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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Rifneno wrote...

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Why the...  whatever face that is?  It's a great scene.

Well, you see it reminded me of his death, so I got sad. Posted Image

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Yay! Revan you're still here according to your modified 16 minutes ago top post!

Here am doing this on a computer.  I tried to catch these as they reached their peak of the pattern from the video when you search for Javik and the Thessia temple (as you can tell from the headline):

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

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AWESOME.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

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Now THAT is an awesome wallpaper! *saves*

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

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MMMMhhhhmhmmmhsasdpofkpok
AWESOME.


Yeah, I made this with you and Blur in mind. :D

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byne wrote...

I dont think he ever says it in ME2. Plus in
ME3 he says he was too focused on the big picture to see the little
pictures. Not the other way around.

Yeah, got turned around[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png[/smilie]

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About the genophage cure: I never tell Wrex/Eve about them asking me to sabotage it, this is despite never even considering sabotaging it.  I just always worried about the information that the Salarians wanted it sabotaged getting back to the Krogans as a whole and leading to another conflict later.  

I'd worry if it was Wreav but Eve and Wrex are level-headed enough to want more than the continual bloodshed that has plagued the Krogan alongside the genophage. In ME2 he's spear-heading the campaign for sharing breeding partners to galvanise the race as a whole instead of selfishly hoarding it. When you defeat the rival who wants Grunt as a trophy leader; Wrex happily adopts the remaining clan while Wreav kills them off.

Besides; I have to tell my Bro-gan buddy what I'm giving up for him after saving the cure data and promising to help him after the Virmire incident.:)

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Rifneno wrote...

Shepard: Every time we've talked about this before, you've defended the genophage!
Shepard: Hell, I had to talk you into saving Maelon's data! How can you change your mind now?
Mordin (yelling): I made a mistake!
Mordin (calmed down, speaking normally): I made a mistake... focused on big picture. Big picture made of little pictures. Too many variables.
Mordin: Can't hide behind statistics. Can't ignore new data. My responsibility. Need to go. Running out of time.


Mordin: And don't think about puling out your pistol Shepard. if you pull the
trigger on me then you will die as well.Consider this my gift to you
when I gave you that weapon in my clinic.

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Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard: Every time we've talked about this before, you've defended the genophage!
Shepard: Hell, I had to talk you into saving Maelon's data! How can you change your mind now?
Mordin (yelling): I made a mistake!
Mordin (calmed down, speaking normally): I made a mistake... focused on big picture. Big picture made of little pictures. Too many variables.
Mordin: Can't hide behind statistics. Can't ignore new data. My responsibility. Need to go. Running out of time.

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Why the...  whatever face that is?  It's a great scene.  It doesn't mean Shepard kills him or sabotages the genophage (though you have to be on the path to do so).  I love the emotion Mordin displays there.  Even in the med bay in ME3, he still defends his decisions about the genophage earlier and says he didn't make a mistake, just new circumstances.  Here he finally lashes out with the truth.  The regret and remorse that's been eating away at him.  And now, his chance to set things right.  One he's willing to die for.  He's a great man and a wonderful character.  I didn't particularly care for Mordin's new VA, but only because I was used to his old one, the new one did a tremendous job.


Don't you have to lie to Wrex and Eve to get this though?


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CmdrShep80 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

*snip*


Now THAT is an awesome wallpaper! *saves*


I have it in 1248x702, but because my Photobucket account is like ten years old, my file size limit is still on 1024x768. It's crazy. I should complain about that, I can't change it in my settings.

If anyone has a higher resolution version of the Shepard image (bigger than 1248x702), I could make it even more hi-res. The Javik image I used is pretty huge.

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PsiMatrix wrote...

draconian139 wrote...

About the genophage cure: I never tell Wrex/Eve about them asking me to sabotage it, this is despite never even considering sabotaging it.  I just always worried about the information that the Salarians wanted it sabotaged getting back to the Krogans as a whole and leading to another conflict later.  

I'd worry if it was Wreav but Eve and Wrex are level-headed enough to want more than the continual bloodshed that has plagued the Krogan alongside the genophage. In ME2 he's spear-heading the campaign for sharing breeding partners to galvanise the race as a whole instead of selfishly hoarding it. When you defeat the rival who wants Grunt as a trophy leader; Wrex happily adopts the remaining clan while Wreav kills them off.

Besides; I have to tell my Bro-gan buddy what I'm giving up for him after saving the cure data.:)


I'm not worried about Wrex, if we were in private I'd tell him.  Frankly I just don't know Eve or the person driving us well enough.

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draconian139 wrote...

PsiMatrix wrote...

draconian139 wrote...

About the genophage cure: I never tell Wrex/Eve about them asking me to sabotage it, this is despite never even considering sabotaging it.  I just always worried about the information that the Salarians wanted it sabotaged getting back to the Krogans as a whole and leading to another conflict later.  

I'd worry if it was Wreav but Eve and Wrex are level-headed enough to want more than the continual bloodshed that has plagued the Krogan alongside the genophage. In ME2 he's spear-heading the campaign for sharing breeding partners to galvanise the race as a whole instead of selfishly hoarding it. When you defeat the rival who wants Grunt as a trophy leader; Wrex happily adopts the remaining clan while Wreav kills them off.

Besides; I have to tell my Bro-gan buddy what I'm giving up for him after saving the cure data.:)


I'm not worried about Wrex, if we were in private I'd tell him.  Frankly I just don't know Eve or the person driving us well enough.

You can talk to her in the med-bay once you've rescued her from the
Sur'Kesh facility. You get an idea that she's very much the matriarch
the Krogan need.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

*snip*


Now THAT is an awesome wallpaper! *saves*


I have it in 1248x702, but because my Photobucket account is like ten years old, my file size limit is still on 1024x768. It's crazy. I should complain about that, I can't change it in my settings.

If anyone has a higher resolution version of the Shepard image (bigger than 1248x702), I could make it even more hi-res. The Javik image I used is pretty huge.


1920x1200, the biggest that exists:

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Yea, I talked to her and she came off as nice enough. A couple conversations and such a short amount of time isn't enough to earn my Shep's trust though.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

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EDIT - SNIPS in the interest of others

MMMMhhhhmhmmmhsasdpofkpok
AWESOME.


Yeah, I made this with you and Blur in mind. :D


Aww thanks!  Look Blur we've been made into a picture.  Though apparently my Shepard got a total makeover Posted Image

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...
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Put her away! My eyes they burn!

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@Revan did you see the map you were looking for at the top of the page?

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masster blaster wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard: Every time we've talked about this before, you've defended the genophage!
Shepard: Hell, I had to talk you into saving Maelon's data! How can you change your mind now?
Mordin (yelling): I made a mistake!
Mordin (calmed down, speaking normally): I made a mistake... focused on big picture. Big picture made of little pictures. Too many variables.
Mordin: Can't hide behind statistics. Can't ignore new data. My responsibility. Need to go. Running out of time.


Mordin: And don't think about puling out your pistol Shepard. if you pull the
trigger on me then you will die as well.Consider this my gift to you
when I gave you that weapon in my clinic.


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Rifneno wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard: Every time we've talked about this before, you've defended the genophage!
Shepard: Hell, I had to talk you into saving Maelon's data! How can you change your mind now?
Mordin (yelling): I made a mistake!
Mordin (calmed down, speaking normally): I made a mistake... focused on big picture. Big picture made of little pictures. Too many variables.
Mordin: Can't hide behind statistics. Can't ignore new data. My responsibility. Need to go. Running out of time.


Mordin: And don't think about puling out your pistol Shepard. if you pull the
trigger on me then you will die as well.Consider this my gift to you
when I gave you that weapon in my clinic.


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rif that is an awesome pic too. I need to use that line at work

@masster - did Mordin really say that and he really gave a weapon? Which was it? The predator?

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Rifneno wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard: Every time we've talked about this before, you've defended the genophage!
Shepard: Hell, I had to talk you into saving Maelon's data! How can you change your mind now?
Mordin (yelling): I made a mistake!
Mordin (calmed down, speaking normally): I made a mistake... focused on big picture. Big picture made of little pictures. Too many variables.
Mordin: Can't hide behind statistics. Can't ignore new data. My responsibility. Need to go. Running out of time.


Mordin: And don't think about puling out your pistol Shepard. if you pull the
trigger on me then you will die as well.Consider this my gift to you
when I gave you that weapon in my clinic.


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Ya, and it's funny Wrex wanted to name his first child Mordin, yet in the end he says Eve wanted to name the child Mordin.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Shepard: Every time we've talked about this before, you've defended the genophage!
Shepard: Hell, I had to talk you into saving Maelon's data! How can you change your mind now?
Mordin (yelling): I made a mistake!
Mordin (calmed down, speaking normally): I made a mistake... focused on big picture. Big picture made of little pictures. Too many variables.
Mordin: Can't hide behind statistics. Can't ignore new data. My responsibility. Need to go. Running out of time.


Mordin: And don't think about puling out your pistol Shepard. if you pull the
trigger on me then you will die as well.Consider this my gift to you
when I gave you that weapon in my clinic.


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rif that is an awesome pic too. I need to use that line at work

@masster - did Mordin really say that and he really gave a weapon? Which was it? The predator?


No he never said that, but the weapon was the Carfinex. He gives you it in ME2, when you where in his clinic.

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

@masster - did Mordin really say that and he really gave a weapon? Which was it? The predator?


Mordin never said that, but I believe masster is referring to the fact that you kill Mordin in ME3 with a Carnifex, which is the same weapon he gave you in ME2 as a token of good faith.

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byne wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

@masster - did Mordin really say that and he really gave a weapon? Which was it? The predator?


Mordin never said that, but I believe masster is referring to the fact that you kill Mordin in ME3 with a Carnifex, which is the same weapon he gave you in ME2 as a token of good faith.

Im guessing that was just a nod to ME2.  You can't even get the Carnifex at that point in game right? (Non-ME3 import)

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Wait wait wait wait. IF the only way to activate Vendetta in the Beacon on Thessia. You had to have the Prothean cipher. How in the hell did the Protheans expect for the other races in the next cycle, or cycles to come to unlock Vendetta? It makes no sense. Also I was watching a video when Shepard is in the temple, and nobody notices that the Prothean statue is glowing, except Shepard. Then Shepard slowly approaches the beacon, and closes her eyes. Now what's funny it usually Shepard is in pain when ever he/she feels the beacon/ activates it, but this time it didn't.

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masster blaster wrote...

Wait wait wait wait. IF the only way to activate Vendetta in the Beacon on Thessia. You had to have the Prothean cipher. How in the hell did the Protheans expect for the other races in the next cycle, or cycles to come to unlock Vendetta? It makes no sense. Also I was watching a video when Shepard is in the temple, and nobody notices that the Prothean statue is glowing, except Shepard. Then Shepard slowly approaches the beacon, and closes her eyes. Now what's funny it usually Shepard is in pain when ever he/she feels the beacon/ activates it, but this time it didn't.

The Protheans did expect some Protheans to survive into the current cycle, more than just one.  They also overestimated the rate at which communications would develop, see Javik's comments on email and about the beacon hen he is first on the Normandy