat mode), Casey was already planning some post ending content in which the real Anderson might still be alive, and thought a big, elaborate death scene for fake Anderson would be a waste...?

Remember a lot of stuff was cut from the original ending to make it shorter? I guess this is one of them, and I can only think of one good reason why. The same reason the IT is much more fluid in the original ending, and why I think the EC is non-canon. Because it's way dreamier if it's shorter.

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Eryri wrote...

byne wrote...

Eryri wrote...

I found Anderson's goodbye, with the combination of the images of Earth and that lovely piece of music playing in the background incredibly moving.


Its too bad they cut the goodbye short. I like the full version much better.


So do I. I can't think why Casey insisted Mac cut it down.

Unless... (engaging tin-foil-hat mode), Casey was already planning some post ending content in which the real Anderson might still be alive, and thought a big, elaborate death scene for fake Anderson would be a waste...?


Hm. I think it's okay that Anderson dies at the end of this war.

Let him finally sit down.

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You know, I don't think it's possible to sate all ME fans hunger for knowledge/lore..

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byne wrote...

The only reason i can think of is that Anderson had a wife at one point, and although its never directly stated, the shadow broker dossier on him implies he had kids.


Oh yes I remember. It seems unlikely that Mac would forget that while writing the scene, or that no one would notice the mistake until after the actors recorded the lines. Perhaps they thought it would be too obvious a clue that this wasn't the real Anderson?

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Eryri wrote...

byne wrote...

Eryri wrote...

I found Anderson's goodbye, with the combination of the images of Earth and that lovely piece of music playing in the background incredibly moving.


Its too bad they cut the goodbye short. I like the full version much better.


So do I. I can't think why Casey insisted Mac cut it down.

Unless... (engaging tin-foil-hat mode), Casey was already planning some post ending content in which the real Anderson might still be alive, and thought a big, elaborate death scene for fake Anderson would be a waste...?


Honestly, I dislike the full version since it retcons Anderson's history.  He had a family as evidenced by his exwife and son.

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Eryri wrote...

byne wrote...

The only reason i can think of is that Anderson had a wife at one point, and although its never directly stated, the shadow broker dossier on him implies he had kids.


Oh yes I remember. It seems unlikely that Mac would forget that while writing the scene, or that no one would notice the mistake until after the actors recorded the lines. Perhaps they thought it would be too obvious a clue that this wasn't the real Anderson?


Yeah, thats what I was thinking. From what Shepard knows about Anderson, the full version of the speech is correct, and exactly what an Anderson constructed only from what Shepard knows about him would say.

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lex0r11 wrote...

Hm. I think it's okay that Anderson dies at the end of this war.

Let him finally sit down.


I'll be pissed if they kill him after building up him and Kahlee for 3 books and a game.

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lex0r11 wrote...

Hm. I think it's okay that Anderson dies at the end of this war. 

Let him finally sit down.


I suppose that's the most appropriate arc for his character, but a small, mushy part of me, wants Anderson to officiate at my Shepard's wedding. Space Admirals from the future can do that, right...? ;)

Modifié par Eryri, 02 janvier 2013 - 09:58 .


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byne wrote...

Eryri wrote...

byne wrote...

The only reason i can think of is that Anderson had a wife at one point, and although its never directly stated, the shadow broker dossier on him implies he had kids.


Oh yes I remember. It seems unlikely that Mac would forget that while writing the scene, or that no one would notice the mistake until after the actors recorded the lines. Perhaps they thought it would be too obvious a clue that this wasn't the real Anderson?


Yeah, thats what I was thinking. From what Shepard knows about Anderson, the full version of the speech is correct, and exactly what an Anderson constructed only from what Shepard knows about him would say.

Right. Because it's Anderson-Shep. It's part of what Shep might want. Someone once made a great post about Shepard wanting kids, and the effect that has. Was it Arashi? Crap, it was good!

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Rifneno wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Hm. I think it's okay that Anderson dies at the end of this war.

Let him finally sit down.


I'll be pissed if they kill him after building up him and Kahlee for 3 books and a game.


+1

#77287
lex0r11

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Rifneno wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Hm. I think it's okay that Anderson dies at the end of this war.

Let him finally sit down.


I'll be pissed if they kill him after building up him and Kahlee for 3 books and a game.


Oh, yeah.. that.

Still, it's okay. They must get the bittersweet from somewhere, when your score is too low.

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did anderson survive the initial reaper attack on earth? As i said yesterday (i think) he was right next to shepard when it all went boom. Yet he is seen when shep regains conciousness standing there like nowt had happened. Sheps re-enforced body took a right hit, yet anderson.....not a scratch...seriously?

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Dwailing wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Wow, you've done it guys. Rif has completely lost it.

:D


That's... not hard to do, honestly. :P


Yeah, that's right. I didn't even started telling all my favourite jokes, that cause him to loose it - like the one where TIM is actually a reaper, or that GLYPH is the intelligence created by the leviathans, and that QEC are all tied into reapers as proxy's... ))

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dorktainian wrote...

did anderson survive the initial reaper attack on earth? As i said yesterday (i think) he was right next to shepard when it all went boom. Yet he is seen when shep regains conciousness standing there like nowt had happened. Sheps re-enforced body took a right hit, yet anderson.....not a scratch...seriously?

I think Anderson was scratched and bruised up.

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dorktainian wrote...

did anderson survive the initial reaper attack on earth? As i said yesterday (i think) he was right next to shepard when it all went boom. Yet he is seen when shep regains conciousness standing there like nowt had happened. Sheps re-enforced body took a right hit, yet anderson.....not a scratch...seriously?

His suit is cut up and he has blood on him

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Power Up wrote...

I have always related the "leap of faith" in Synthesis to jumping right on top of a Dragon's Teeth and getting Huskified ...

Behold, I have granted your wish! Posted Image

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 02 janvier 2013 - 10:01 .


#77293
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dorktainian wrote...

did anderson survive the initial reaper attack on earth? As i said yesterday (i think) he was right next to shepard when it all went boom. Yet he is seen when shep regains conciousness standing there like nowt had happened. Sheps re-enforced body took a right hit, yet anderson.....not a scratch...seriously?


To be fair, prior to EC, there's no way Shepard survived Harbinger's beam either.  It cut to white right before impact, but there is NO way that beam didn't char-broil him.

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demersel wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Wow, you've done it guys. Rif has completely lost it.

:D


That's... not hard to do, honestly. :P


Yeah, that's right. I didn't even started telling all my favourite jokes, that cause him to loose it - like the one where TIM is actually a reaper, or that GLYPH is the intelligence created by the leviathans, and that QEC are all tied into reapers as proxy's... ))


*grabs dem by the air and drags him toward the airlock*

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draconian139 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Hm. I think it's okay that Anderson dies at the end of this war.

Let him finally sit down.


I'll be pissed if they kill him after building up him and Kahlee for 3 books and a game.


+1

+2 But like Lex said, in high EMS.

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dorktainian wrote...

did anderson survive the initial reaper attack on earth? As i said yesterday (i think) he was right next to shepard when it all went boom. Yet he is seen when shep regains conciousness standing there like nowt had happened. Sheps re-enforced body took a right hit, yet anderson.....not a scratch...seriously?

Just like the end! Posted Image But he was bruised and stuff.

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Eryri wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Hm. I think it's okay that Anderson dies at the end of this war. 

Let him finally sit down.


I suppose that's the most appropriate arc for his character, but a small, mushy part of me, wants Anderson to officiate at my Shepard's wedding. Space Admirals from the future can do that, right...? ;)

Thats so funny it doesn't sound half bad.:)

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demersel wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Wow, you've done it guys. Rif has completely lost it.

:D


That's... not hard to do, honestly. :P


Yeah, that's right. I didn't even started telling all my favourite jokes, that cause him to loose it - like the one where TIM is actually a reaper, or that GLYPH is the intelligence created by the leviathans, and that QEC are all tied into reapers as proxy's... ))


>I was only acting like an idiot!

Uh huh.

#77299
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Power Up wrote...

I have always related the "leap of faith" in Synthesis to jumping right on top of a Dragon's Teeth and getting Huskified ...

Behold, I have granted your wish! Posted Image

Repost because I forgot the link :P

Great timing, too. :D Twice in a row. Posted Image

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 02 janvier 2013 - 10:03 .


#77300
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It's not Glyph anyway. I keep telling you guys, the shifty looking cow is the intelligence.