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[Hanako Ikezawa]

umadcommander wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Mordin: Sacrifices himself to save the krogan race
Legion: Sacrifices himself to give the geth individuality
Shepard: Sacrifices himself to fulfil the reapers primary objective
seems legit

Since the Reapers goal is to save all life, yes it is.

[Steelcan]

umadcommander wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Mordin: Sacrifices himself to save the krogan race
Legion: Sacrifices himself to give the geth individuality
Shepard: Sacrifices himself to fulfil the reapers primary objective
seems legit

From a literalist standpoint Synthesis isn't bad at all.  Well the future it results in isn't bad.

[demersel]

 Ok, here it is! Quickly everyone watch it, before they take it down due to copyrighted content. 
www.youtube.com/watch

[masster blaster]

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

masster blaster wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

If you ask me, new Javik(who we never even see btw) is an improvement. For all we know, Javik spends the rest of his life rebelling and killing the Reapers still.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 03 janvier 2013 - 12:53 .

[BansheeOwnage]

BleedingUranium wrote...

magnetite wrote...

draconian139 wrote...

I just can't see EA letting them do all this if it was planned from the beginning. I believed that IT was intended and that they'd release content explaining everything up until they released the EC. I still view an indoctrination attempt as the most reasonable interpretation of the ending but I don't think that we'll get DLC pointing out the truth of it. I'd love to be wrong though :-).

EA doesn't force Bioware to do anything though, least according to this.

Thing is though, DLC is a modern thing with games, so not sure how Mass Effect 3 would be able to include the DLC with this being the end of the trilogy without putting it out later on. I think they really had no other choice.

Hmm...

Muzyka revealed that he played Neverwinter Nights for three years after release. "I tried a lot of fan content," he said, "user-generated modules, made some myself - not very good ones."

Under a fake name?

"Yeah, I think so," recalled Muzyka.

"Muzyka?" quipped Zeschuk. "No one can ever recognise him!"

"Akyzum," riposted Muzyka, laughing. "No, no."

What are you thinking for the first part?

Anyway, maybe we should be looking at anagrams. I've been called Chris Priestly. I've also joked about Bill Casey Hudson. They go undercover, huh? Maybe that's why we haven't heard from them. Or maybe we have?  This is scary.

[draconian139]

demersel wrote...

 Ok, here it is! Quickly everyone watch it, before they take it down due to copyrighted content. 
www.youtube.com/watch

Darn, I'm too slow.

[umadcommander]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Mordin: Sacrifices himself to save the krogan race
Legion: Sacrifices himself to give the geth individuality
Shepard: Sacrifices himself to fulfil the reapers primary objective
seems legit

Since the Reapers goal is to save all life, yes it is.

no matter how much sprinkles bioware puts on the reapers, nothing will change the fact they have melted down thousands of civilisations into giant half robotic killing machines. They arnet saving life, they are destroying it. Life is about forging your own path which is taken away if your fate is predetermined by an outside force like the reapers

[Fur28]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Mordin: Sacrifices himself to save the krogan race
Legion: Sacrifices himself to give the geth individuality
Shepard: Sacrifices himself to fulfil the reapers primary objective
seems legit

Since the Reapers goal is to save all life, yes it is.

by killing it.
couldn´t they have just teached the second cycle to be nice with the robots and stop everything. I understand the intentions and reasoning of the the Catalyst, but also believe it to be really dumb

[Steelcan]

masster blaster wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

. The EC was poorly executed.

Modifié par Steelcan, 03 janvier 2013 - 12:55 .

[masster blaster]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Mordin: Sacrifices himself to save the krogan race
Legion: Sacrifices himself to give the geth individuality
Shepard: Sacrifices himself to fulfil the reapers primary objective
seems legit

Since the Reapers goal is to save all life, yes it is.

BS.

Tell me are the Reaeprs saving lives in this war?
Do tell did they save Mordin, Legion Thane, ANderson, and billions of other lifes?
Is the brat not sending the preserved Organics to go fight the organics/ synthetics of this cycle to preserve all life, only to have some Reapers die/ along with all of the Organics, and Synthetics fighting the Reapers?

[Fur28]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

If you ask me, new Javik(who we never even see btw) is an improvement. For all we know, Javik spends the rest of his life rebelling and killing the Reapers still.

just not Javik anymore

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Mordin: Sacrifices himself to save the krogan race
Legion: Sacrifices himself to give the geth individuality
Shepard: Sacrifices himself to fulfil the reapers primary objective
seems legit

Since the Reapers goal is to save all life, yes it is.

by killing it.
couldn´t they have just teached the second cycle to be nice with the robots and stop everything. I understand the intentions and reasoning of the the Catalyst, but also believe it to be really dumb

I was just pointing out their intent is all. The problem is he, like Irena from Solty Rei, views life as nothing but data so storing a race's essense inside an immortal starship is the best way to do that.

[masster blaster]

Steelcan wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

That's our view. My view is that it's a hint that people need to see that something is not right. It's like saying if Hulk does not want to smash any more. Then you know something is not right with the Hulk.


But if not, then it is. Thus makes Synthesis the king of all bs endings.


IT, or Literal.

Modifié par masster blaster, 03 janvier 2013 - 12:59 .

[demersel]

draconian139 wrote...

demersel wrote...

 Ok, here it is! Quickly everyone watch it, before they take it down due to copyrighted content. 
www.youtube.com/watch

Darn, I'm too slow.

It's not you. It is them. They are too fast. 

I can still send it to all interested people, if you give me a e-mail to send a download link to....Oh, wait, i can use Dropbox, and post a download link here. )))

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

If you ask me, new Javik(who we never even see btw) is an improvement. For all we know, Javik spends the rest of his life rebelling and killing the Reapers still.

just not Javik anymore

Do you KNOW that? He is never shown in the Epilogue.

[BansheeOwnage]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

If you ask me, new Javik(who we never even see btw) is an improvement. For all we know, Javik spends the rest of his life rebelling and killing the Reapers still.

I should repost my wall... Either it doesn't actually cause peace, and he was lying, or it does through mind-control. No other option.

[masster blaster]

Fur28 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

If you ask me, new Javik(who we never even see btw) is an improvement. For all we know, Javik spends the rest of his life rebelling and killing the Reapers still.

just not Javik anymore

No Garrus, nor Jack, nor Hackett, nor Leviathans, Nor Aria, nor anybody. Just a few minutes ago we were fighting for the right to live, but then because of a hippe green beam just magically hit's everyone they are all going to be bff's. Ya It's not like I was trying to kill a Reaper that huskifed my bodys, and I had to put them down.

[BansheeOwnage]

Steelcan wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'd say Synthesis is narratively consistent. It is supposed to be Sheoard sacrificing himself to being about a higher firm if existence, like Legion and Mordin

Yet nobody is their selfs anymore. Javik for all people is being nice to the Reapers. That's either bs, more bs, bad writing, or a hint from Bioware that something is up.

. The EC was poorly executed.

Yes. That's why I think if there is an IT reveal, it will regard the EC as non-canon.

@LDS Transformers are not synthesis. Not even close.

[Steelcan]

masster blaster wrote...
That's our view. My view is that it's a hint that people need to see that something is not right. It's like saying if Hulk does not want to smash any more. Then you know something is not right with the Hulk.


But if not, then it is. Thus makes Synthesis the king of all bs endings.

. It's not necessarily a bad thing that the Hulk doesn't want to smash anymore.

And Synthesis is the god of bs endings.  But not because of its end result.

Besides I was just having some fun with my editing 

[Norlond]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Norlond wrote...

The overall idea: Synthesis > Destroy > Control > Refuse
In-game execution: Destroy > Refuse > Control > Synthesis
Narrative Continuity: Destroy > Control > Refuse > Synthesis

That's my opinion, not sure about narrate continuity though, if Control or Refuse is worse from that point of view
(Synthesis on top in overall idea, because I like the concept of transhumanism, or trans..organicism or something in our case)

That's pretty close to what I'd say too, though I'd put Refuse last for narrative continuity. Shepard is a man of action, not doing something would be the least canon Shepard possibility.

That's true, but Synthesis stays the worst for me, because 1: Saren and 2: Space Magic, which counts as terrible execution AND -narrative element

Side note: Just watched the finale of a german ME3 LP, the guy chose Synthesis, liked it and said he can't see any controversies and plot holes

[Hanako Ikezawa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...
@LDS Transformers are not synthesis. Not even close.

I said similar, as in they share both organic and synthetic qualities. I should say they are like how synthetics would have ended up from Synthesis Pre-EC.

[masster blaster]

Steelcan wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
That's our view. My view is that it's a hint that people need to see that something is not right. It's like saying if Hulk does not want to smash any more. Then you know something is not right with the Hulk.


But if not, then it is. Thus makes Synthesis the king of all bs endings.

. It's not necessarily a bad thing that the Hulk doesn't want to smash anymore.

And Synthesis is the god of bs endings.  But not because of its end result.

Besides I was just having some fun with my editing 

I know. Yes It sounds good, but coming from the donkeys mouth it's
coming out as bs. It says Synthesis can not be forced, yet in order to
do Synthesis we have to force it on the galaxy. Well how did Shepard/
the Player think Synthesis was going to happen?


edit: But Hulk likes to smash.

Modifié par masster blaster, 03 janvier 2013 - 01:03 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

masster blaster wrote...
That's our view. My view is that it's a hint that people need to see that something is not right. It's like saying if Hulk does not want to smash any more. Then you know something is not right with the Hulk.


But if not, then it is. Thus makes Synthesis the king of all bs endings.


IT, or Literal.

It is not the worst ending in history, you have to be honest.

Edit: Top. It's been a while.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 03 janvier 2013 - 01:02 .

[BleedingUranium]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Since the Reapers goal is to save all life, yes it is.

The Reapers' goals are self-preservation and reproduction, nothing more.