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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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magnetite wrote...

Hey, speaking of those green eyes, didn't we see those during the Synthesis ending? Is that some kind of sign or trick or something? I don't really know how to describe what I saw. Vocabulary is kind of limited.


Just like Control, Synthesis gave Shep the glowing blue eyes. He got green eyes during the From Ashes flashbacks.

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Another question I have is when did the Illusive Man become indoctrinated? He's had those orb kind of eyes since the beginning of Mass Effect 2 that don't look anything like Shepard's (which don't have orbs at the beginning of Mass Effect 2).

Still not sure about the eyes though, whether indoctrinated eyes just glow, or have the orbs as well as the glow. Kind of confused.  

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magnetite wrote...

Another question I have is when did the Illusive Man become indoctrinated? He's had those orb kind of eyes since the beginning of Mass Effect 2 that don't look anything like Shepard's (which don't have orbs at the beginning of Mass Effect 2).

Still not sure about the eyes though, whether indoctrinated eyes just glow, or have the orbs as well. Kind of confused.  


He gets his eyes that way near the end of the First Contact War (see the Evolution comic), by having (second hand) contact with a (likely) Reaper artifact. That said, it's not entirely clear from the comic whether that means that he's (getting) indoctrinated. But he does, for example, suddenly start understanding alien languages that he didn't before, even languages nearly no one speaks anymore.

Read it, it's a very good read!

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I really should look into that extra content (books, comics). Might help explain some stuff for me.

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*returns from vacation, sees 100 pages to read and shivers*
Soo, guys, what happened in the last week? :)

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*returns from vacation, sees 100 pages to read and shivers*
Soo, guys, what happened in the last week? :)


Well, besides the Leviathan announcement, Operation Olympus' interesting description? Estebanus stopped believin'.

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masster blaster, your long post about Cerberus is way too long. Still, you're spot on. A little late though. Everything you said is something most of us on BSN had already figured out months ago. I mean it's actually pretty damn obvious that TIM and Cerberus got indoctrinated because of the Collector base and/or its content (the human reaper).

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MaximizedAction wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

*returns from vacation, sees 100 pages to read and shivers*
Soo, guys, what happened in the last week? :)


Well, besides the Leviathan announcement, Operation Olympus' interesting description? Estebanus stopped believin'.


What's so interesting about the description?

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MaximizedAction wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

*returns from vacation, sees 100 pages to read and shivers*
Soo, guys, what happened in the last week? :)


Well, besides the Leviathan announcement, Operation Olympus' interesting description? Estebanus stopped believin'.


I'm sorry to hear that, really. He was a good fella :crying:
For Leviathan have we got a date, or is it only the announcement and a trailer? 
That operation description IS interesting. If we relate the MP to SP, we are at the point when Anderson tells you of London for the first time. 

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mrs.N7 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

*returns from vacation, sees 100 pages to read and shivers*
Soo, guys, what happened in the last week? :)


Well, besides the Leviathan announcement, Operation Olympus' interesting description? Estebanus stopped believin'.


I'm sorry to hear that, really. He was a good fella :crying:
For Leviathan have we got a date, or is it only the announcement and a trailer? 
That operation description IS interesting. If we relate the MP to SP, we are at the point when Anderson tells you of London for the first time. 


So far we only have the announcement and a trailer, the date is just "this summer". But in an interview with Mike Gamble that was posted yesterday on youtube, he said that, considering that it's already August, it shouldn't be long anymore.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

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RavenEyry wrote...

There appears to be the usual circular logic of 'It must be bad writing cos Bioware are bad writers. I know they're bad writers because of the ending.' Always annoys me.


There is nothing circular about that. If a writer is bad, his writing is going to be bad. A bad writer can be recognized by his bad writing. There is nothing circular about that.


Really?!? <_< WTF? If you are trying to make a logical point don't troll. If you aren't trying to make points and are intentionally trolling then I will ask you nicely to leave. 


Oh. So by that logic, since Hitler loved dogs, and Hitler was an evil person, all dogs are evil?


Wait who's logic. Mine or his? :huh: If it's mine, I just noticed some grammar errors. Fixed in bold. 


His.


Your analogy fails and is retarded. Try again.

And I'm not trolling. I am making a logical point. The writing in ME3 is bad. That must mean ME3's writers are either bad or they just had a bad day or something when they wrote ME3. You choose.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

*returns from vacation, sees 100 pages to read and shivers*
Soo, guys, what happened in the last week? :)


Well, besides the Leviathan announcement, Operation Olympus' interesting description? Estebanus stopped believin'.


I'm sorry to hear that, really. He was a good fella :crying:
For Leviathan have we got a date, or is it only the announcement and a trailer? 
That operation description IS interesting. If we relate the MP to SP, we are at the point when Anderson tells you of London for the first time.


So far we only have the announcement and a trailer, the date is just "this summer". But in an interview with Mike Gamble that was posted yesterday on youtube, he said that, considering that it's already August, it shouldn't be long anymore.

Who could have known... anyways, something much more exciting: Andersond was born in London!

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 09 août 2012 - 09:58 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

*returns from vacation, sees 100 pages to read and shivers*
Soo, guys, what happened in the last week? :)


Well, besides the Leviathan announcement, Operation Olympus' interesting description? Estebanus stopped believin'.


I'm sorry to hear that, really. He was a good fella :crying:
For Leviathan have we got a date, or is it only the announcement and a trailer? 
That operation description IS interesting. If we relate the MP to SP, we are at the point when Anderson tells you of London for the first time.


So far we only have the announcement and a trailer, the date is just "this summer". But in an interview with Mike Gamble that was posted yesterday on youtube, he said that, considering that it's already August, it shouldn't be long anymore.

Who could have known... anyways, something much more exciting: Andersond was born in London!


Honestly this weeks operation probably a tribute to the Olympics more then anything

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So I'm on here for 5 minutes before I explode from stress.

Got an exam in 3 hours on "Dynamics of nth order systems and control system theory" ¬_¬
FML.
Cannot wait for the weekend - I shall achieve the required allied goals all by myself if necessary...

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Rosewind wrote...

Honestly this weeks operation probably a tribute to the Olympics more then anything

ORLY? Why, what a terrible coincidence it is that London is also a central part of the SP story and that there is also "something big happening in London". ;)

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TSA_383 wrote...

So I'm on here for 5 minutes before I explode from stress.

Got an exam in 3 hours on "Dynamics of nth order systems and control system theory" ¬_¬
FML.
Cannot wait for the weekend - I shall achieve the required allied goals all by myself if necessary...


Goooood Luck!!! And I will deffently do the Mp operation with u :P

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TSA_383 wrote...

So I'm on here for 5 minutes before I explode from stress.

Got an exam in 3 hours on "Dynamics of nth order systems and control system theory" ¬_¬
FML.
Cannot wait for the weekend - I shall achieve the required allied goals all by myself if necessary...


You can do this! But just in case: good luck.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Honestly this weeks operation probably a tribute to the Olympics more then anything

ORLY? Why, what a terrible coincidence it is that London is also a central part of the SP story and that there is also "something big happening in London". ;)


*rolls eyes*
Some times you guys look way into things then what really is there.

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Rosewind wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Honestly this weeks operation probably a tribute to the Olympics more then anything

ORLY? Why, what a terrible coincidence it is that London is also a central part of the SP story and that there is also "something big happening in London". ;)


*rolls eyes*
Some times you guys look way into things then what really is there.

The name is based on the Olympics, but still the description resembles what Anderson tells you.

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Rosewind wrote...

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Rosewind wrote...

Honestly this weeks operation probably a tribute to the Olympics more then anything

ORLY? Why, what a terrible coincidence it is that London is also a central part of the SP story and that there is also "something big happening in London". ;)


*rolls eyes*
Some times you guys look way into things then what really is there.


On there have been ads for the Olympics using the song London Calling... Coincidence or did Bioware plan it? O_o

Although I do believe this is significant as it shows the operations and the MP it self is getting closer to the SP's end game and if Bioware want to continue with this operations (and go along with the SP's plot which they seem to be doing), well they're gonna have to ad more endgame. Or atleast hint that there is more after the end.

If that is what bioware are doing,,, continuing the plot in some manner through the MP while they build DLC sets and a wake up DLC then I think it's genuise. 

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Macross wrote...

If that is what bioware are doing,,, continuing the plot in some manner through the MP while they build DLC sets and a wake up DLC then I think it's genuise. 


Only if the DLCs are free >.> Otherwise they better get ready for another ****storm.

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Rosewind wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Honestly this weeks operation probably a tribute to the Olympics more then anything

ORLY? Why, what a terrible coincidence it is that London is also a central part of the SP story and that there is also "something big happening in London". ;)


*rolls eyes*
Some times you guys look way into things then what really is there.


Finally someone who gets it!
It's pretty damn f-ing obvious that Operation Olympus is a tribute to the London Olympics 2012! :pinched:

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Macross wrote...

If that is what bioware are doing,,, continuing the plot in some manner through the MP while they build DLC sets and a wake up DLC then I think it's genuise. 


Only if the DLCs are free >.> Otherwise they better get ready for another ****storm.


Well, Leviathan adds lines to the endings, and there hasn't really been any sh*tstorm. But I too would rather not have to pay more than for the main game itself, to have the complete main story line. If I were rich I wouldn't give a rat's ass, but I'm not. :blush:

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pirate1802 wrote...

Macross wrote...

If that is what bioware are doing,,, continuing the plot in some manner through the MP while they build DLC sets and a wake up DLC then I think it's genuise. 


Only if the DLCs are free >.> Otherwise they better get ready for another ****storm.


Leviathan isn't. No ****storm happening over that apart from what might be in it.


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