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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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CoolioThane wrote...

Raccoon could you stop posting random pictures please?


Dont give ****posters attention.

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So any new interesting pieces of speculation to cover? I can't think of anything right now.

#78153
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@ct
I made the same mistake as you. He'll stop eventually..paying attention to him just encourages him topot more. That's how it is with little children.

#78154
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Norlond wrote...

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How do they feel? Wow. I mean, obviously they were thinking about that, but this is the part I simply don't understand, unless IT. Where were their testers - the people who told them how they felt? You know, in QA? How could this get past QA? Wait, aren't they having a conference about the game's QA in March? Just after the anniversary. Speculations...

Well, I think it's pretty obvious that if literal, this is beyond stupid. They didn't anticipate how people would feel at all. Especially considering the Brave New World reference. I've read the book, and it's clear it's a dystopia. How could writers of all people miss that? Is it even possible? That's why I think it must be IT -
Because it's too stupid to happen otherwise. Posted Image


Truly a post worthy to be THIS'd!


Good thing we have this GDC conference coming up in March ;)

edit: second top today, unfortunately no monocle pic this time :?

YOU HAVE FAILED, I WILL FIND ANOTHER WAY :whistle:

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Repost! For great justice!

What is IT’s best piece of evidence?

The utter improbability that Bioware would write such an awesome, deep game with such great lore and characters, then apparently forget all of those characters, break the lore, and release a generally unsatisfying end the their awesome trilogy. The end of ME3 is arguably the most important part of the series. But then, after that, release more awesomely written DLC. How could they be awesome, screw up very badly, then be awesome again? Doesn't make any sense! So my biggest piece of IT evidence is BW screwing up that badly, because it simply makes less sense than the endings!

Basically if the literal endings are true (regardless of breaking themes and lore) it means Shepard and all of Shepard's friends and allies are just stubborn idiots. They should have listened to the antagonists (Saren, TIM, Reapers) the whole time. Instead they're just soldiers only able to look at the world down the barrel of a gun. That would not only make no sense at all from a writing perspective, but it would be totally, totally lame.

I also want someone to ask why the apparent moral of the story was something like this:
“The villains were right all along; the hero and associates were just too stubborn to realize it. Also, free will sucks, and gets everyone killed. Better to force something on everything in the galaxy."

Here's how I see it: Whether intentionally or not, BW has in fact indoctrinated much of the playerbase. The fun thing about that is you can't really argue it, because said portion of the playerbase aligned themselves with the reapers willingly. If BW didn't intend this, they indoctrinated themselves, much like what the reapers may have done.

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byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Raccoon could you stop posting random pictures please?


Dont give ****posters attention.


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...........................Okay.

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401 Kill wrote...

So any new interesting pieces of speculation to cover? I can't think of anything right now.

When in doubt, go to my sig and repost awesome posts! Like I just did. Though I didn't look very hard. That's the first post. Posted Image

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masster blaster wrote...


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Where did Shepard get that Cain? Theres no Cain on that mission.

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Was about to ask the same thing

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Okay....
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Edit: btw, note how pissed Shepard is at Liara in LotSB.

Modifié par demersel, 04 janvier 2013 - 01:21 .


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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...


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Where did Shepard get that Cain? Theres no Cain on that mission.


Not a clue. I just found it.

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Skillz1986 wrote...

Was about to ask the same thing

Me too.  You can mod for heavy weapons. It's freaking hard though! I've tried.

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demersel wrote...

Okay....
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Edit: btw, note how pissed Shepard is at Liara in LotSB.



Unacceptable!
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

demersel wrote...

Okay....
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Edit: btw, note how pissed Shepard is at Liara in LotSB.



Unacceptable!
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Accept this.

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Modifié par masster blaster, 04 janvier 2013 - 01:27 .


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MB I don't understand why you keep posting the faceless Shepard. How does that act like an emoticon? Anyway, which mission is that again? Koris?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...
I also want someone to ask why the apparent moral of the story was something like this:
“The villains were right all along; the hero and associates were just too stubborn to realize it. Also, free will sucks, and gets everyone killed. Better to force something on everything in the galaxy."

This. Right here.

What would the point of the entire trilogy be? You have had one goal: Stop the Reaper. Not just the harvest- that is not enough- you must eliminate every single Reaper.

I guess I was wrong to stop Saren in ME 1, because he was only doing the right thing.

I guess I should've not killed TIM, but instead let him ascend up the elavator, so that he may control the Reapers.

I guess my Anderson wasn't the mentor, he was just a bumbling idiot who knew nothing in the end.

Incorrect, you never trust an enemy that has not only eliminated thousands of cycles, but uses a tool of indoctrination as its most dangerous weapon. If the writers couldn't have even foreseen Shepards indoctrination... Wait a minute they did, and tried to implement a sequence of losing control over Shepard... And it just so happens that the indoctrination of Shepard conveniently fits right in with the broken and "bad writing" elements of the literal interpretation. 

Yeah, of not IT (or something similar) Bioware has failed massively and doomed the ME series.

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I think it's the bomb on tuchanka

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MB I don't understand why you keep posting the faceless Shepard. How does that act like an emoticon? Anyway, which mission is that again? Koris?


Not a clue. I like posting faceless Shepard because he has no emotion. Free of all weaknesses.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MB I don't understand why you keep posting the faceless Shepard. How does that act like an emoticon? Anyway, which mission is that again? Koris?


You mean with Shep sitting in the dark? Pretty sure thats after the primarch's son dies, as thats the only time I can recall when the shuttle is ever that dark.

Which is weird since you're on Tuchanka during the day. But whatever.

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masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MB I don't understand why you keep posting the faceless Shepard. How does that act like an emoticon? Anyway, which mission is that again? Koris?


Not a clue. I like posting faceless Shepard because he has no emotion. Free of all weaknesses.


So you play MaleShep and think Shepard is best when he shows no emotion?

Why am I not surprised. :whistle:

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As i said...bomb on tuchanka ;)

#78172
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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MB I don't understand why you keep posting the faceless Shepard. How does that act like an emoticon? Anyway, which mission is that again? Koris?


Not a clue. I like posting faceless Shepard because he has no emotion. Free of all weaknesses.


So you play MaleShep and think Shepard is best when he shows no emotion?

Why am I not surprised. :whistle:


Here we go again.<_<

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
MB I don't understand why you keep posting the faceless Shepard. How does that act like an emoticon? Anyway, which mission is that again? Koris?


Not a clue. I like posting faceless Shepard because he has no emotion. Free of all weaknesses.


So you play MaleShep and think Shepard is best when he shows no emotion?

Why am I not surprised. :whistle:

Here we go again...

It is only personal preference how you like your Shepard to be. I personally think that Male Shepard is amazing.

#78174
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@401 and masster

It was just a joke. Calm down.

MaleShep is actually sort of ok in ME3.

Weird post to get top.

Modifié par byne, 04 janvier 2013 - 01:36 .


#78175
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The Bomb. Thank you. And Byne, why is it dark? It's symbolism :P On one of its most basic levels.