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[BansheeOwnage]

Norlond wrote...

umadcommander wrote...
needs a monocleB)

Awesome man. I wonder what mine would look like with a tophat and monocle...

[masster blaster]

CoolioThane wrote...

 
Shepard Alive
Sense of hope
1) Finale 2) brave new world 3) symbolic

So is Shepard to live through the ending? A sense of hope, eh? Breath scene = hope, obviously. The scenes on Eden could be classed as hopeful as well?

1) Finale, obviously as we're at the end of the game

2) brave new world...1931 novel by Aldous Huxley about a "utopian" society. This clearly points towards synthesis, and interestingly enough, the brave new world the characters live in, just is. It might appear as a utopia, but I'd argue it to be a dystopia. Civilians have no freedom, no personal liberties and when one person finds he is aware, it is near impossible to break from this FORCED life. Babies are indoctrinated with propaganda to show their class is the best, whilst the others exist to perform needed functions. Any residual unhappiness is sorted out by pumping them full of antidepressant and hallucinogenic drugs.

I'm sure you can all see the parallels there with synthesis, and to me shows it to be a negative. Even without indicating IT/literal it does place synthesis in a bad light, so perhaps synth-supporters should read the book before bowing down to it.

3) Symbolic. This is our bread and butter. Control is symbolic of TIM, Synthesis of Saren and Destroy of Shepard/Anderson. It is no mistake that two of the three choices (Refuse is not a part of this, and I personally now believe refuse to be the wrong choice) are symbolic of the two main enemies of the series. It shows them to be wrong choices, and Destroy is the only true path.


Bomb - Sacrifice Self
Reaper - Take Control
Hybrid - blast goes out...

Okay, so Bomb=Destroy, we sacrifice ourself to save the Galaxy. 
Reaper=control, we do what TIM wants
Hybrid=Synthesis, the hybrid of organics and synthetics. Vague "blast goes out..." indicative of an unfinished idea for what would truly happen to Shepard? Or maybe the Crucible itself was originally to be used for synthesis, with destroy setting off a bomb and control...who knows?

That could put further evidence behind the crucible being a trap, as if that is right, the act of using the crucible leads to a brave new world scenerio therefore bad. 


Destroy Life - Creates Life -

Choice -> Catalyst -> Shepard's Essence

Destroying life creates life? Could that perhaps be the starchild's early explanation for the harvest? They destroy life of the current cycle so the life of the next can be created? As most of us believe, the circular logic of starchild is wrong.

The "ladder" type diagram interested me, and the first thing it made me think of was the layout of the decision chamber, with the three distinct areas of the choice, the starchild and the player...but wait, on the left "Choice, Catalyst, Shepard's Essence" - Essence, eh? Sounds to me like it could be Shepard's essence in the decision chamber and not Shepard's physical body. That provides some evidence for IT in my opinion.


Foreshadow -> Reaper (INSERT WORD HERE) -> said by reaper -> Weakness for Reapers

Device -> Foreshadowing

Device -> Vague Terms

Device -> Impacts Everything -> Reaper (INSERT WORD HERE)

Lots of foreshadowing for the ending choices? I think that's a given, looking back over the games with Saren/Overlord perhaps foreshadowing Synthesis, TIM/Cerberus foreshadowing Control and EVERYTHING ANYONE SAYS foreshadowing Destroy in ME3 

why use vague terms for the device(crucible) if there was not anything to hide. I'm therefore inferring the crucible is a trap/ there is a hell of a lot more to it that the Reapers don't want us to know.

I'm annoyed I can't read the word after "Reaper" but it is followed in the diagram by "said by reaper" (I think) and then "weakness for Reapers"  -> This is interesting and would like to hear anyone's thoughts on what this could relate to


Chain Reaction -> Ends Conflict -> "Ambiguous function" and "They say bomb"

This most likely referring to the chain reaction of the relays in the endings, and sticks with the "ambiguous function" of the crucible, as we are still not clear on what the **** it does, truly. "They say bomb"...could this mean there is more to Destroy than meets the eye as well? Could mean breath scene but could perhaps warn us that it is not truly a "bomb"...

as the chain reaction was part of the ending from the start, I find it very unlikely they'd make the mistake they did make with them by accident. It's done on purpose from a relay that does not exist in the game.


Endings - how do they feel?

brave new world + End of the First Matrix

I guess they're asking ME how they feel. Well, Control feels very sinister, very "Germany i the 30's and 40's", Synthesis feels like a ****ing abomination and a disgusting pile of **** on the face of a DYSTOPIAN wankfest. Destroy is good, I like it. Refuse is depressing and wrong.

brave new world again, they seem to want to put across the whole "utopia on the face, creepy, disturbing dystopia below". The end of the first matrix is another interesting thing to write. At the end of The Matrix, Agent Smith kills Neo inside the Matrix, meaning he dies in real life. Trinity kisses real life dead-Neo and he lives again...this time at full NEO power and easily defeats Smith before getting out of the Matrix in time to destroy all of the synthetic sentinels attacking the ship.

well, well, well...sounds awful similar to IT if you ask me We die in the decision chamber...yet with a high enough EMS we wake up in rubble on Earth. So...do you think having a high enough EMS is like the Trinity kiss and we go on to defeat the synthetic sentinels attacking? Death to the Reaper scum!


Shepard's Death

Theories about all things

Boy But why did he have to die?

Sheapard dying is a pretty common theme across all four endings except high-EMS destroy. Theories about all things is kinda funny, as it is exactly what is happening. Have we cottoned on to the true theory? IMO yes, but only they know.

Boy "But why did he have to die?" - Perhaps the original line that the stargazer child says at the Wintersun scene? Interesting if we survive in High EMS Destroy though 

AND FINALLY

Yes...yes indeed you sadistic bastards 

Hope you liked this, it's not very detailed and I'm sorry but thought we could talk about something.

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[CoolioThane]

Reposting for top of page

CoolioThane wrote...

 
Shepard Alive
Sense of hope
1) Finale 2) brave new world 3) symbolic

So is Shepard to live through the ending? A sense of hope, eh? Breath scene = hope, obviously. The scenes on Eden could be classed as hopeful as well?

1) Finale, obviously as we're at the end of the game

2) brave new world...1931 novel by Aldous Huxley about a "utopian" society. This clearly points towards synthesis, and interestingly enough, the brave new world the characters live in, just is. It might appear as a utopia, but I'd argue it to be a dystopia. Civilians have no freedom, no personal liberties and when one person finds he is aware, it is near impossible to break from this FORCED life. Babies are indoctrinated with propaganda to show their class is the best, whilst the others exist to perform needed functions. Any residual unhappiness is sorted out by pumping them full of antidepressant and hallucinogenic drugs.

I'm sure you can all see the parallels there with synthesis, and to me shows it to be a negative. Even without indicating IT/literal it does place synthesis in a bad light, so perhaps synth-supporters should read the book before bowing down to it.

3) Symbolic. This is our bread and butter. Control is symbolic of TIM, Synthesis of Saren and Destroy of Shepard/Anderson. It is no mistake that two of the three choices (Refuse is not a part of this, and I personally now believe refuse to be the wrong choice) are symbolic of the two main enemies of the series. It shows them to be wrong choices, and Destroy is the only true path.


Bomb - Sacrifice Self
Reaper - Take Control
Hybrid - blast goes out...

Okay, so Bomb=Destroy, we sacrifice ourself to save the Galaxy. 
Reaper=control, we do what TIM wants
Hybrid=Synthesis, the hybrid of organics and synthetics. Vague "blast goes out..." indicative of an unfinished idea for what would truly happen to Shepard? Or maybe the Crucible itself was originally to be used for synthesis, with destroy setting off a bomb and control...who knows?

That could put further evidence behind the crucible being a trap, as if that is right, the act of using the crucible leads to a brave new world scenerio therefore bad. 


Destroy Life - Creates Life -

Choice -> Catalyst -> Shepard's Essence

Destroying life creates life? Could that perhaps be the starchild's early explanation for the harvest? They destroy life of the current cycle so the life of the next can be created? As most of us believe, the circular logic of starchild is wrong.

The "ladder" type diagram interested me, and the first thing it made me think of was the layout of the decision chamber, with the three distinct areas of the choice, the starchild and the player...but wait, on the left "Choice, Catalyst, Shepard's Essence" - Essence, eh? Sounds to me like it could be Shepard's essence in the decision chamber and not Shepard's physical body. That provides some evidence for IT in my opinion.


Foreshadow -> Reaper (INSERT WORD HERE) -> said by reaper -> Weakness for Reapers

Device -> Foreshadowing

Device -> Vague Terms

Device -> Impacts Everything -> Reaper (INSERT WORD HERE)

Lots of foreshadowing for the ending choices? I think that's a given, looking back over the games with Saren/Overlord perhaps foreshadowing Synthesis, TIM/Cerberus foreshadowing Control and EVERYTHING ANYONE SAYS foreshadowing Destroy in ME3 

why use vague terms for the device(crucible) if there was not anything to hide. I'm therefore inferring the crucible is a trap/ there is a hell of a lot more to it that the Reapers don't want us to know.

I'm annoyed I can't read the word after "Reaper" but it is followed in the diagram by "said by reaper" (I think) and then "weakness for Reapers"  -> This is interesting and would like to hear anyone's thoughts on what this could relate to


Chain Reaction -> Ends Conflict -> "Ambiguous function" and "They say bomb"

This most likely referring to the chain reaction of the relays in the endings, and sticks with the "ambiguous function" of the crucible, as we are still not clear on what the **** it does, truly. "They say bomb"...could this mean there is more to Destroy than meets the eye as well? Could mean breath scene but could perhaps warn us that it is not truly a "bomb"...

as the chain reaction was part of the ending from the start, I find it very unlikely they'd make the mistake they did make with them by accident. It's done on purpose from a relay that does not exist in the game.


Endings - how do they feel?

brave new world + End of the First Matrix

I guess they're asking ME how they feel. Well, Control feels very sinister, very "Germany i the 30's and 40's", Synthesis feels like a ****ing abomination and a disgusting pile of **** on the face of a DYSTOPIAN wankfest. Destroy is good, I like it. Refuse is depressing and wrong.

brave new world again, they seem to want to put across the whole "utopia on the face, creepy, disturbing dystopia below". The end of the first matrix is another interesting thing to write. At the end of The Matrix, Agent Smith kills Neo inside the Matrix, meaning he dies in real life. Trinity kisses real life dead-Neo and he lives again...this time at full NEO power and easily defeats Smith before getting out of the Matrix in time to destroy all of the synthetic sentinels attacking the ship.

well, well, well...sounds awful similar to IT if you ask me We die in the decision chamber...yet with a high enough EMS we wake up in rubble on Earth. So...do you think having a high enough EMS is like the Trinity kiss and we go on to defeat the synthetic sentinels attacking? Death to the Reaper scum!


Shepard's Death

Theories about all things

Boy But why did he have to die?

Sheapard dying is a pretty common theme across all four endings except high-EMS destroy. Theories about all things is kinda funny, as it is exactly what is happening. Have we cottoned on to the true theory? IMO yes, but only they know.

Boy "But why did he have to die?" - Perhaps the original line that the stargazer child says at the Wintersun scene? Interesting if we survive in High EMS Destroy though 

AND FINALLY

Yes...yes indeed you sadistic bastards 

Hope you liked this, it's not very detailed and I'm sorry but thought we could talk about something.

[TheProtheans]

Restrider wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Restrider wrote...

How would you even do that? Showing it after the Liara-VI scene, supposedly happening up to 50 000 years in the future and then jumping back to Shepard's time??? No way...

In conclusion:
Right now High EMS Destroy seems to be the best solution in regards to IT, but I would not discount Refuse at all.

Liara - VI is very short, could be playing in Shepard mind.
But it could be so short because of Shepards stance

Destroy, Synthesis and Control have long drawn out ones.

I am on your side (though not that extremist in regards to Destroy). IF Refuse had a Breath Scene in the EC like Destroy has, where would you place it? If it was as I pointed out to you, no one should take this literal!

This just shows that your assertion that a Breath Scene would spoil future (IT) content is totally correct.

I would place it at the same stage as high destroy ems, after the visions.
If you mean where would I place Shepard? well perhaps the longer he is under the hallucination the worse his health becomes in the same area as destroy shepard.

[BansheeOwnage]

Restrider wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Skillz. it does kinda make sense. in that way all your decisions would matter. the major problem i have with the equation is the whole ems thing tho. ems - as it is doesnt make any sense at all. it's just numbers, and the actual assets values dont make any sense.

Speculations eh?

The best EMS weirdness is still the way Anderson dies. If he was killed by TIM with Shepard not being able to have a last speech to Anderson, then magically High EMS Destroy requires 1000 EMS more (afaik).
Anderson however, dies regardless and has no real influence on the battle or the functionality of the Crucible, only on Shepard's resolve.
You could interpret that Shepard has a stronger will to live, even in a literal POV. But if the line between physical assets (fleets, soldiers, technology...) and assets that strengthen Shepard's resolve (and these heavily outnumbering the physical assests in proportion) blurs, we assume that Shepard's mental state has indeed influence on the endings. Going down this path usually ends in some sort of non-literal ending (such as IT).

Very well said. Effective Mental Strength. Anderson is worth more than all the krogan and geth.

[dorktainian]

Coolio.

If the decision chamber is the Indoctrination of Shepard and then afterwards he 'wakes up',

by picking destroy he might be sending out signals to synthetics that he is prepared to sacrifice them in order to achieve victory. this could end up with him forcing synthetics to side with the reapers.

I agree that of the 3 endings destroy would appear to be the best one - and thats kinda why i dont trust it. something aint right. it shouldnt be that easy.

[MegumiAzusa]

Restrider wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Skillz. it does kinda make sense. in that way all your decisions would matter. the major problem i have with the equation is the whole ems thing tho. ems - as it is doesnt make any sense at all. it's just numbers, and the actual assets values dont make any sense.

Speculations eh?

The best EMS weirdness is still the way Anderson dies. If he was killed by TIM with Shepard not being able to have a last speech to Anderson, then magically High EMS Destroy requires 1000 EMS more (afaik).
Anderson however, dies regardless and has no real influence on the battle or the functionality of the Crucible, only on Shepard's resolve.
You could interpret that Shepard has a stronger will to live, even in a literal POV. But if the line between physical assets (fleets, soldiers, technology...) and assets that strengthen Shepard's resolve (and these heavily outnumbering the physical assests in proportion) blurs, we assume that Shepard's mental state has indeed influence on the endings. Going down this path usually ends in some sort of non-literal ending (such as IT).

Anderson's death only influences the breath scene. Your argument would only be valid if it would also chance something else, but it doesn't. It is a real life fact that people who are in a worse condition but better mental state have a better chance to survive.

[byne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Anderson's death only influences the breath scene. Your argument would only be valid if it would also chance something else, but it doesn't. It is a real life fact that people who are in a worse condition but better mental state have a better chance to survive.

You remember that one guy who survived being at ground zero in Nagasaki because he had a healthy mental state?

Me neither.

[CoolioThane]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Skillz. it does kinda make sense. in that way all your decisions would matter. the major problem i have with the equation is the whole ems thing tho. ems - as it is doesnt make any sense at all. it's just numbers, and the actual assets values dont make any sense.

Speculations eh?

The best EMS weirdness is still the way Anderson dies. If he was killed by TIM with Shepard not being able to have a last speech to Anderson, then magically High EMS Destroy requires 1000 EMS more (afaik).
Anderson however, dies regardless and has no real influence on the battle or the functionality of the Crucible, only on Shepard's resolve.
You could interpret that Shepard has a stronger will to live, even in a literal POV. But if the line between physical assets (fleets, soldiers, technology...) and assets that strengthen Shepard's resolve (and these heavily outnumbering the physical assests in proportion) blurs, we assume that Shepard's mental state has indeed influence on the endings. Going down this path usually ends in some sort of non-literal ending (such as IT).

Anderson's death only influences the breath scene. Your argument would only be valid if it would also chance something else, but it doesn't. It is a real life fact that people who are in a worse condition but better mental state have a better chance to survive.

If we save Anderson, our mind is healthier so can resist the indoctrination more. It doesn't matter if Anderson lives and we pick control/synthesis as we are indoctrinated.

[masster blaster]

OMG OMG OMG OMG.

End of the first matrix.

Neo dies.
Trinity want's Neo to come back to live. Her love for Neo brings him back.
Neo is the one.

Now Destroy: Shepard dies.
Your ems, and war assets help Shepard stay alive, and your LI/ crew want Shepard to come back to them
Shepard wakes up/ is the real Catalyst.

[masster blaster]

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Skillz. it does kinda make sense. in that way all your decisions would matter. the major problem i have with the equation is the whole ems thing tho. ems - as it is doesnt make any sense at all. it's just numbers, and the actual assets values dont make any sense.

Speculations eh?

The best EMS weirdness is still the way Anderson dies. If he was killed by TIM with Shepard not being able to have a last speech to Anderson, then magically High EMS Destroy requires 1000 EMS more (afaik).
Anderson however, dies regardless and has no real influence on the battle or the functionality of the Crucible, only on Shepard's resolve.
You could interpret that Shepard has a stronger will to live, even in a literal POV. But if the line between physical assets (fleets, soldiers, technology...) and assets that strengthen Shepard's resolve (and these heavily outnumbering the physical assests in proportion) blurs, we assume that Shepard's mental state has indeed influence on the endings. Going down this path usually ends in some sort of non-literal ending (such as IT).

Anderson's death only influences the breath scene. Your argument would only be valid if it would also chance something else, but it doesn't. It is a real life fact that people who are in a worse condition but better mental state have a better chance to survive.

If we save Anderson, our mind is healthier so can resist the indoctrination more. It doesn't matter if Anderson lives and we pick control/synthesis as we are indoctrinated.

Anderson advocates Destroy. Should we not trust Anderson the one who has had our back since before ME1. If this is all happening in Shepard's mind, then maybe his/her non Indoctrinated part side ( Anderson) is telling Shepard what to pick.

[CoolioThane]

masster blaster wrote...

OMG OMG OMG OMG.

End of the first matrix.

Neo dies.
Trinity want's Neo to come back to live. Her love for Neo brings him back.
Neo is the one.

Now Destroy: Shepard dies.
Your ems, and war assets help Shepard stay alive, and your LI/ crew want Shepard to come back to them
Shepard wakes up/ is the real Catalyst.

That's what I was going for 

[TheProtheans]

masster blaster wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Think about it this way. Destroy is Shepard staying to to his/her primeary mission.

The primary mission of stopping the Reapers.

At all cost.

Refuse Shepard is not.

But destroy doesn't destroy the Reapers, you're lead to believe it does by the Reapers.
They let you think that you're destroying them, it is nothing more than an illusion to get you into a vulerable state where you think completed your mission and they can take advantage of you.


AS in refuse. Does it Destroy the Reapers no. Yes both of the endings don't Destroy the Reapers on the IT world, but Destroy is just more appeling.

It's like the Reapers respect Shepard. Hence why they let him/her pick Destroy. You also have to think about Harbinger is still around. If Shepard is not doing anything in Refuse, then Harbinger will kill Shepard. More over it's like Shepard is walking around in the Conduit area. What ending he/her picks is what's going to happen to her.

Harbinger is not around.


Um in the IT world yes he is.

Refuse: Reapers refuse Shepard/ and kill Shepard.
Destroy: Reapers Destroy Shepard, yet fail if you have high ems.
Control: Reapers gain control over Shepard.
Synthesis: Reapers synthesis Shepard.

An interesting but weird view on the ending.

That's what I lead to believe.

I feel like I answered your first two positions with my first two positions, or else we will repeat ourselves.
Moving on.

In the IT world, we don't actually know if he is around or not.
He could have went back up to fight, seems very likely.

[dorktainian]

masster blaster wrote...

OMG OMG OMG OMG.

End of the first matrix.

Neo dies.
Trinity want's Neo to come back to live. Her love for Neo brings him back.
Neo is the one.

Now Destroy: Shepard dies.
Your ems, and war assets help Shepard stay alive, and your LI/ crew want Shepard to come back to them
Shepard wakes up/ is the real Catalyst.

god i only watched this the other night on blu ray.  shame about the sequels (although the architect is mindblowing in the second movie, and i do like the defence of zion in the third)


and shepard is now the perfect bridge between organics and synthetics.    

[Restrider]

@ Coolio
Nice compilation. I'd like to add someone's (I think it was maybe otter?) idea that the Devs did not mean the end of the first "Matrix" movie, but the end of the actual first Matrix in the movie! This Matrix was perfect, a utopia, but was rejected by the humans (this is told by Agent Smith during the interrogation of Morpheus, I think).

[BansheeOwnage]

I'll respond to that when I get back CT. Promise

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Anderson's death only influences the breath scene. Your argument would only be valid if it would also chance something else, but it doesn't. It is a real life fact that people who are in a worse condition but better mental state have a better chance to survive.

You remember that one guy who survived being at ground zero in Nagasaki because he had a healthy mental state?

Me neither.

It's not ground zero, that is over her head.

[dorktainian]

Restrider wrote...

@ Coolio
Nice compilation. I'd like to add someone's (I think it was maybe otter?) idea that the Devs did not mean the end of the first "Matrix" movie, but the end of the actual first Matrix in the movie! This Matrix was perfect, a utopia, but was rejected by the humans (this is told by Agent Smith during the interrogation of Morpheus, I think).

 hey in the matrix they harvest organics..... 'shudders'   could shepard be about to be ejected into 'the real world'?

[BansheeOwnage]

dorktainian wrote...

Coolio.

If the decision chamber is the Indoctrination of Shepard and then afterwards he 'wakes up',

by picking destroy he might be sending out signals to synthetics that he is prepared to sacrifice them in order to achieve victory. this could end up with him forcing synthetics to side with the reapers.

I agree that of the 3 endings destroy would appear to be the best one - and thats kinda why i dont trust it. something aint right. it shouldnt be that easy.

That's because it isn't that easy. You don't kill them yet in IT.

[MegumiAzusa]

Restrider wrote...

@ Coolio
Nice compilation. I'd like to add someone's (I think it was maybe otter?) idea that the Devs did not mean the end of the first "Matrix" movie, but the end of the actual first Matrix in the movie! This Matrix was perfect, a utopia, but was rejected by the humans (this is told by Agent Smith during the interrogation of Morpheus, I think).

That was actually me in the first thread.

[Hrothdane]

Restrider wrote...

@ Coolio
Nice compilation. I'd like to add someone's (I think it was maybe otter?) idea that the Devs did not mean the end of the first "Matrix" movie, but the end of the actual first Matrix in the movie! This Matrix was perfect, a utopia, but was rejected by the humans (this is told by Agent Smith during the interrogation of Morpheus, I think).

I never thought of that. That actually brings an interesting perspective.

[byne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Anderson's death only influences the breath scene. Your argument would only be valid if it would also chance something else, but it doesn't. It is a real life fact that people who are in a worse condition but better mental state have a better chance to survive.

You remember that one guy who survived being at ground zero in Nagasaki because he had a healthy mental state?

Me neither.

It's not ground zero, that is over her head.

Do you think the nuke at Nagasaki exploded when it hit the ground? It was also over their heads.

[draconian139]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Coolio.

If the decision chamber is the Indoctrination of Shepard and then afterwards he 'wakes up',

by picking destroy he might be sending out signals to synthetics that he is prepared to sacrifice them in order to achieve victory. this could end up with him forcing synthetics to side with the reapers.

I agree that of the 3 endings destroy would appear to be the best one - and thats kinda why i dont trust it. something aint right. it shouldnt be that easy.

That's because it isn't that easy. You don't kill them yet in IT.

The decision itself is extremely easy to make, depending on circumstances of your Shepard, if you take them at face value though.

[CoolioThane]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

@ Coolio
Nice compilation. I'd like to add someone's (I think it was maybe otter?) idea that the Devs did not mean the end of the first "Matrix" movie, but the end of the actual first Matrix in the movie! This Matrix was perfect, a utopia, but was rejected by the humans (this is told by Agent Smith during the interrogation of Morpheus, I think).

That was actually me in the first thread.

And what happened to the megumi that would contribute to a discussion and not be completely confrontational to anny point made?

[dorktainian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Coolio.

If the decision chamber is the Indoctrination of Shepard and then afterwards he 'wakes up',

by picking destroy he might be sending out signals to synthetics that he is prepared to sacrifice them in order to achieve victory. this could end up with him forcing synthetics to side with the reapers.

I agree that of the 3 endings destroy would appear to be the best one - and thats kinda why i dont trust it. something aint right. it shouldnt be that easy.

That's because it isn't that easy. You don't kill them yet in IT.

 oops.