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[Samtheman63]

umadcommander wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Mr.Racoon wrote...

Guys, guys, c'mon.

We all know the destroy ending is the best ending, right?

I made points like hundreds of pages ago as to why Refuse is the best ending.
Destroy along with Synthesis and Control are bad endings.

while people may not agree on the best ending i think we can all agree synthesis is by far the worst

Yeah, they're all varying degrees of bad, including destroy. At least literally.

Destroy>Refuse>Control>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Synthesis:whistle:

Not nearly enough >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>'s

[BansheeOwnage]

Steelcan wrote...

What does IT say about Refuse?

A lot of things. It's a wildcard and there are many opinions, but generally you lose due to inaction. The reapers give up on you because you are not as resolved as they thought. They leave you in "limbo". I think perhaps you could win through refuse in IT given you have high EMS and the proper help (mind-affecting help like Liara, Javik, Rachni Queen, even Geth.) I can also see it as "paragon destroy" vs the already present "renegade destroy". Lots of speculation. It's also possible that is was introduced in an unfinished state (Shepard would have done more than stand around) to quell fanrage.

[draconian139]

Steelcan wrote...

What does IT say about Refuse?

What I typically see is that Shepard's choosing to not take an option to destroy the reapers and thus his will isn't strong enough and he never fully breaks out of the indoctrination attempt.

My own view is that this is entirely dependent on the reason that Shepard is choosing refuse instead of destroy.  If its because he's unwilling to make sacrifices in order to destroy the reapers then the above is true.  If its because he's recognizing that the starbrat's lying and not to be trusted therefore he doesn't think that destroy would actually destroy them then he'd be even more likely to successfully break out of indoctrination than if he just went with it.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hey guys, have I missed anything?

[Steelcan]

Thanks, had been curious about that

[Rifneno]

"Synthesis is the perfect eternal peace because everyone understands each other!" Seems legit.

Javik: The Synril claimed to have found the path to eternal peace.
Garrus: What happened?
Javik: The Ditakur preferred war and wiped them out.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

umadcommander wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Mr.Racoon wrote...

Guys, guys, c'mon.

We all know the destroy ending is the best ending, right?

I made points like hundreds of pages ago as to why Refuse is the best ending.
Destroy along with Synthesis and Control are bad endings.

while people may not agree on the best ending i think we can all agree synthesis is by far the worst

Nope, Control is the worst.

[Norlond]

Do you think the Andromeda galaxy has its own Reapers?

[demersel]

 By the way, have you guys noticed? THat is Ilium - the only hub from ME2 that we have not revisited yet. 
http://pbs.twimg.com...A04lw.jpg:large

[demersel]

Rif ,don't go away, my present for you is almost ready. Rendering. ))

[Fur28]

Rifneno wrote...

"Synthesis is the perfect eternal peace because everyone understands each other!" Seems legit.

Javik: The Synril claimed to have found the path to eternal peace.
Garrus: What happened?
Javik: The Ditakur preferred war and wiped them out.

Do you mean you want to get rid of all the synthetysers?
If that´s it, you can have my Sword...or keyboard:?.....or my inflatable omniblade. Your pick

[Fur28]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Mr.Racoon wrote...

Guys, guys, c'mon.

We all know the destroy ending is the best ending, right?

I made points like hundreds of pages ago as to why Refuse is the best ending.
Destroy along with Synthesis and Control are bad endings.

while people may not agree on the best ending i think we can all agree synthesis is by far the worst

Nope, Control is the worst.

Nope, synthesis is.
Control is blue and that makes it 15% more awesome. Thrust me i´m from the internet

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Mr.Racoon wrote...

Guys, guys, c'mon.

We all know the destroy ending is the best ending, right?

I made points like hundreds of pages ago as to why Refuse is the best ending.
Destroy along with Synthesis and Control are bad endings.

while people may not agree on the best ending i think we can all agree synthesis is by far the worst

Nope, Control is the worst.

Nope, synthesis is.
Control is blue and that makes it 15% more awesome. Thrust me i´m from the internet

Optimus Prime, aka Robot Jesus, agrees with me. "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."

[BansheeOwnage]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Mr.Racoon wrote...

Guys, guys, c'mon.

We all know the destroy ending is the best ending, right?

I made points like hundreds of pages ago as to why Refuse is the best ending.
Destroy along with Synthesis and Control are bad endings.

while people may not agree on the best ending i think we can all agree synthesis is by far the worst

Nope, Control is the worst.

I would agree, except for the fact that I can't imagine something worse than synthesis.

LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Optimus Prime, aka Robot Jesus, agrees with me. "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."

Exactly why synthesis is the worst. You don't just take away the freedom of the reapers (and who really cares anyway?). You take it away from every single living thing - sentient or not - in the galaxy.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 janvier 2013 - 12:34 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I would agree, except for the fact that I can't imagine something worse than synthesis.

Oh, I can.

[BleedingUranium]

magnetite wrote...

draconian139 wrote...

I just can't see EA letting them do all this if it was planned from the beginning. I believed that IT was intended and that they'd release content explaining everything up until they released the EC. I still view an indoctrination attempt as the most reasonable interpretation of the ending but I don't think that we'll get DLC pointing out the truth of it. I'd love to be wrong though :-).

EA doesn't force Bioware to do anything though, least according to this.

Thing is though, DLC is a modern thing with games, so not sure how Mass Effect 3 would be able to include the DLC with this being the end of the trilogy without putting it out later on. I think they really had no other choice.

Hmm...

Muzyka revealed that he played Neverwinter Nights for three years after release. "I tried a lot of fan content," he said, "user-generated modules, made some myself - not very good ones."

Under a fake name?

"Yeah, I think so," recalled Muzyka.

"Muzyka?" quipped Zeschuk. "No one can ever recognise him!"

"Akyzum," riposted Muzyka, laughing. "No, no."

[Hanako Ikezawa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Mr.Racoon wrote...

Guys, guys, c'mon.

We all know the destroy ending is the best ending, right?

I made points like hundreds of pages ago as to why Refuse is the best ending.
Destroy along with Synthesis and Control are bad endings.

while people may not agree on the best ending i think we can all agree synthesis is by far the worst

Nope, Control is the worst.

I would agree, except for the fact that I can't imagine something worse than synthesis.

LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Optimus Prime, aka Robot Jesus, agrees with me. "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."

Exactly why synthesis is the worst. You don't just take away the freedom of the reapers (and who really cares anyway?). You take it away from every single living thing - sentient or not - in the galaxy.

I care, and also the Transformers are similar to a synthesised being (autonimous robotic organisms) so Synthesis if literal can never be all bad in my mind. That and technically the galaxy placed faith in the Crucible, which for all they know was built to preform synthesis, so in a way they etc etc.(Wow, been a while since I've pulled this argument out) 

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 03 janvier 2013 - 12:39 .

[Norlond]

The overall idea: Synthesis > Destroy > Control > Refuse
In-game execution: Destroy > Refuse > Control > Synthesis
Narrative Continuity: Destroy > Control > Refuse > Synthesis

That's my opinion, not sure about narrate continuity though, if Control or Refuse is worse from that point of view
(Synthesis on top in overall idea, because I like the concept of transhumanism, or trans..organicism or something in our case)

edit: ME3 is 2nd in angryjoes Top 10 Controversies
Could have been 1st, but I agree with this 1st 100%

Modifié par Norlond, 03 janvier 2013 - 12:41 .

[Fur28]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I would agree, except for the fact that I can't imagine something worse than synthesis.

Oh, I can.

You´re talking about?........*whispering* Double synthesis.....:sick:

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I would agree, except for the fact that I can't imagine something worse than synthesis.

Oh, I can.

You´re talking about?........*whispering* Double synthesis.....:sick:

Oh no, worse than even a thousand Synthesis'. Curse my overactive imagination.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 03 janvier 2013 - 12:42 .

[Steelcan]

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

[demersel]

 While we are here all waiting for my awesome present for Rif, let's us takes some time and remember once again what it is all about. This time in the words of Commander Shepard himself.  www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par demersel, 03 janvier 2013 - 12:45 .

[BleedingUranium]

Norlond wrote...

The overall idea: Synthesis > Destroy > Control > Refuse
In-game execution: Destroy > Refuse > Control > Synthesis
Narrative Continuity: Destroy > Control > Refuse > Synthesis

That's my opinion, not sure about narrate continuity though, if Control or Refuse is worse from that point of view
(Synthesis on top in overall idea, because I like the concept of transhumanism, or trans..organicism or something in our case)

That's pretty close to what I'd say too, though I'd put Refuse last for narrative continuity. Shepard is a man of action, not doing something would be the least canon Shepard possibility.

[umadcommander]

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Mordin: Sacrifices himself to save the krogan race
Legion: Sacrifices himself to give the geth individuality
Shepard: Sacrifices himself to fulfil the reapers primary objective
seems legit